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  1. #1
    anutforyou@core.com
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    Can this be done and what is the best way of doing this?




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  2. #2
    Mike Callery
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    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    You can easily go to Sprint, upgrade your phone and keep the same plan, the
    problem is that when you upgrade, typically you have to renew your timed
    obligation to Sprint for one or two years.

    One way around this is to locate the phone on eBay and purchase it there.
    Then you can simply move to the new phone without having to do an upgrade
    and extend.


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  3. #3
    Tinman
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    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    Mike Callery wrote:
    > You can easily go to Sprint, upgrade your phone and keep the same
    > plan,


    If you upgrade to an EV-DO phone, and have an old plan--particularly one
    with grandfathered Vision--you probably won't get Sprint to keep you on
    the same plan. Non-EV-DO phones are of course a different story.


    > the problem is that when you upgrade, typically you have to
    > renew your timed obligation to Sprint for one or two years.
    >


    This is only if one gets a new-phone rebate. In that case Sprint is
    subsidizing the handset. They would like to ensure they receive that
    money back--like most other carriers. Ergo, the contract extension. But
    you are free to buy the phone at "full" price from Sprint or any
    retailer and not extend your contract by one single day.


    > One way around this is to locate the phone on eBay and purchase it
    > there. Then you can simply move to the new phone without having to do
    > an upgrade and extend.
    >


    If it's a "new" phone you'll still have your rebate clock reset. (In
    many cases, even by activating a new-for-you used phone.)

    This assumes you are willing to take a chance on a cellphone via Ebay.
    Many have had great results. Others have not been as fortunate.


    --
    Mike





  4. #4
    John Richards
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    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    "Mike Callery" <mikecallery@remove.cox.net> wrote in message news:Fvgpf.40979$WH.17943@dukeread01...
    > You can easily go to Sprint, upgrade your phone and keep the same plan, the
    > problem is that when you upgrade, typically you have to renew your timed
    > obligation to Sprint for one or two years.
    >
    > One way around this is to locate the phone on eBay and purchase it there.
    > Then you can simply move to the new phone without having to do an upgrade
    > and extend.


    It should be mentioned that, if the new phone has not been activated
    with Sprint before, it will reset your rebate clock.

    --
    John Richards



  5. #5
    Tinman
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    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    John Richards wrote:
    > "Mike Callery" <mikecallery@remove.cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:Fvgpf.40979$WH.17943@dukeread01...
    >> You can easily go to Sprint, upgrade your phone and keep the same
    >> plan, the problem is that when you upgrade, typically you have to
    >> renew your
    >> timed obligation to Sprint for one or two years.
    >>
    >> One way around this is to locate the phone on eBay and purchase it
    >> there. Then you can simply move to the new phone without having to do
    >> an
    >> upgrade and extend.

    >
    > It should be mentioned that, if the new phone has not been activated
    > with Sprint before, it will reset your rebate clock.


    You are of course correct. But please don't bother Mr. Callery with such
    "details," as he prefers vague generalities instead. ;-)

    Also, some people have had their clocks reset with phones that had been
    activated before on SPCS (including me). I believe it happened to Paul
    Miner as well, and he attributed it to "a case of not applying a policy
    uniformly." I tend to agree.

    I'm not sure CSRs can even "reset" the clock, or know how to. When they
    did it to me, all they (claimed) they could do was notate my account
    that my rebate period is *really* such-and-such date. YMMV, as I know
    others who swap phones all the time without having the rebate clock
    reset.


    --
    Mike





  6. #6
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    This is untrue information. Much has been said about this topic on
    sprintusers.com


    > If you upgrade to an EV-DO phone, and have an old plan--particularly one
    > with grandfathered Vision--you probably won't get Sprint to keep you on
    > the same plan. Non-EV-DO phones are of course a different story.
    >






  7. #7
    Tinman
    Guest

    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > This is untrue information. Much has been said about this topic on
    > sprintusers.com
    >


    Uh, Mij, what part of "PROBABLY won't get Sprint to keep you on the same
    plan" weren't you able to follow? [emphasis added]

    Yes, there are people who have jumped through hoops to keep their old
    Vision plans. But there are far more people who have lost it (you'd be
    foolish to think everyone researches sprintusers.com when they don't
    know this will even happen). You will also see people who have had their
    plan changed without their knowledge, even though they were initially
    told it wouldn't. And once it is lost, it is gone, unless you jump
    through even more hoops (even then, it's usually not quite the same
    promo).

    If you have a grandfathered Vision plan, or any plan that has a promo
    code that is no longer allowed (if changed), once the Sprint rep
    modifies that field it's all over. The field is validated against
    current promo codes and will not allow the old code back in. This has
    been verified (personally) by Sprint CSRs.

    They are also adding more roadblocks to disallow circumventing the
    addition of true EV-DO plans without removing the old promo codes (I
    believe they already present a pop-up warning during EV-DO activations
    about this subject). Rumor has it this will get more-and-more strict (if
    it isn't already).

    Time will tell if they force everyone onto it. Had EV-DO been overlaid
    everywhere 1x exists, you can bet they would close this loophole pronto
    (try upgrading a non-Vision phone to a Vision phone while keeping your
    "Wireless Web" option).

    So what I wrote, as worded, is indeed *true*. In fact, I'll even provide
    you with a post right from sprintusers.com, posted just today:
    "http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84688&highlight=EV-DO+Vision+plan"
    =================================
    Old school plans will not mesh with EVDO

    I will try to describe the following situation as quickly as possble:
    I've been a Sprint Customer for a number of years now. I currently have
    2000 anytime minutes; a second line for wifey (no charge); Unlimited
    Text messaging for both phones; Night and Weekends at 7 p.m.; PCS Vision
    with Picture Pack (no charge); and the usual standard features. With my
    discounts and and after taxes, I pay approx. $100.00 per month.

    Now that you know that, here comes the good (really bad) part. I go into
    the Sprint Store the other day to upgrade my phones from the Sanyo
    pm-8200 to the Blade. I only wanted this phone primarily for the
    Bluetooth. The EVDO didn't matter either way. So, I buy the phones,
    charge 'em, and I'm ready to roll. Just to be on the safe side, I call
    customer service (I'm a cynic at heart) to verify my plan. The rep
    advised that I no longer had Unlimited Text Messaging (which is $15.00
    under EVDO for both phones) and Power Vision is extra as well ($20.00
    for both phones) Anyway, I tell her that I could care less about EVDO
    and I want my old plan back. She says Okay. And it is done.

    Later that day, I call CS again because I just had a bad feeling about
    the whole thing especially after reading about some of the horror
    stories on this forum. The CS told me that my plan had not been changed
    back to the way I wanted it, and that there was nothing that they could
    do. I took those Blades back to the Store and got my great plan back. If
    I had known or was even told about all of the changes that were being
    made to my account when I bought those Blades, I would have left them in
    the store. What a waste of time. From what I understand, the Treo 700
    (with EVDO) should be out around the first of the year. When that
    happens, the price should drop on the 650 and I will get one of those
    for the Bluetooth. Morales of the story "Research as much as you can,
    and when you think you have, that's not even enough" and "Incompetence
    is ruining the fabric of society" -me
    =================================

    In this guy's case they were able to get him back to where he was with
    Vision (after he returned the phones). But if his Vision promo code is
    no longer supported (and his may be), they accomplished it through some
    other means. (His wasn't a spectacular deal--I have a better deal and
    have three phones.)

    That of course didn't stop the bashing on SUF about not "researching
    enough." Gee, why would you have to research if this wasn't an issue,
    Mij?


    --
    Mike





  8. #8
    Rick
    Guest

    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > This is untrue information. Much has been said about this topic on
    > sprintusers.com
    >
    >
    >
    >>If you upgrade to an EV-DO phone, and have an old plan--particularly one
    >>with grandfathered Vision--you probably won't get Sprint to keep you on
    >>the same plan. Non-EV-DO phones are of course a different story.
    >>

    >
    >
    >

    I had seen the posts on sprintusers and coupled with the sprint store
    salesperson's assurance that the grandfathered unlimited Vision of my
    Free and Clear 3500 minute plan would apply to my new EVDO Sanyo MM-9000
    I proceeded to experiment with my new phone and its Vision and
    PowerVision capabilities (none of the individually chargeable items).
    In just about a week I racked up nearly 200 bucks in per kilobyte Vision
    usage charges. I made a call to Sprint and got the charges removed and
    added a basic PowerVision plan after being educated that my previous
    Vison service code was incompatible with my new phone. I revisited the
    sprint store where the saleperson who originally told me my old vision
    plan code would apply confirmed that my new phone needed a new vision
    plan. At least in my case I was able to keep my minutes plan but some of
    the features were a problem.

    Rick



  9. #9
    Mij Adyaw
    Guest

    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    If you do not use the EVDO phone any differently than your old phone, how do
    you rack up a $200 charge? You must be watching video or downloading music?


    "Rick" <Rick@rick.net> wrote in message
    news:euydnTf7-p23lzveRVn-jQ@midco.net...
    > Mij Adyaw wrote:
    >> This is untrue information. Much has been said about this topic on
    >> sprintusers.com
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>If you upgrade to an EV-DO phone, and have an old plan--particularly one
    >>>with grandfathered Vision--you probably won't get Sprint to keep you on
    >>>the same plan. Non-EV-DO phones are of course a different story.
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>

    > I had seen the posts on sprintusers and coupled with the sprint store
    > salesperson's assurance that the grandfathered unlimited Vision of my Free
    > and Clear 3500 minute plan would apply to my new EVDO Sanyo MM-9000 I
    > proceeded to experiment with my new phone and its Vision and PowerVision
    > capabilities (none of the individually chargeable items). In just about a
    > week I racked up nearly 200 bucks in per kilobyte Vision usage charges. I
    > made a call to Sprint and got the charges removed and added a basic
    > PowerVision plan after being educated that my previous Vison service code
    > was incompatible with my new phone. I revisited the sprint store where the
    > saleperson who originally told me my old vision plan code would apply
    > confirmed that my new phone needed a new vision plan. At least in my case
    > I was able to keep my minutes plan but some of the features were a
    > problem.
    >
    > Rick






  10. #10
    Rick
    Guest

    Re: I want to upgrade phone and keep same plan

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > If you do not use the EVDO phone any differently than your old phone, how do
    > you rack up a $200 charge? You must be watching video or downloading music?
    >
    >
    > "Rick" <Rick@rick.net> wrote in message
    > news:euydnTf7-p23lzveRVn-jQ@midco.net...
    >
    >>Mij Adyaw wrote:
    >>
    >>>This is untrue information. Much has been said about this topic on
    >>>sprintusers.com
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>If you upgrade to an EV-DO phone, and have an old plan--particularly one
    >>>>with grandfathered Vision--you probably won't get Sprint to keep you on
    >>>>the same plan. Non-EV-DO phones are of course a different story.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>I had seen the posts on sprintusers and coupled with the sprint store
    >>salesperson's assurance that the grandfathered unlimited Vision of my Free
    >>and Clear 3500 minute plan would apply to my new EVDO Sanyo MM-9000 I
    >>proceeded to experiment with my new phone and its Vision and PowerVision
    >>capabilities (none of the individually chargeable items). In just about a
    >>week I racked up nearly 200 bucks in per kilobyte Vision usage charges. I
    >>made a call to Sprint and got the charges removed and added a basic
    >>PowerVision plan after being educated that my previous Vison service code
    >>was incompatible with my new phone. I revisited the sprint store where the
    >>saleperson who originally told me my old vision plan code would apply
    >>confirmed that my new phone needed a new vision plan. At least in my case
    >>I was able to keep my minutes plan but some of the features were a
    >>problem.
    >>
    >>Rick

    >
    >
    >

    Since the Vision feature for my previous plan was invalid all vision
    access from my phone was charged at the $.01 per kilobyte rate. It
    doesn't take much to rack up big charges. I wasn't downloading
    anything. By my math 200 bucks is about 20MB of total vision access over
    the course of a week. You don't have to be downloading music or
    streaming video to do that.

    Rick



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