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  1. #31
    Notan
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    Re: phone as modem

    mikeyhsd wrote:
    >
    > again
    > they do not work in 64 bit os.
    >
    > <snip>


    I understand that FutereDial doesn't "support" them,
    but have you actually tried?

    Notan



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  2. #32
    FWIW
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    Due respect goes to anyone who would even think about running a
    Microsoft alpha release Operating System.

    They have yet to get a single OS version out of beta testing.




  3. #33
    Tinman
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    Re: phone as modem

    FWIW wrote:
    > Due respect goes to anyone who would even think about running a
    > Microsoft alpha release Operating System.
    >
    > They have yet to get a single OS version out of beta testing.


    Well IMNSHO mikeyhsd, prolific writer that he is, should have mentioned
    his OS in the first friggin' post--not the tenth. While Windows XP
    64-bit is of course not, technically, alpha, 32-bit drivers won't work
    with it; and that's obviously where his problem lies. That should have
    been what his first question was about, preferably without the HTML and
    scrolling signature.

    From what Paul wrote, it would appear SPCS will be offering tethered
    data plans, as well as connection kits, in the near future. Betcha they
    don't include XP 64 support either.

    I would ask why he has the need to run XP 64, but have no desire to
    interpret a two-line cryptic reply. (And I don't mean that in a bad
    kinda way.)


    --
    Mike





  4. #34
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Due respect goes to anyone who would even think about running a
    > Microsoft alpha release Operating System.
    >


    Windows XP 64-bit isn't Alpha. It's commercially released.

    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



  5. #35
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > From what Paul wrote, it would appear SPCS will be offering tethered
    > data plans, as well as connection kits, in the near future. Betcha they
    > don't include XP 64 support either.
    >


    The tethering plans were included in advertising brochures (available in
    stores) starting back in July. And they also show up on the Sprint
    plans pages.

    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



  6. #36
    Notan
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    O/Siris wrote:
    >
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > says...
    > > From what Paul wrote, it would appear SPCS will be offering tethered
    > > data plans, as well as connection kits, in the near future. Betcha they
    > > don't include XP 64 support either.
    > >

    >
    > The tethering plans were included in advertising brochures (available in
    > stores) starting back in July. And they also show up on the Sprint
    > plans pages.


    Earlier in this thread, you said "Sprint stopped supporting that about
    6 months after Vision was launched."

    Have you changed your mind?

    Notan



  7. #37
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > >If Sprint sells the hardware, then they'd better support it.

    >
    > Or what?
    >
    > They told me to remove the battery from my Treo 600 for crying out
    > loud.
    >


    I'm curious, are you talking about the first rep you spoke to, or to an
    actual Vision tech?

    I once went three days straight where pulling the battery from a Vision
    phone fixed every call that came to me. You have to consciously remind
    yourself to actually pay attention to the phone model when you get into
    a rut like that.

    Doesn't excuse the error, but I can still understand where it might
    happen. Once is not a trend.

    "Or what?" Or they really *do* open themselves up to legal action.

    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



  8. #38
    Joseph Huber
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:39:29 -0600, O/Siris wrote:
    >[email protected] says...
    >> Due respect goes to anyone who would even think about running a
    >> Microsoft alpha release Operating System.

    >
    >Windows XP 64-bit isn't Alpha. It's commercially released.


    He was probably being sarcastic. Given the multitude of bug fixes and
    security patches that are released for any MS operating system, up
    until the day that MS stops oficially supporting that OS, one might
    consider any MS OS to be Alpha, whether it's commercially released or
    not...

    In fact, Windows Update is just about to install another security
    patch on my Win2Kpro computer. Win2K has only been out for 6 years
    now.
    Joe Huber
    [email protected]



  9. #39
    mikeyhsd
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    its very simnple, I prefer to run a MODERN compuer instead of a teletype
    that cannot interpret HTML.

    [email protected]
    "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > FWIW wrote:
    >> Due respect goes to anyone who would even think about running a
    >> Microsoft alpha release Operating System.
    >>
    >> They have yet to get a single OS version out of beta testing.

    >
    > Well IMNSHO mikeyhsd, prolific writer that he is, should have mentioned
    > his OS in the first friggin' post--not the tenth. While Windows XP 64-bit
    > is of course not, technically, alpha, 32-bit drivers won't work with it;
    > and that's obviously where his problem lies. That should have been what
    > his first question was about, preferably without the HTML and scrolling
    > signature.
    >
    > From what Paul wrote, it would appear SPCS will be offering tethered data
    > plans, as well as connection kits, in the near future. Betcha they don't
    > include XP 64 support either.
    >
    > I would ask why he has the need to run XP 64, but have no desire to
    > interpret a two-line cryptic reply. (And I don't mean that in a bad kinda
    > way.)
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike
    >





  10. #40
    FWIW
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    >I'm curious, are you talking about the first rep you spoke to, or to an
    >actual Vision tech?


    "Teir 1 Technical Support". Whatever that is.

    >I once went three days straight where pulling the battery from a Vision
    >phone fixed every call that came to me. You have to consciously remind
    >yourself to actually pay attention to the phone model when you get into
    >a rut like that.


    Well, yeah. And when a phone has a non-removable battery, and you have
    no support ideas other than "remove the battery", then support for such
    people pretty much ends. Like I said, nobody ever called me back, but
    someone on a forum was able to help me.

    That's exactly why I said that Sprint Tech support IS "remove the
    battery" ... because if that doesn't work, you may be SOL as far as
    Sprint is concerned. At least I was.

    >Doesn't excuse the error, but I can still understand where it might
    >happen. Once is not a trend.


    I agree, it's not a trend. But the promised call back never occured
    either (phone cals were working fine). So, I only tried Sprint
    "support" twice, and they batted .000

    Now, I don't buy a product I can't support myself, or that the
    manufacturer or someone other than Sprint can support.

    Screw me once it's your fault, twice it's mine.

    In order for Sprint to support a hardware device, it has to have a
    removable battery. Which a data cable doesn't have. So I don't know
    what quality of service these guys are going to get, which is why they
    should probably figure it out before they put a whole lot of money into
    the tethering solution.

    ""Or what?" Or they really *do* open themselves up to legal action. "

    Except that they make you sign your rights away to a class action or
    jury trial (and from what I can tell ... for good reason). So they
    really don't have to do much of anything, unless you want to argue
    before the court that the arbitration clause is unconciounable, etc,
    etc.

    Most people just want something that works out of the box.




  11. #41
    FWIW
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    >Windows XP 64-bit isn't Alpha. It's commercially released.

    Surely you gest.

    Windows 95 never made it out of Alpha.

    It didn't stop them from "commercially releasing" it.




  12. #42
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    There are very few 64-bit drivers of any kind available.
    If you're running a 64-bit OS it should not be your main or solo OS.
    If it was me, I'd be dual-booting the 64-bit OS and a 32-bit OS.
    You need the latter to get any real work done.

    --
    John Richards


    "mikeyhsd" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > again
    > they do not work in 64 bit os.





  13. #43
    mikeyhsd
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    not really.
    the only thing not available for me at this time is drivers to connect phone
    to computer and my lexmrk printer. of course with lexmark if it is over 2
    years old, forget it.

    of course my computer was specially built with 64 bit os in mind.
    I had the printer and phone before getting the computer.



    [email protected]
    "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > There are very few 64-bit drivers of any kind available.
    > If you're running a 64-bit OS it should not be your main or solo OS.
    > If it was me, I'd be dual-booting the 64-bit OS and a 32-bit OS.
    > You need the latter to get any real work done.
    >
    > --
    > John Richards
    >
    >
    > "mikeyhsd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> again
    >> they do not work in 64 bit os.

    >





  14. #44
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem


    "mikeyhsd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > its very simnple, I prefer to run a MODERN compuer instead of a teletype
    > that cannot interpret HTML.


    HTML has got nothing to do with old or new / modern computers. It's got to
    do with posting in a different language, one which adds more coding, and
    does not allow for proper formatting when bottom posting.

    HTML is great for creating word docs, etc, but it's not good to use in
    Usenet, where replies usually follow the originating post. It's the
    operator, you, who doesn't realize the difference.

    Bob





  15. #45
    FWIW
    Guest

    Re: phone as modem

    >of course my computer was specially built with 64 bit os in mind.

    I have a couple of 100% 64 bit OS-ready computers built.

    The ONLY one that is of any consquence, is the box running 64 bit
    Linux. Do I see a performance difference? In benchmarks .... some of
    them yes, in day-to-day computing .... no.

    And in Windows, almost every application is still wirtten and obtimized
    for 32 bit OS's. I was able to get a copy of 64 bit Windows it in
    July. The only performance increase you *might* see is for a program
    written specifically for 64bit Windows. And then you get to worry
    about these little niggling things like a driver here and there that
    won't work, and the brand spanking new bugs that have long since been
    ironed out in the 32 bit versions of XP and Win2000.

    Eventually it will be an almost compeltely 64 bit world. Maybe in 5
    years. But in that time, that nice, shiny AMD 64 3800+ is going to
    become a dinosaur.

    I scrapped Win 64bit, as there was no benefit (unless I wanted to load
    tha machine with over 4 gigs of ram), and being an alpha tester on the
    leading edge of little benefit is ovverrated. I've done it many times
    before.

    If you are happy with Win 64, I am happy for you. But these little
    problems that you are encoutnering now *probably* aren't worth whatever
    benefit you might be getting out of the OS, IMHO.

    Then again, maybe they are ....

    I'll go to that OS when AMD releases a 7000+ chip, every major vendor
    has made 64 bit versions of their OS, and good folks such as yourself
    have already forwarded their core dumps to Microsoft for 2 years.




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