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  1. #16
    John Richards
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    > "Corporate greed"? The ENTIRE purpose of a
    > corporation is to return a profit for the shareholders! That's the way it
    > is meant to be!


    But in fact what we're seeing is that the compensation paid to CEOs
    is growing by leaps and bounds, while stockholder returns and
    employee salaries have remained stagnant in terms of real dollars.

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  2. #17
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    Rod Golding wrote:
    > I can not believe my eyes. You people are talking about a couple of cell
    > towers and how it will "improve your coverage in your small little corner of
    > your world". What about the thousands of people that are going to lose there
    > jobs on both the Sprint and Nextel side.


    Have layoffs been announced yet? No, they haven't. And quite frankly,
    those jobs are just as much at risk if Sprint and Nextel DIDN'T merge.
    These two companies have to expand one way or another, or lose out, and
    that puts jobs in danger no matter hwo you slice it.

    I was an opponent of the merger, but after seeing the presentation, I'm
    cautiously neutral to it. And I'm still certain that if people do get
    laid off, those who are truly worth their salt will be able to find jobs
    with competitors. The cell networks in the US still have a long way to
    go to build out and upgrade.


    > And on top of it Sprint will be
    > able to completely screw up Nextel as they have their own company and look
    > what they have to do, buy a profitable company in order to make their
    > company look good.


    Actually, I see it this way: Nextel was on borrowed time with dead end
    technology and no clear upgrade path. A potentially chaotic spectrum
    swap was near. The easy way to avoid getting caught under such traps is
    to BE bought out by another company to help absorb the heavy costs
    ahead. If anything, Nextel is using Sprint as a life raft to transition
    to CDMA, which is why I had my misgivings about this merger.

    Remember, it takes two to tango, and Nextel could have very easily said
    "we're not for sale."

    > It is indeed a sad day in the world of cellular and once
    > again corporate greed prevails.


    Oh, boo hoo.

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  3. #18
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    Rod Golding wrote:
    > And how much is enough? 20%, 30%, 40%? More?



    20, 30, 40% of what? Your waning IQ?

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  4. #19
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    J A Haynes wrote:
    > I was all excited about the arrangement until I found out that Sprint bought
    > Nextel and not the other way around. I hear terrible things about Sprint,
    > especially in the arena of billing and customer service. So, now I'm really
    > worried.


    That's funny, I've EXPERIENCED (not just heard) very bad things while I
    had service with Nextel, and EXPERIENCED (not just heard) far better
    service on Sprint.

    At least Sprint credits payments when they receive them, rather than
    putting them in a "lockbox" for three weeks as Nextel did, virtually
    ensuring that accounts are frequently running a balance and making it
    infinitely more difficult to track down how much you *really* owe them.



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  5. #20
    Hot Rod
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    Please, use your head...you must be from the east coast


    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Rod Golding wrote:
    >> And how much is enough? 20%, 30%, 40%? More?

    >
    >
    > 20, 30, 40% of what? Your waning IQ?
    >
    > --
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    >






  6. #21
    Joseph
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:52:42 GMT, "Rod Golding"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >And also supply jobs to the community which in turn spends money on cell
    >plans, all a big circle.


    You don't have a very good grasp of reality do you?

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  7. #22
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    John R. Copeland wrote:
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>.... and they have a crappy reputation to
    >>overcome because they lost a lot of customers back a couple years ago. But
    >>they've made huge improvements in many areas.
    >>
    >>--
    >>Steven J. Sobol

    >
    >
    > You may recall that many of those lost customers were terminated by Sprint.


    Yes, this is true too.

    > They were deadbeats signed on by the failed policies of the previous
    > administration, policies of marketing to people with poor credit histories.
    > Gary Forsee came on board in late 2002, and has improved Sprint greatly.


    I agree. Len Lauer had made some strides to fix things before that, though.



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  8. #23
    Bill Crocker
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    As a current Nextel subscriber, at first glance I wasn't too happy with
    this. Today, I switched the wife, and myself, over to Sprint, got two new
    (free) phones, and we're saving $55.00/month! Sometimes change can be a
    good!

    Bill Crocker


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  9. #24
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge


    "Rod Golding" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I can not believe my eyes. You people are talking about a couple of cell
    > towers and how it will "improve your coverage in your small little corner

    of
    > your world". What about the thousands of people that are going to lose

    there
    > jobs on both the Sprint and Nextel side. And on top of it Sprint will be
    > able to completely screw up Nextel as they have their own company and look
    > what they have to do, buy a profitable company in order to make their
    > company look good. It is indeed a sad day in the world of cellular and

    once
    > again corporate greed prevails.
    >


    You could probably use a little information before spouting off like that.
    If you had taken the time to research, you would have noticed that of the 8
    executive positions named so far, 3 are from Sprint and 5 from Nextel. If
    you had read a little more, you would see that Sprint stockholders only hold
    51% of the new company, and this was done for tax breaks on the spinoff of
    the landline division. Could it be that 2% of current Sprint stock is held
    in portfolios that also contain Nextel stock? If so, there is no advantage
    to either company. Maybe they do know what they are doing, and all of the
    Internet CEO wannabes are wrong. Although I have to admit that the noise
    about this is quite amusing.





  10. #25
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge


    "J A Haynes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I was all excited about the arrangement until I found out that Sprint

    bought
    > Nextel and not the other way around. I hear terrible things about Sprint,
    > especially in the arena of billing and customer service. So, now I'm

    really
    > worried.
    >


    Why worry? Both companies have strengths, and they happen to be in
    different areas. Sprint has the edge in sales, advertising, marketing and
    engineering, and Nextel in customer service, billing, employee satisfaction
    and cost management. If they play off the strengths of each company, they
    come out much stronger than anyone else in the industry and become much more
    attractive to customers. The doomsayers here are convinced that this will
    never happen, but it only makes sense.





  11. #26
    Chris Cowles
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    Not to disagree with your intent, but your statement has not been proved to
    my knowledge. Workers can be incredibly unhappy in their jobs working for
    jerk supervisors but still productive and efficient. That, among other
    things, is what determines whether or not a business is successful, not
    whether the employees are actually happy.
    --
    Chris Cowles,
    Gainesville, FL


    "Central" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]...
    > ...It just so happens to be that ... happy employees are key to a long
    > term successful business....






  12. #27
    Chris Cowles
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    Whether sprint bought nextel or nextel bought sprint is all a matter of
    optimizing the accounting for the surviving organization. What matters is
    who's the surviving management.

    "J A Haynes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I was all excited about the arrangement until I found out that Sprint
    >bought Nextel and not the other way around. I hear terrible things about
    >Sprint, especially in the arena of billing and customer service. So, now
    >I'm really worried.






  13. #28
    Central
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:25:31 -0500, Chris Cowles wrote:

    > Not to disagree with your intent, but your statement has not been proved to
    > my knowledge. Workers can be incredibly unhappy in their jobs working for
    > jerk supervisors but still productive and efficient. That, among other
    > things, is what determines whether or not a business is successful, not
    > whether the employees are actually happy.


    Keep in mind I listed only two variables in an otherwise bigger picture of
    business. The poster above seemed to have some false ideals about
    corporations requiring humanity and caring traits. It would be nice but
    nothing they do will remove the fact that they are trying to make a
    profit. Otherwise they will be a non-profit organization and even then
    they shave a little off for their operating expenses.

    As far as the worker's peace of mind I believe your statement does show
    what I said even tho it doesn't reflect that the business operators were
    the cause of it. That statement being that your workforce works optimally
    when they are in good spirits otherwise they will burn out requiring
    replacements to be trained, and then brought up to speed of the business.
    In a large corporation can you not say that a "jerk" supervisor may have
    more of an affect on the business by degrading his direct, or in-direct
    workforce then the one or two employees that do not let the supervisor get
    to them? There are a lot of variables that make it hard to form one rule
    that can always be applied. After all, you can have good customers and
    a good workforce but just have no future for your product/service.





  14. #29
    Central
    Guest

    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:25:31 -0500, Chris Cowles wrote:

    > Not to disagree with your intent, but your statement has not been proved to
    > my knowledge. Workers can be incredibly unhappy in their jobs working for
    > jerk supervisors but still productive and efficient. That, among other
    > things, is what determines whether or not a business is successful, not
    > whether the employees are actually happy.


    Keep in mind I listed only two variables in an otherwise bigger picture of
    business. The poster above seemed to have some false ideals about
    corporations requiring humanity and caring traits. It would be nice but
    nothing they do will remove the fact that they are trying to make a
    profit. Otherwise they will be a non-profit organization and even then
    they shave a little off for their operating expenses.

    As far as the worker's peace of mind I believe your statement does show
    what I said even tho it doesn't reflect that the business operators were
    the cause of it. That statement being that your workforce works optimally
    when they are in good spirits otherwise they will burn out requiring
    replacements to be trained, and then brought up to speed of the business.
    In a large corporation can you not say that a "jerk" supervisor may have
    more of an affect on the business by degrading his direct, or in-direct
    workforce then the one or two employees that do not let the supervisor get
    to them? There are a lot of variables that make it hard to form one rule
    that can always be applied. After all, you can have good customers and
    a good workforce but just have no future for your product/service.





  15. #30
    Bill Crocker
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    Re: Sprint, Nextel agree to merge

    It didn't go well at all with Sprint. I'm back to Nextel.

    Bill Crocker


    "Bill Crocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > As a current Nextel subscriber, at first glance I wasn't too happy with
    > this. Today, I switched the wife, and myself, over to Sprint, got two new
    > (free) phones, and we're saving $55.00/month! Sometimes change can be a
    > good!
    >
    > Bill Crocker
    >
    >
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> From NEWS.COM:
    >>
    >> http://myturl.com/001pR
    >>
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    >> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) /
    >> [email protected]
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    >> Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three
    >> kids.

    >
    >






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