2 phones/1 number

"Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Phone cloning is usually considered illegal. It is at least against ToS.
> It would certainly open the door for a whole lot of fraud. One of the
> main reasons for dumping analog for digital was the ability to stop
> cloning/fraud.

The service that the OP had (and I had and hundred's of others had) was not
cloning. It was all done in the switch and the phone itself actually had a
different number. The "call forwarding/ringing of several numbers" feature
of the switch was used.

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> It didn't then. In the normal course of events, only one phone was on
> at a time. But whenever I had more than one on at a time, all would
> ring, and I could answer the call from any of them.
>
>

The new CDMA systems won't permit it. Anti-cloning protections attach
the phone number to an ESN, and only one per number is allowed for the
same reason: anti-cloning.

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As I said before, though, my phones were NOT cloned. They were
programmed with their unique ESN and the same phone number. In this
contwxt, how does cloning and preventing it apply?

As I said before, though, my phones were NOT cloned. They were
programmed with their unique ESN and the same phone number. In this
context, how does cloning and preventing it apply?

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> As I said before, though, my phones were NOT cloned. They were
> programmed with their unique ESN and the same phone number. In this
> contwxt, how does cloning and preventing it apply?
>
>

I didn't say your previous phones were cloned. I said the new
restrictions are one protection against cloning.

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A thing moderately good
is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+

Notan writes:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Why not? Years ago I had three cars with a car phone installed in each.
>> Cellular One was able to program the same phone number to each phone.
>
> While I don't remember any carriers offering this as an option (There were
> a number of companies offering it, ILLEGALLY!), you're talking the days of
> analog.
>
> With digital, no can do.

That's what I would have thought, too, but here's a funny data
point: just today I got a new phone (RL-7300) at the Sprint
store in downtown Boston, to replace my old dying one, and I was
surprised to discover afterwards that the old one still had
service. I haven't tried calling myself yet to see which of
them rings.

Steve Summit wrote:
>
> Notan writes:
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >> Why not? Years ago I had three cars with a car phone installed in each.
> >> Cellular One was able to program the same phone number to each phone.
> >
> > While I don't remember any carriers offering this as an option (There were
> > a number of companies offering it, ILLEGALLY!), you're talking the days of
> > analog.
> >
> > With digital, no can do.
>
> That's what I would have thought, too, but here's a funny data
> point: just today I got a new phone (RL-7300) at the Sprint
> store in downtown Boston, to replace my old dying one, and I was
> surprised to discover afterwards that the old one still had
> service. I haven't tried calling myself yet to see which of
> them rings.

Does it actually have service, or is it just showing a signal?

Try making a call with it.

Notan

I think you are supposed to turn the old phone off for something like
24 hours.


Steve Summit wrote:
> Notan writes:
>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Why not? Years ago I had three cars with a car phone installed in each.
>>>Cellular One was able to program the same phone number to each phone.
>>
>>While I don't remember any carriers offering this as an option (There were
>>a number of companies offering it, ILLEGALLY!), you're talking the days of
>>analog.
>>
>>With digital, no can do.
>
>
> That's what I would have thought, too, but here's a funny data
> point: just today I got a new phone (RL-7300) at the Sprint
> store in downtown Boston, to replace my old dying one, and I was
> surprised to discover afterwards that the old one still had
> service. I haven't tried calling myself yet to see which of
> them rings.

Notan wrote:
>Steve Summit wrote:
>> Notan writes:
>>> With digital, no can do.
>>
>> That's what I would have thought, too, but here's a funny data
>> point: just today I got a new phone (RL-7300) at the Sprint
>> store in downtown Boston, to replace my old dying one, and I was
>> surprised to discover afterwards that the old one still had
>> service.
>
> Does it actually have service, or is it just showing a signal?
> Try making a call with it.

It did actually have service. I called voice mail with the new
phone, and then with the old phone, and they both worked.

But then later that night, the old phone had lost service,
and it can't make calls now.

So obviously it was a transient effect: the network update
to recognize the new phone ID was immediate, and the one to
disrecognize the old one took more time. Too bad I didn't
try calling myself while I had the chance; now it's too late.
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