Roaming partner in San Bernardino County, California?

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct
2004 20:30:29 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct
>> 2004 15:53:13 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004
>> >> 06:36:05 GMT, "Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Steve.....Don't forget that Verizon has two MAJOR customers it serves on
>> >> >Analog......The state of California Highway Call-Boxes and "On-Star"
>> >> >It's no wonder why their analog system is still serving all those "off the
>> >> >beaten path" areas....and probably will for sometime.
>> >>
>> >> From the Onstar FAQ on Technology & Hardware:
>> >>
>> >> In November 2002, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
>> >> ruled that wireless carriers will no longer be required to support
>> >> the analog wireless network as of early 2008. Additionally, wireless
>> >> carriers in Canada have elected to follow suit and have also begun
>> >> the shift from analog to digital technology. As a result, beginning
>> >> January 1, 2008, OnStar service will only be available through
>> >> dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment.
>> >
>> >This affects Sobol's service TODAY how?
>>
>> My point was that those "two MAJOR customers" have no bearing on the
>> availability of AMPS (analog) service.
>
>Today or in 2008 ?

At any time.

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In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct
> 2004 20:30:29 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct
> >> 2004 15:53:13 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct
> >> >> 2004
> >> >> 06:36:05 GMT, "Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik" <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Steve.....Don't forget that Verizon has two MAJOR customers it serves
> >> >> >on
> >> >> >Analog......The state of California Highway Call-Boxes and "On-Star"
> >> >> >It's no wonder why their analog system is still serving all those "off
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >beaten path" areas....and probably will for sometime.
> >> >>
> >> >> From the Onstar FAQ on Technology & Hardware:
> >> >>
> >> >> In November 2002, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
> >> >> ruled that wireless carriers will no longer be required to support
> >> >> the analog wireless network as of early 2008. Additionally, wireless
> >> >> carriers in Canada have elected to follow suit and have also begun
> >> >> the shift from analog to digital technology. As a result, beginning
> >> >> January 1, 2008, OnStar service will only be available through
> >> >> dual-mode (analog/digital) equipment.
> >> >
> >> >This affects Sobol's service TODAY how?
> >>
> >> My point was that those "two MAJOR customers" have no bearing on the
> >> availability of AMPS (analog) service.
> >
> >Today or in 2008 ?
>
> At any time.

So you didnt answer the question then. How does it affect it now?

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 24 Oct
2004 20:47:24 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>> At any time.
>
>So you didnt answer the question then. ...

Actually I did.

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In <S2Oed.2412$8W6.1135@trnddc05> on Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:25:06 GMT, "Scott
Nelson - Wash DC" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"CharlesH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

>> If Cingular in CA is only 1900MHz, then they cannot provide analog, since
>> there is no analog on the PCS band. Only digital of one flavor or another.
>> When they merge with AT&T Wireless, then the combined company will have
>> 850MHz (cellular band) service.
>
>-->AT&T has the "A" band spectrum for most of So Cal, which Cingular now
>has.

Cingular should have soon, but not yet.

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In article <[email protected]>, Dr.
Rastis Fafoofnik <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve.....Don't forget that Verizon has two MAJOR customers it serves on
> Analog......The state of California Highway Call-Boxes and "On-Star"
> It's no wonder why their analog system is still serving all those "off the
> beaten path" areas....and probably will for sometime.


So "On-Star" works in digital mode in Florida, since Verizon does not
have any anlog in Florida, its all 1900 Mhz PCS there??? And if one has
a car that only has analog On-Star, does it not work in Florida at
all??? Curious...

Jack Zwick wrote:

> This affects Sobol's service TODAY how?

Doesn't at all today, since my phone is set to Sprint-only. I'm speculating
on whether I could benefit from roaming in the particular section of
Victorville where Sprint doesn't have a tower.

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zeno wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Dr.
> Rastis Fafoofnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Steve.....Don't forget that Verizon has two MAJOR customers it serves on
>>Analog......The state of California Highway Call-Boxes and "On-Star"
>>It's no wonder why their analog system is still serving all those "off the
>>beaten path" areas....and probably will for sometime.
>
>
>
> So "On-Star" works in digital mode in Florida, since Verizon does not
> have any anlog in Florida, its all 1900 Mhz PCS there??? And if one has
> a car that only has analog On-Star, does it not work in Florida at
> all??? Curious...

OnStar has agreements with lots of analog carriers, so in Florida they
probably work on some 800MHz carrier other than Verizon, such as ATTWS,
Alltel, or Cingular.

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Frank Harris in San Francisco with an A680

There are at least two carriers who have set up cell sites with no other use
than to serve roamers. Western Wireless provides CDMA digital to all their
own new customers. They also maintain TDMA for old customers and TDMA
roamers. Recently they added GSM service at both 1900 MHz and 850 MHz.
Also, they are now adding CDMA at 1900 MHz for Sprint PCS roaming customers
with single-band phones.

Commnet Wireless does not have any of their own customers. They have set up
TDMA, GSM and analog sites strictly to serve roamers, and are still
expanding.

"JC Dill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I don't think there's much of a business case for putting up towers
> just to serve roaming customers. Roaming business only makes sense
> when the towers first serve your own customers and then *also* serve
> roaming customers for an additional fee.

Zeno,
On-Star has contracts with many carriers across the country, and that
includes both cellular carriers in Florida, Alltel, AT&T, Cingular, and
others.

On-Star customers have the advantage of an external vehicle antenna, and
those who still have analog (all pre-2004), have higher-power units. So
they have a MUCH better chance of making contact in analog.

>So "On-Star" works in digital mode in Florida, since Verizon does not
>have any anlog in Florida, its all 1900 Mhz PCS there??? And if one has
>a car that only has analog On-Star, does it not work in Florida at
>all???