SprintPCS still getting bashed?

Mij Adyaw wrote:
> How could it use Cingular? I thought that Cingular is GSM and that SprintPCS
> is CDMA and therefore the phones are incompatible. Please elaborate. Do you
> have a special phone that supports GSM and CDMA?

Cingular also runs legacy TDMA/AMPS networks.

I do see Sprint switching to USCellular, Verizon and Alltel as roaming partners
as more and more analog sites stop being updated, though.

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"Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith wrote:
> > "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > <snipped>
> >
> >>Hardly. Verizon is the best network bar none -- when Sprint roams, it
> >
> > goes
> >
> >>to Verizon.
> >
> >
> > Oh? Is that why Verizon changed their PRLs in the MD, WV & VA regions on
the
> > American Plan, so that their customers wouldn't be able call / roam on
> > SPCS's system. Verizon users were using SPCS, instead of Verizon's
signal as
> > SPCS offered a far stronger signal than Verizon did and Verizon was
paying
> > SPCS a ton of loot in roaming fees.
>
> Bob, he was talking about Sprint phones roaming on Verizon, not the other
way
> around.
>
> > As for who you get connected to when SPCS customers roams, it could be
> > Verizon, or any number of other providers, depending on the roaming
> > agreement set up for that specific area.

Oh I know that Steve. I was addressing his comments about Verizon being the
best "bar none". Verizon is not the best. It has it's limitations (as I
cited above), like all the other wireless providers ...

Bob

Does SprintPCS roam on Verizon DIGITAL in areas where there is no SprintPCS
service and there is Verizon digital service? It seems to me that Sprint
should offer roaming agreements with DIGITAL providers and that analog
roaming should be offered as a last resort when there is no available
digital CDMA signal.

-mij


"Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>> How could it use Cingular? I thought that Cingular is GSM and that
>> SprintPCS is CDMA and therefore the phones are incompatible. Please
>> elaborate. Do you have a special phone that supports GSM and CDMA?
>
> Cingular also runs legacy TDMA/AMPS networks.
>
> I do see Sprint switching to USCellular, Verizon and Alltel as roaming
> partners as more and more analog sites stop being updated, though.
>
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>
> "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
> Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
> amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)

Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Does SprintPCS roam on Verizon DIGITAL in areas where there is no SprintPCS
> service and there is Verizon digital service? It seems to me that Sprint
> should offer roaming agreements with DIGITAL providers and that analog
> roaming should be offered as a last resort when there is no available
> digital CDMA signal.

Their roaming agreements have traditionally been analog. Many of them probably
still are.

There are older phones whose only network settings are "Sprint only", "Analog
roam" and "Automatic."


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"In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)

It also might depend on what the roaming carrier charges for digital
and analog roaming as which is put higher on the prl.

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> <snipped>
>
>> Hardly. Verizon is the best network bar none -- when Sprint roams, it
> goes
>> to Verizon.
>
> Oh? Is that why Verizon changed their PRLs in the MD, WV & VA regions on
> the
> American Plan

Nice major metropolitan areas you got there...when I move to rural Virginia
I might give a **** Bobby. lol

> I use to think that Verizon offered as good or a touch better signal than
> SPCS in the past, but no more. Friends in my area

Anecdotal crap, and most likely lies.

Checkmate.

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> Good one. I do remember when SprintPCS was allowing illegal
>> immigrants
>> to connect cell phones without an iota of real information, and no
> deposit.
>> Fortunately Verizon has always had a stricter credit check and
> verification
>> system.
>
> No they don't- they are obviously willing to put you on the network.

Non answer. As a former SprintPCS employee I can tell you that Sprint
encouraged, and actually gave employees tips and tricks on how to get
illegal immigrants onto the service, using phony SS numbers and the like.

Verizon has never stooped that low for customers, nor can they due to their
more strict credit checks. When I began working for Radio Shack customers
who required $500-$1000 deposits for Verizon would come back approved with
no deposit and at most a $125 ASL with Sprint.

Pathetic.
>
>
>>No wonder SprintPCS has so many low lives.
>
> Soon to be one less if you follow through on your promise.
>
>>
>> > Or maybe he did start reading about
>> > the degradation of service people are complaining about over at VZW.
>>
>> Hardly. Verizon is the best network bar none -- when Sprint roams, it
> goes
>> to Verizon.
>
> According to who? Verizon?

No, according to facts. Now shut up.

"Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >> Good one. I do remember when SprintPCS was allowing illegal
> >> immigrants
> >> to connect cell phones without an iota of real information, and no
> > deposit.
> >> Fortunately Verizon has always had a stricter credit check and
> > verification
> >> system.
> >
> > No they don't- they are obviously willing to put you on the network.
>
> Non answer. As a former SprintPCS employee I can tell you that Sprint
> encouraged, and actually gave employees tips and tricks on how to get
> illegal immigrants onto the service, using phony SS numbers and the like.

So let's get this straight- you, a self-professed Ivy League grad worked
front-line for Sprint? I think you just tripped yourself up in your lies,
moron.

>
> Verizon has never stooped that low for customers, nor can they due to
their
> more strict credit checks. When I began working for Radio Shack
customers
> who required $500-$1000 deposits for Verizon would come back approved with
> no deposit and at most a $125 ASL with Sprint.

And went from Sprint to Radio Shack? Wow- you must have flunked out of your
Ivy League school. Of course, the answer is much simpler than that- you
lied. It must suck to have such low self-esteem that you need to make false
claims about yourself.

>
> Pathetic.
> >
> >
> >>No wonder SprintPCS has so many low lives.
> >
> > Soon to be one less if you follow through on your promise.
> >
> >>
> >> > Or maybe he did start reading about
> >> > the degradation of service people are complaining about over at VZW.
> >>
> >> Hardly. Verizon is the best network bar none -- when Sprint roams, it
> > goes
> >> to Verizon.
> >
> > According to who? Verizon?
>
> No, according to facts. Now shut up.

What facts? You don't know what facts are- your habit of lying shows that.

"Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > <snipped>
> >
> >> Hardly. Verizon is the best network bar none -- when Sprint roams, it
> > goes
> >> to Verizon.
> >
> > Oh? Is that why Verizon changed their PRLs in the MD, WV & VA regions on
> > the
> > American Plan
>
> Nice major metropolitan areas you got there...when I move to rural
Virginia
> I might give a **** Bobby. lol

The point was ... that even though Verizon had a signal in those areas, all
the Verizon AP customers would go to channel B to roam on SPCS to make and
receive calls
>
> > I use to think that Verizon offered as good or a touch better signal
than
> > SPCS in the past, but no more. Friends in my area
>
> Anecdotal crap, and most likely lies.
>
> Checkmate.

Checkmate? Ah, so you don't quote my full statement. You are the one lying
by not providing the full quote. And oh ... by the way, why would I need to
lie? It doesn't affect yours truly as I don't have Verizon ...

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> As a former SprintPCS employee I can tell you that Sprint
> encouraged, and actually gave employees tips and tricks on how to get
> illegal immigrants onto the service, using phony SS numbers and the like.
>

That is a lie.

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is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+

Christopher F wrote:
>>No they don't- they are obviously willing to put you on the network.
>
>
> Non answer.

And you're a non-issue, so it evens out.


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As a former Sprint employee I can also say it is a lie - nothing even close
to the OP's claims ever happened.


"O/Siris" <rØbjvargas@comcâst.nêt> wrote in message
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> As a former SprintPCS employee I can tell you that Sprint
> encouraged, and actually gave employees tips and tricks on how to get
> illegal immigrants onto the service, using phony SS numbers and the like.
>

That is a lie.

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O/Siris
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A thing moderately good
is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Good one. I do remember when SprintPCS was allowing illegal
>> >> immigrants
>> >> to connect cell phones without an iota of real information, and no
>> > deposit.
>> >> Fortunately Verizon has always had a stricter credit check and
>> > verification
>> >> system.
>> >
>> > No they don't- they are obviously willing to put you on the network.
>>
>> Non answer. As a former SprintPCS employee I can tell you that Sprint
>> encouraged, and actually gave employees tips and tricks on how to get
>> illegal immigrants onto the service, using phony SS numbers and the like.
>
> So let's get this straight- you, a self-professed Ivy League grad worked
> front-line for Sprint? I think you just tripped yourself up in your lies,
> moron.

Yes, I also worked at a pharmacy, and church as a teenager.

You see Scotty, in high school and college menial jobs to gain work
experience and a resume is actually beneficial.

>
>>
>> Verizon has never stooped that low for customers, nor can they due to
> their
>> more strict credit checks. When I began working for Radio Shack
> customers
>> who required $500-$1000 deposits for Verizon would come back approved
>> with
>> no deposit and at most a $125 ASL with Sprint.
>
> And went from Sprint to Radio Shack?

Sprint for 6 months, Radio Shack for a year - all fun times, and learning
experiences.

What's interesting however is how you predictably ignored the point I was
making on Sprint, and instead tried to turn this into some idiotic rant on
my work experience in high school and college. Surely you don't believe
the readers of this newsgroup are as stupid as you are -- or do you?

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > "Christopher F" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > <snipped>
>> >
>> >> Hardly. Verizon is the best network bar none -- when Sprint roams,
>> >> it
>> > goes
>> >> to Verizon.
>> >
>> > Oh? Is that why Verizon changed their PRLs in the MD, WV & VA regions
>> > on
>> > the
>> > American Plan
>>
>> Nice major metropolitan areas you got there...when I move to rural
> Virginia
>> I might give a **** Bobby. lol
>
> The point was ...

You don't have one.


>>
>> > I use to think that Verizon offered as good or a touch better signal
> than
>> > SPCS in the past, but no more. Friends in my area
>>
>> Anecdotal crap, and most likely lies.
>>
>> Checkmate.
>
> Checkmate?

Yes checkmate. Anecdotal crap you pulled out of your rear end doesn't
hold watter.

> That is a lie.

And that's libel.