Better to use bluetooth adapter to known good reception phone than the Treo 650's poorer reception ?

Is the signal holding capability of the Treo 650 as relatively poor as
many users report ?
We have need to use bluetooth with Sprint but also to need have
quality reception, in that there are some tougher spots around our
areas.
There are now newer second generation versions of Bluetooth adapters,
for non bluetooth phones, that seems to be superior and smaller that
the earlier generations.

The question becomes if it is just better overall to use the tried and
true reception tested Sanyo phones, such as the 4920, and add a
bluetooth adapter and have the proven reception capability - than to
go with a bluetooth enabled phone for Sprint - namely the Treo 650
which users seem to think has poor reception capabilities.

Thanks in advance

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:52:11 GMT, Roger Behrings
<RogerSpamnot@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Is the signal holding capability of the Treo 650 as relatively poor as
>many users report ?
>We have need to use bluetooth with Sprint but also to need have
>quality reception, in that there are some tougher spots around our
>areas.
>There are now newer second generation versions of Bluetooth adapters,
>for non bluetooth phones, that seems to be superior and smaller that
>the earlier generations.
>
>The question becomes if it is just better overall to use the tried and
>true reception tested Sanyo phones, such as the 4920, and add a
>bluetooth adapter and have the proven reception capability - than to
>go with a bluetooth enabled phone for Sprint - namely the Treo 650
>which users seem to think has poor reception capabilities.
>
>Thanks in advance


Wow, I am surprised as this is quite the question that I also have,
although I have no answer to provide. If some advanced folks have
answers or insights into this, I would be interested also. Thanks.

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:22:21 GMT, Jeff <S3434Pnospam@yahoo.com remove
the nospam> wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:52:11 GMT, Roger Behrings
><RogerSpamnot@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>Is the signal holding capability of the Treo 650 as relatively poor as
>>many users report ?
>>We have need to use bluetooth with Sprint but also to need have
>>quality reception, in that there are some tougher spots around our
>>areas.
>>There are now newer second generation versions of Bluetooth adapters,
>>for non bluetooth phones, that seems to be superior and smaller that
>>the earlier generations.
>>
>>The question becomes if it is just better overall to use the tried and
>>true reception tested Sanyo phones, such as the 4920, and add a
>>bluetooth adapter and have the proven reception capability - than to
>>go with a bluetooth enabled phone for Sprint - namely the Treo 650
>>which users seem to think has poor reception capabilities.
>>
>>Thanks in advance
>
>
>Wow, I am surprised as this is quite the question that I also have,
>although I have no answer to provide. If some advanced folks have
>answers or insights into this, I would be interested also. Thanks.

I use a RL-4920 with the Jabra A210 Bluetooth adapter. I have gone
through several headsets and even the Jabra BT250v picked up to much
of the background noise to be usable.
What I found that works well for me is the Gennum nXGEN Plus 5500
because even in a noisy setting it does not pick up much of the noise.
The only problem with it is that in a very noisy setting it will clip
some words.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:49:51 -0600, Douglas S. Wamble
<dswamble@spamcop.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:22:21 GMT, Jeff <S3434Pnospam@yahoo.com remove
>the nospam> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:52:11 GMT, Roger Behrings
>><RogerSpamnot@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Is the signal holding capability of the Treo 650 as relatively poor as
>>>many users report ?
>>>We have need to use bluetooth with Sprint but also to need have
>>>quality reception, in that there are some tougher spots around our
>>>areas.
>>>There are now newer second generation versions of Bluetooth adapters,
>>>for non bluetooth phones, that seems to be superior and smaller that
>>>the earlier generations.
>>>
>>>The question becomes if it is just better overall to use the tried and
>>>true reception tested Sanyo phones, such as the 4920, and add a
>>>bluetooth adapter and have the proven reception capability - than to
>>>go with a bluetooth enabled phone for Sprint - namely the Treo 650
>>>which users seem to think has poor reception capabilities.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>Wow, I am surprised as this is quite the question that I also have,
>>although I have no answer to provide. If some advanced folks have
>>answers or insights into this, I would be interested also. Thanks.
>
>I use a RL-4920 with the Jabra A210 Bluetooth adapter. I have gone
>through several headsets and even the Jabra BT250v picked up to much
>of the background noise to be usable.
>What I found that works well for me is the Gennum nXGEN Plus 5500
>because even in a noisy setting it does not pick up much of the noise.
>The only problem with it is that in a very noisy setting it will clip
>some words.

Thanks for the leads, I did do a google search with the Gennum as
written above. is there a different spelling that might work ? I have
not receive Google leads as to the product despite the different
spellings and deletions that I have tried.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:19:57 GMT, Roger Behrings
<RogerSpamnot@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:49:51 -0600, Douglas S. Wamble
<SNIP>
>>
>>I use a RL-4920 with the Jabra A210 Bluetooth adapter. I have gone
>>through several headsets and even the Jabra BT250v picked up to much
>>of the background noise to be usable.
>>What I found that works well for me is the Gennum nXGEN Plus 5500
>>because even in a noisy setting it does not pick up much of the noise.
>>The only problem with it is that in a very noisy setting it will clip
>>some words.
>
>Thanks for the leads, I did do a google search with the Gennum as
>written above. is there a different spelling that might work ? I have
>not receive Google leads as to the product despite the different
>spellings and deletions that I have tried.

Try http://www.gennum.com/bt/index.html.

A couple of things I found in the last day or so:
The buttons do not work on the headset to end / make calls or change
volume (but volume control on phone does change headset volume),
problem is relate related to the Jabra A210 adapter & phone, for me it
is not a problem as I have the phone set to auto answer.
Each time you turn the adapter and headset back on you have to use the
pinch button to get them talking to each other. One time thing until
you turn them back off to recharge, it is covered in the A210 manual.

Another problem came up last night. My wife has a Sanyo VI-2300 flip
phone that works with the A210 / nXGEN and we gave a friend my wife's
set to try out on her T Mobile phone, her Samsung flip phone causes a
echo on the called persons phone that makes talking impossible even
when setting the slider on the A210 to the number 2 setting as
suggested in the manual. The friend is going to T Mobile to see if she
can get a RAZR V3 today, she is in love with the headset and does not
want to give up yet.

Suggestion, check the return policy of where you buy it so if it does
not work with your phone model you can return it. Such as Compusa's 21
day return.

The reviews that I have read on the other Sprint phones that are
Bluetooth enabled with out going to the PDA types are not good so I do
not know how to get away from the extra parts at this time and still
have the freedom (no wires) of Bluetooth.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:48:43 -0600, Doug Wamble
<dswamblenospam@spamcop.net remove nospam> wrote:

<SNIP>
>
>Try http://www.gennum.com/bt/index.html.
>
>A couple of things I found in the last day or so:
>The buttons do not work on the headset to end / make calls or change
>volume (but volume control on phone does change headset volume),
>problem is relate related to the Jabra A210 adapter & phone, for me it
>is not a problem as I have the phone set to auto answer.
>Each time you turn the adapter and headset back on you have to use the
>pinch button to get them talking to each other. One time thing until
>you turn them back off to recharge, it is covered in the A210 manual.
>
>Another problem came up last night. My wife has a Sanyo VI-2300 flip
>phone that works with the A210 / nXGEN and we gave a friend my wife's
>set to try out on her T Mobile phone, her Samsung flip phone causes a
>echo on the called persons phone that makes talking impossible even
>when setting the slider on the A210 to the number 2 setting as
>suggested in the manual. The friend is going to T Mobile to see if she
>can get a RAZR V3 today, she is in love with the headset and does not
>want to give up yet.
>
>Suggestion, check the return policy of where you buy it so if it does
>not work with your phone model you can return it. Such as Compusa's 21
>day return.
>
>The reviews that I have read on the other Sprint phones that are
>Bluetooth enabled with out going to the PDA types are not good so I do
>not know how to get away from the extra parts at this time and still
>have the freedom (no wires) of Bluetooth.

I misspelled nXGEN in all my posts, it should have been nXZEN, sorry
about that

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:52:11 +0000, Roger Behrings wrote:

> Is the signal holding capability of the Treo 650 as relatively poor as
> many users report ?
> We have need to use bluetooth with Sprint but also to need have
> quality reception, in that there are some tougher spots around our
> areas.
> There are now newer second generation versions of Bluetooth adapters,
> for non bluetooth phones, that seems to be superior and smaller that
> the earlier generations.
>
> The question becomes if it is just better overall to use the tried and
> true reception tested Sanyo phones, such as the 4920, and add a
> bluetooth adapter and have the proven reception capability - than to
> go with a bluetooth enabled phone for Sprint - namely the Treo 650
> which users seem to think has poor reception capabilities.
>
> Thanks in advance

The Bluetooth on the Treo 650 works fine. I use it with the Bluetooth in
my car, I'm not having any trouble with it.

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:31:06 -0500, General Schvantzkoph
<schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:52:11 +0000, Roger Behrings wrote:
>
>> Is the signal holding capability of the Treo 650 as relatively poor as
>> many users report ?
>> We have need to use bluetooth with Sprint but also to need have
>> quality reception, in that there are some tougher spots around our
>> areas.
>> There are now newer second generation versions of Bluetooth adapters,
>> for non bluetooth phones, that seems to be superior and smaller that
>> the earlier generations.
>>
>> The question becomes if it is just better overall to use the tried and
>> true reception tested Sanyo phones, such as the 4920, and add a
>> bluetooth adapter and have the proven reception capability - than to
>> go with a bluetooth enabled phone for Sprint - namely the Treo 650
>> which users seem to think has poor reception capabilities.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>
>The Bluetooth on the Treo 650 works fine. I use it with the Bluetooth in
>my car, I'm not having any trouble with it.

Stepping in here. I am about to make a move to buy a Treo 650 Sprint,
basically for the fact that it is bluetooth capable. I have read some
reviews in which the bluetooth capability of the Treo 650 sprint had
some shortcomings, and that the new Treo 700 resolved those.
Does that make sense to you ?
I do research the heck out of things before proceeding and those
opinions, which I have read, might not be fully valid or useful.
There will be no Treo 700 for Sprint for a number of months. \
Are you able to use, for example, the Motorola 850 bluetooth earpiece
with the Sprint Treo 650 and have all of the functionalitiy of the
headset and not be impaired or held back by the Sprint Treo 650's
bluetooth operational capabilities ?