NEWS: Voicemail message is getting lost

In message <uWAkd.50798$EZ.43547@okepread07> "IMHO" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Taking notes on a laptop is one thing.
>To text message others in the meeting and outside the meeting about other
>matters is something else.

How is a text message more disruptive then typing notes?

>Why go to the meeting if you are going to text message about other matters.

Mandatory meeting? The individual has a brain that can handle more then
one input at a time?

In my call center days I could monitor a call on my headset, listen to
one or two reps beside me, answer messages from several reps at once all
while answering customer email.

I was typing almost constantly, massager first priority, email second.
I can prove I was listening to at least two calls at once (one on the
headset, the other the nearest people to me) because I'd write up
reports on what they ****ed up on the call after the fact.



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In <9DCkd.51144$EZ.23490@okepread07> on Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:19:00 -0600,
"IMHO" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Read what we're writing with a bit more of an open mind -- while it could
>> be
>> abused, with discretion it really can make sense.
>
>Like the Nextel commercials - having a meeting, everyone in the same room,
>using direct connect.
>
>The meetings I go to have a specific purpose and those who attend are there
>to solve problems and make decisions. Matters needing prompt attention
>are - in my opinion - Medical, Fire, Chemical Spills, etc. Most other
>matters can wait until after the meeting when they can be given full
>attention. ...

That's not my experience, or that of many others. For example, I might send a
message to an assistant to "bring last month's report to the meeting ASAP."
Otherwise I would have to leave the meeting to get it, thus disrupting the
meeting and/or reducing my participation. Or it might become clear that the
meeting would run well over its allotted time, so I might send a message that
I "can't get together at 11am is planned -- how about this afternoon?" The
list of valid and useful purposes goes on and on.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004
08:26:45 GMT, "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"IMHO" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:uWAkd.50798$EZ.43547@okepread07...
>> Taking notes on a laptop is one thing.
>> To text message others in the meeting and outside the meeting about other
>> matters is something else.
>> Why go to the meeting if you are going to text message about other matters.
>
>If nothing else it would tell your fellow attendees that you are bored
>with them and you think that the meeting is a waste of time.
>That's probably not a good impression to leave with your colleagues
>and superiors.

Leaving the meeting would give a better impression? Or making a voice call
from the meeting room? Don't think so.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004
08:20:21 GMT, "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 10 Nov 2004
>> 22:27:59 GMT, "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but if I were a classroom instructor or
>>>lecturer of a small group, I'd be offended if attendees started
>>>typing away on cell phones while I was talking. It denotes
>>>disrespect for the speaker.
>>
>> How is that different from taking notes on paper or on a laptop computer?
>
>Simple. A student writing in a notebook is generally presumed to be taking
>lecture notes. A student tapping on cellphone keys is presumed to be
>engaged in something unrelated to anything the teacher/lecturer is saying.

The tricky bit there is "presumed" -- presumptions can and do vary.

>There are exceptions.

A great many of them -- see my other posts.

>I understand that text messaging during meetings is
>accepted nowadays in some business circles.

Indeed -- because it tends to be less disruptive and more effective than the
available alternatives.

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[email protected] wrote:

> I hate to listen voicemails
> rrrrrrrrr
> prefer SMSes
>
> Stan
If it's a sexy female voice saying she wants me really bad, I'm for voice
but in reality since I never have such good fortune, I sms.
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"Jacob Suter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Reasons SMS blows Voicemail away (and why I've replaced many of my voice
> conversations with SMS/Email):
>{..snip..}
> #7 - You can SMS while on a voice call (unless you've got a craporola
> v120e and it gets so damned slow it just *can't*)
>

How the heck can you possibly do that?! Even if the phone supports the
feature, I can't really type on the key pad while holding the phone to my
head to talk to somebody. I wouldn't even be able to concentrate on what I'm
saying enough to handle this. You're a better juggler than me.

-Jeff

Jeff P burbled to the world:
> "Jacob Suter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Reasons SMS blows Voicemail away (and why I've replaced many of my
>> voice conversations with SMS/Email):
>> {..snip..}
>> #7 - You can SMS while on a voice call (unless you've got a craporola
>> v120e and it gets so damned slow it just *can't*)
>>
>
> How the heck can you possibly do that?! Even if the phone supports the
> feature, I can't really type on the key pad while holding the phone
> to my head to talk to somebody. I wouldn't even be able to
> concentrate on what I'm saying enough to handle this. You're a better
> juggler than me.

Or he's using a headset.

Chris



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In message <[email protected]> "Jeff P"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Jacob Suter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Reasons SMS blows Voicemail away (and why I've replaced many of my voice
>> conversations with SMS/Email):
>>{..snip..}
>> #7 - You can SMS while on a voice call (unless you've got a craporola
>> v120e and it gets so damned slow it just *can't*)
>
>How the heck can you possibly do that?! Even if the phone supports the
>feature, I can't really type on the key pad while holding the phone to my
>head to talk to somebody.

That's why god invented headsets.

>I wouldn't even be able to concentrate on what I'm
>saying enough to handle this. You're a better juggler than me.

Some of us can type and talk at the same time. I picked up the skill
when I was working in a call center, but it's not that hard for anybody
to learn.


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Jeff P wrote:
> "Jacob Suter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Reasons SMS blows Voicemail away (and why I've replaced many of my voice
>>conversations with SMS/Email):
>>{..snip..}
>>#7 - You can SMS while on a voice call (unless you've got a craporola
>>v120e and it gets so damned slow it just *can't*)
>>
>
>
> How the heck can you possibly do that?!

Using a handsfree kit. I've done it.



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You'll like this: Verizon has been matter of fact that voicemail messages
do not get lost, and they do not get delayed. Just last week, we had 10
different people call in to report delayed messages; and each went to tech
support (tier 2) and each referenced in addition to their own, a "common"
phone number that was also having problems. As person 1-10 called in, one
after another, cs and then to level 2, each referred to their own number and
"common" phone number; Each tech said there had been NO reports of delayed
messages. Obviously there are no problems with voicemail? Go figure.
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"DevilsPGD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In message <[email protected]> "Jeff P"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jacob Suter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Reasons SMS blows Voicemail away (and why I've replaced many of my voice
>>> conversations with SMS/Email):
>>>{..snip..}
>>> #7 - You can SMS while on a voice call (unless you've got a craporola
>>> v120e and it gets so damned slow it just *can't*)
>>
>>How the heck can you possibly do that?! Even if the phone supports the
>>feature, I can't really type on the key pad while holding the phone to my
>>head to talk to somebody.
>
> That's why god invented headsets.
>
>>I wouldn't even be able to concentrate on what I'm
>>saying enough to handle this. You're a better juggler than me.
>
> Some of us can type and talk at the same time. I picked up the skill
> when I was working in a call center, but it's not that hard for anybody
> to learn.
>
>
> --
> If stupidity persists, consult your psychiatrist.
>

say, how do you type "handsfree"?


"Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jeff P wrote:
> > "Jacob Suter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>Reasons SMS blows Voicemail away (and why I've replaced many of my voice
> >>conversations with SMS/Email):
> >>{..snip..}
> >>#7 - You can SMS while on a voice call (unless you've got a craporola
> >>v120e and it gets so damned slow it just *can't*)
> >>
> >
> >
> > How the heck can you possibly do that?!
>
> Using a handsfree kit. I've done it.
>
>
>
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