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  1. #1
    Bob Smith
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    Just came across this news ditty and thought that some of you folks might be
    interested ...

    http://tinyurl.com/8c8jt

    Bob ::Noticing that they have put a cap on the expense for personal accounts
    @ $90/mo.::





    See More: SPCS announces EV-DO release




  2. #2

    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:06:59 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >http://tinyurl.com/8c8jt
    >
    >Bob ::Noticing that they have put a cap on the expense for personal accounts
    >@ $90/mo.::


    Heh. Nice guys, huh? $90 a month!

    I think Verizon's EV-DO is pretty much a lot less than that. Not that
    there aren't other problems with them.

    I think all the cellular carriers are on drugs or something. We don't
    want this stuff, jammed down our throats this way. We want what we
    want. Not all these scams and schemes.





  3. #3
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    [email protected] wrote:

    >>Bob ::Noticing that they have put a cap on the expense for personal accounts
    >>@ $90/mo.::

    >
    > Heh. Nice guys, huh? $90 a month!
    >
    > I think Verizon's EV-DO is pretty much a lot less than that. Not that
    > there aren't other problems with them.


    Does Verizon do unlimited for individual/non-business accounts? (or for
    businesses, for that matter.)

    I mean, think of this. This essentially means you can use as much data as
    you want and not pay more than $90 if you're an individual or $80 if you're
    a business.

    I agree with some of the other stuff you've posted about Sprint, but I think
    you're off base here.

    I think what we really have to do is compare apples to apples. T-Mobile and
    Cingular have data plans, right? T-Mobile has a $30 wifi plan too, but
    that's not cellular, it's wifi.

    --
    JustThe.net - Steve Sobol / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
    temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)

    "Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"



  4. #4
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    Verizon has the SAME price of $80. I switched from Verizon to Sprint and
    previously used their data services. Sprint Rules! (Especially the phone
    selection and coverage in Southern California)

    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >>>Bob ::Noticing that they have put a cap on the expense for personal
    >>>accounts
    >>>@ $90/mo.::

    >>
    >> Heh. Nice guys, huh? $90 a month! I think Verizon's EV-DO is pretty
    >> much a lot less than that. Not that
    >> there aren't other problems with them.

    >
    > Does Verizon do unlimited for individual/non-business accounts? (or for
    > businesses, for that matter.)
    >
    > I mean, think of this. This essentially means you can use as much data as
    > you want and not pay more than $90 if you're an individual or $80 if
    > you're a business.
    >
    > I agree with some of the other stuff you've posted about Sprint, but I
    > think you're off base here.
    >
    > I think what we really have to do is compare apples to apples. T-Mobile
    > and Cingular have data plans, right? T-Mobile has a $30 wifi plan too, but
    > that's not cellular, it's wifi.
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net - Steve Sobol / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    > Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
    > temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
    >
    > "Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"






  5. #5
    Bob Smith
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release


    "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:06:59 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >http://tinyurl.com/8c8jt
    > >
    > >Bob ::Noticing that they have put a cap on the expense for personal

    accounts
    > >@ $90/mo.::

    >
    > Heh. Nice guys, huh? $90 a month!
    >
    > I think Verizon's EV-DO is pretty much a lot less than that. Not that
    > there aren't other problems with them.
    >
    > I think all the cellular carriers are on drugs or something. We don't
    > want this stuff, jammed down our throats this way. We want what we
    > want. Not all these scams and schemes.


    Scams & Schemes? Maybe this EV-DO service doesn't interest you, but there is
    a multitude of folks out there that does interest them, to have the ability
    to email to the home office, client, friends or family while on the road.
    Or, for those folks who like to surf the net while away from their home or
    business isp.

    If I start getting on the road a bit more, I'll be subscribing to the
    service, as a $90 monthly cost is cheap, when it comes to passing on data
    from clients to home office or visa versa, in getting new business or
    maintaining current customers.

    Bob





  6. #6
    Joseph Huber
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:59:47 GMT, "[email protected]"
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    >I think all the cellular carriers are on drugs or something.


    As that statement pertains to pricing for EV-DO, I'd have to agree.
    From the article that Bob posted, the charge will be $40/month for 40
    megabits (Mbits) of data.

    40 Mbits * 1024 kbits/Mbit = 40960 kbits
    40960 kbits / 400 kbits/s =~ 102 seconds

    So, I'd be paying $40 dollars for less than two minutes of data
    transfer per month. Perhaps I'll pass on that. Instead, I'll pay a
    few bucks for WiFi in the airport if I really need it, or use
    Vision/laptop for a few minutes, or wait until I get to the hotel,
    where Internet access is free (it's getting *much* easier to find
    reasonbly priced hotels that offer free Internet access).

    Joe Huber
    [email protected]



  7. #7

    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:50:39 -0700, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Does Verizon do unlimited for individual/non-business accounts? (or for
    >businesses, for that matter.)


    $44.99 a month unlimited according to Verizon on the phone right now.
    You have to have a blackberry or palm treo or other pda phone

    $59.99 unlimited with a ev-do phone like an LG-VX8000

    $5/month for mobile web, it comes out of your minutes on a regular
    phone. If you have lotsa minutes that might be the cheapest.

    Not sure what the difference is. I tried several at verizon, they all
    seemed to be same speed for what I looked at. EV-DO seemed no better
    for regular websites. Admittedly it was a brief test.



  8. #8
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    [email protected] wrote:

    > $44.99 a month unlimited according to Verizon on the phone right now.
    > You have to have a blackberry or palm treo or other pda phone


    Is that a promo? If not, I'm shocked that Verizon actually undercut Sprint
    on price.

    > Not sure what the difference is. I tried several at verizon, they all
    > seemed to be same speed for what I looked at. EV-DO seemed no better
    > for regular websites. Admittedly it was a brief test.


    1xEVDO is supposed to be up to 400-500Kbps througput. 1xRTT tops out at a
    theoretical limit of 115Kbps (ISDN speeds).

    --
    JustThe.net - Steve Sobol / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
    temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)

    "Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"



  9. #9
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    Verizon EVDO is a lot faster than 1XRTT! I have used one of the Verizon
    EVDO cards in the San Diego area and therefore have firsthand experience
    with the performance. Verizon did not roll-out EVDO in all markets. Maybe
    you were in a market where EVDO was not available.

    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> $44.99 a month unlimited according to Verizon on the phone right now. You
    >> have to have a blackberry or palm treo or other pda phone

    >
    > Is that a promo? If not, I'm shocked that Verizon actually undercut Sprint
    > on price.
    >
    >> Not sure what the difference is. I tried several at verizon, they all
    >> seemed to be same speed for what I looked at. EV-DO seemed no better
    >> for regular websites. Admittedly it was a brief test.

    >
    > 1xEVDO is supposed to be up to 400-500Kbps througput. 1xRTT tops out at a
    > theoretical limit of 115Kbps (ISDN speeds).
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net - Steve Sobol / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    > Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
    > temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
    >
    > "Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"






  10. #10
    John Richards
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    Joseph Huber wrote:
    > So, I'd be paying $40 dollars for less than two minutes of data
    > transfer per month. Perhaps I'll pass on that. Instead, I'll pay a
    > few bucks for WiFi in the airport if I really need it, or use
    > Vision/laptop for a few minutes, or wait until I get to the hotel,
    > where Internet access is free (it's getting *much* easier to find
    > reasonbly priced hotels that offer free Internet access).


    Yep. I stayed at a Comfort Suites hotel recently, and the whole
    chain has free WiFi in all rooms. Even if you're not a payin guest,
    you can go sit in the lobby and use their WiFi.

    --
    John Richards






  11. #11
    Tim Smith
    Guest

    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Scams & Schemes? Maybe this EV-DO service doesn't interest you, but there is
    > a multitude of folks out there that does interest them, to have the ability
    > to email to the home office, client, friends or family while on the road.
    > Or, for those folks who like to surf the net while away from their home or
    > business isp.
    >
    > If I start getting on the road a bit more, I'll be subscribing to the
    > service, as a $90 monthly cost is cheap, when it comes to passing on data
    > from clients to home office or visa versa, in getting new business or
    > maintaining current customers.


    A couple years ago, I would have jumped on that, and I never travel.
    For the first year I lived in my current apartment, the best internet
    connection I could get was 128 kbit/second ISDN.

    For the next year or so, the best I could get was 144 kbit/second IDSL,
    for around $100 month.

    That EV-DO at $90/month would have been a much better deal.

    (Since then, Sprint started offering real DSL here, and the cable
    company started offering internet service, so $90/month EV-DO is no
    longer exciting, since, like I said, I never travel).

    --
    --Tim Smith



  12. #12
    Tinman
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    John Richards wrote:
    > Joseph Huber wrote:
    >> Vision/laptop for a few minutes, or wait until I get to the hotel,
    >> where Internet access is free (it's getting *much* easier to find
    >> reasonbly priced hotels that offer free Internet access).

    >
    > Yep. I stayed at a Comfort Suites hotel recently, and the whole
    > chain has free WiFi in all rooms. Even if you're not a payin guest,
    > you can go sit in the lobby and use their WiFi.


    I travel a lot on business. Most all of the hotels I've stayed at that
    offer free WiFi use a proxy server-based authentication system. You are
    given a password at check-in, and sometimes the password must be used
    with a username (generally, your room number).

    In fact, the last Comfort Suites I stayed in did exactly that (password
    only). So while I could certainly use WiFi in the lobby, someone
    wandering in off the street without a password could not (as, IMO, it
    should be).

    At the (few) hotels I stayed at that had didn't use proxy
    authentication, WiFi was generally poorly setup, and of course very
    insecure--as were the users (just as a test, I was able to get full
    access to some clueless user's C: drive). Amazing...


    --
    Mike





  13. #13
    Kyler Laird
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    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> writes:

    >Verizon has the SAME price of $80. I switched from Verizon to Sprint and
    >previously used their data services. Sprint Rules!


    I purchased a 1xRTT connection card from Sprint awhile ago. I was
    disappointed by the performance so I returned it within the trial
    period.

    I really want EV-DO performane (low latency, specifically). I called
    Sprint this week and asked about picking up one of the EV-DO-capable
    cards (the S620). After getting swatted around a few times (and
    dropped altogether) I was finally told that I'd have to provide a
    business tax ID to get one.

    Apparently they only like my money for the three phones I've had with
    them for years.

    I've been advised to use Verizon and that VZW will have EV-DO here (in
    West Lafayette, IN) before Sprint.

    --kyler



  14. #14

    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:15:36 -0700, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    >[email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> $44.99 a month unlimited according to Verizon on the phone right now.
    >> You have to have a blackberry or palm treo or other pda phone

    >
    >Is that a promo? If not, I'm shocked that Verizon actually undercut Sprint
    >on price.

    No, I don't think so.

    For some reason I had thought that unlimited web was less than that if
    you had an EV-DO phone on VZW. That is the price that was quoted me
    as a non customer on the phone yesterday.

    I think Sprint is overcharging. Maybe their network has low capacity
    so they are not being price competitive to keep the problems from
    manifesting themselves. I can believe that.
    >
    >> Not sure what the difference is. I tried several at verizon, they all
    >> seemed to be same speed for what I looked at. EV-DO seemed no better
    >> for regular websites. Admittedly it was a brief test.

    >
    >1xEVDO is supposed to be up to 400-500Kbps througput. 1xRTT tops out at a
    >theoretical limit of 115Kbps (ISDN speeds).


    I didn't watch any videos.

    What I did was look at the same exact ebay auction page with an LG
    VX8000 (EV-DO), an LG VX7000 (same phone but no EV-DO) and another
    phone that was there on the kiosk. They all seemed to load that page
    at a similar speed. The EV-DO didn't seem to help at all!

    I expected the VX8000 to be way faster. But it wasn't.




  15. #15

    Re: SPCS announces EV-DO release

    Perhaps Sprint is pricing to EV-DO to cover it's intital rollout.....??

    I wonder if Sprint will support voip with EV-DO...??

    Another question is what will happen with Sprint PCS- Vision.....??

    In any case things will very interesting...??




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