Sprint now using slot cycle index # 1 instead of # 2 in LA market

Does this mean less of a chance to have the pilot pollution issue?

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Unfortunately no. The only thing this does is shorten the amount of
artifically (switch) generated rings the caller hears when calling
Sprint PCS numbers and gives our phones the ability to actually ring
about 2.5 seconds faster than they used to.

This WILL NOT solve pilot pollution issues or the frequent missed
incoming call issue due to an NID/SID boundary situation.

Larry -
Does this improve the chances of a phone hearing its page because it's
awake for twice as many pages during the 45 sec. or so that the call is
being advertised? So if it's in a poor signal area or a congested area
it'll have more chances to hear its page?

Is this your same answer ("no") as for pilot pollution?

By the way, on the top line of my A680's debug screen, after the SID/NID
info, it says "SI2 2". Maybe one of those indicates that we're still
using SCI 2 in the San Francisco area.

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Frank Harris in San Francisco with an A680

Frank,

Unfortunately the answer is no which is disappointing. The phone does
search for an incoming call quicker than it used to but the phone only
wakes up one time to search and then gives up like it did in the past.
If it doesn't find it during that one search the call gets directed to
voicemail. I'm frequently in an area that has an NID split so I've
been able to do some good experimenting. In this area about 1/3 of
incoming calls miss the phone because those calls are getting lost in
the paging channel because the phone is registering on two different
switches at the same time. What happens is after exactly 3 rings (on
the caller's end) without being able to find the phone the call gets
sent to vociemail. It used to be about 5-6 rings (on the caller's
end) and the call would get sent to voicemail if the paging channel
couldn't locate the phone. But the whole calling process has been
shortened by about 50%. There's no real advantage to this new slot
cycle except that a caller won't have to hear as many artificially
generated rings as they used to. It would be a nice benefit to us all
if the phone was able to wake up twice as many times to search for
incoming calls but that's just not happening.

By the way my phone also still shows SCI # 2 in debug mode. But the
phones around here are all behaving as though Sprint is using a
shortened version of SCI #1 where the phone only wakes up one time to
receive the page instead of twice like it should. I'm not sure exactly
what's going on. Maybe it's just a new and shortened up version of SCI
# 2??

[email protected] wrote:
> Frank,
>
> Unfortunately the answer is no which is disappointing. The phone does
> search for an incoming call quicker than it used to but the phone only
> wakes up one time to search and then gives up like it did in the past.

This doesn't quite make sense. The phone isn't waking up "only once"
and then give up. It's waking up every 2.56 seconds to check the
network for a page if configure for slot cycle index 1.

Do you mean to say the *network* is only sending the page once, during
only one time slot per call attempt?


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It's hard to say for sure but it appears like that is what's happening.
I know it doesn't make much sense. When I'm in an area that has a
high rate of incoming call failure (NID border) I only hear 3 rings
(when I call my handset from a landline) and then the call goes to
voicemail (handset doesn't ring). It used to be 5-7 rings. So it
looks like the network is giving up faster than it should.