Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?

"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Yes, I most certainly do; via Pocket Tunes Deluxe. And this is with a
>Treo 650, which is of course limited to CDMA 1x speeds. While not hi-fi,
>the streams sound fine to me.

the main thing I want to listen to is talk shows and
old time radio shows and foreign broadcast.... not so
much music

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[email protected] wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I most certainly do; via Pocket Tunes Deluxe. And this is with a
>> Treo 650, which is of course limited to CDMA 1x speeds. While not
>> hi-fi, the streams sound fine to me. If I had a 700p (still on the
>> fence about it), and in an EV-DO coverage area, I would have an even
>> larger stream selection to choose from, as I would be able to select
>> higher bitrate feeds.
>
> why are you on fence abt 700p?

For one thing, Sprint hasn't added EV-DO to my home area yet. While I do
travel a lot, I'm not thrilled about buying a device--whose primary
benefit over the one I currently have is EV-DO--that I cannot use EV-DO
with in my own city.

There also have been issues regarding speed (slower than the 650) and
compatibility with certain applications. Amazingly, the back speaker is
also lower in volume than the 650's (and I don't think the 650's is all
that great). On the bright side, it appears the handset speaker volume
is improved (IMO, the Treo 650 needs VolumeCare in order to achieve
acceptable volume).

Considering I have gotten to the point where my 650 is solid and running
well, I'm just not ready to toss/sell it and begin the process all over
again. I can at least wait till EV-DO comes to town (should be here by
the end of the year), which by then will have enough time for the 700p's
early bugs to be ironed out (hopefully).

I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a custom
ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with Pocket
Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I have
installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.


>
> Think you might go 700w?
>
> Going from palm to windows maybe?

Although I've gone back-and-forth between Palm and Windows CE, Palm-Size
PC, Pocket PC, Windows Mobile, and whatever they're calling it this
month, I don't see myself switching to a WM PDA phone at this point in
time. The Palm Treos, to *me*, seem better at one-handed operation (and
I'm not into voice command applications).

That being said, if I had to switch, my first choice would likely be the
700w, followed (distantly) by the 6700 (don't like slide-out keyboards).


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Mike

[email protected] wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I most certainly do; via Pocket Tunes Deluxe. And this is with a
>> Treo 650, which is of course limited to CDMA 1x speeds. While not
>> hi-fi, the streams sound fine to me. If I had a 700p (still on the
>> fence about it), and in an EV-DO coverage area, I would have an even
>> larger stream selection to choose from, as I would be able to select
>> higher bitrate feeds.
>
> do you listen to streaming radio thru built in Treo
> speaker?
>
> Or have separate headset?

The built-in back speaker is not really all that great. That said, I
have at times used it, particularly if it's only a talk feed.

Most of the time I use a Treo-compatible stereo headset w/mic, plus
answer button. This allows me to listen to music, as well as take phone
calls (music stops). I also use an app (HeadsetControl) that allows the
answer button on the headset to control Pocket Tunes (e.g., one short
press pauses music, one long press skips to the next track, two short
presses goes to the previous track, etc.).

This arrangement allows me to wear the (wired) stereo headset while
riding my motorcycle. I can easily control the music, as well
as--assuming it's safe to do so--answer calls (full-face helmet). I
listened to one stream for hours like this.


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On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:01:37 -0700, "Tinman"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>You don't have to "get it." The convergent design works just fine for
>the hundreds of thousands--if not millions by now--of Treo owners, not
>to mention the myriad of other smart/PDA phone owners.

I have to admit that I've never "gotten it" either, for the
reasons mentioned, and also because with the speed of technological
development, one of the two (or six) bundled components is bound to
become a dinosaur before the other, and then you're stuck with an old
appliance and new acquisition lust (which is a scourge).

But I have a question, just out of curiosity: doesn't the MP3
function run the battery down very quickly? My feeling has always been
that if I found myself in a burning building I'd be awfully
disappointed when my phone didn't work because I'd been listening to
music all day. That's probably just paranoia, but I am curious about
the effect on battery duration.

DGI

David G. Imber wrote:
>
> But I have a question, just out of curiosity: doesn't the MP3
> function run the battery down very quickly?

No. I don't leave the screen on while playing music, but during one test
it lasted a good 9 hours before I got tired of testing. And that was
before I purchased a high-capacity battery (2400 mAhs Vs. 1800--same
physical size as OEM). I should note that I didn't need the better
battery for music: by far the biggest drain is from using the phone for
voice calls, at least in my experience. Streaming will of course use
more battery-life than merely playing MP3s, but I've done it for hours
without issue.

That hi-cap battery left me with a spare battery, should I need it
(haven't needed to use it yet though).


> My feeling has always been
> that if I found myself in a burning building I'd be awfully
> disappointed when my phone didn't work because I'd been listening to
> music all day. That's probably just paranoia, but I am curious about
> the effect on battery duration.

That scenario makes it seem as if you won't have a clue about battery
life until it's too late. The reality is that the battery meter I use on
my Treo is much more detailed than the "meters" on any of the cellphones
I can remember using (I can display battery info by percentage of life
remaining, actual voltage, or the idiot-light-like icon seen on most
cellphones).


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Mike

"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a custom
>ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with Pocket
>Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I have
>installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.

Cool!

If and when EVDO comes to your town will the 700 be
able to detect it and use it automatically?

Will it be a seamless and cost-less thing to use EVDO?

"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a custom
>ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with Pocket
>Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I have
>installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.

Forgot to ask...who is your service provider? Sprint?

"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Although I've gone back-and-forth between Palm and Windows CE, Palm-Size
>PC, Pocket PC, Windows Mobile, and whatever they're calling it this
>month, I don't see myself switching to a WM PDA phone at this point in
>time. The Palm Treos, to *me*, seem better at one-handed operation (and
>I'm not into voice command applications).
>
>That being said, if I had to switch, my first choice would likely be the
>700w, followed (distantly) by the 6700 (don't like slide-out keyboards).

Thanks

Great info!

I think I'm gonna get the 700p unit but get it thru the
Sprint kiosk inside of Costco

Costco adds a lot of "value" to a new sprint
account.... I think

[email protected] wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a
>> custom ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with
>> Pocket Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I
>> have installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.
>
> Cool!
>
> If and when EVDO comes to your town will the 700 be
> able to detect it and use it automatically?

Absolutely. It'll use EV-DO if available, or 1x if that's all there is.


>
> Will it be a seamless and cost-less thing to use EVDO?

If you are a new Sprint subscriber, yes. The cheapest EV-DO (Power
Vision) package is the same price per month as 1x (Vision). If you want
more features (TV, Picture Mail, etc.) you can move up to either the $20
or $25 EV-DO plans. At $15 per month, Sprint's pricing is IMO a good
deal.


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Mike

[email protected] wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a
>> custom ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with
>> Pocket Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I
>> have installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.
>
> Forgot to ask...who is your service provider? Sprint?

What, you think I hang around this NG for the free beer?! ^_^

Seriously, I've been with Sprint for close to six years now.


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Mike

[email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]:

> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a custom
>>ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with Pocket
>>Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I have
>>installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.
>
> Cool!
>
> If and when EVDO comes to your town will the 700 be
> able to detect it and use it automatically?
>
> Will it be a seamless and cost-less thing to use EVDO?
>
The price on EVDO is awfull I now am without visin for the first time in
years

"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:4emam1F1fmgbgU1
@individual.net:

> [email protected] wrote:
>> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a
>>> custom ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with
>>> Pocket Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and I
>>> have installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.
>>
>> Cool!
>>
>> If and when EVDO comes to your town will the 700 be
>> able to detect it and use it automatically?
>
> Absolutely. It'll use EV-DO if available, or 1x if that's all there is.
>
>
>>
>> Will it be a seamless and cost-less thing to use EVDO?
>
> If you are a new Sprint subscriber, yes. The cheapest EV-DO (Power
> Vision) package is the same price per month as 1x (Vision). If you want
> more features (TV, Picture Mail, etc.) you can move up to either the $20
> or $25 EV-DO plans. At $15 per month, Sprint's pricing is IMO a good
> deal.
>
15 dollars a month basci, 20 dollars a month if you want picture mail. 25
dollars a month if you want extra TV channels ETC Did I mention noe of
these prics include text messages they are extra

skip wrote:
> [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a
>>> custom ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with
>>> Pocket Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and
>>> I have installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD cards.
>>
>> Cool!
>>
>> If and when EVDO comes to your town will the 700 be
>> able to detect it and use it automatically?
>>
>> Will it be a seamless and cost-less thing to use EVDO?
>>
> The price on EVDO is awfull I now am without visin for the first time
> in years

Then by all means please list a carrier who has better EV-DO pricing for
new customers.

I won't be holding my breath...


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Mike

skip wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:4emam1F1fmgbgU1
> @individual.net:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should note that I am "probably" a power user. I have created a
>>>> custom ROM for my Treo that is devoid of Real Player (replaced with
>>>> Pocket Tunes Deluxe) as well as other stuff I do not need. Oh, and
>>>> I have installed the FAT32 driver into ROM, so can use 4GB SD
>>>> cards.
>>>
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> If and when EVDO comes to your town will the 700 be
>>> able to detect it and use it automatically?
>>
>> Absolutely. It'll use EV-DO if available, or 1x if that's all there
>> is.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Will it be a seamless and cost-less thing to use EVDO?
>>
>> If you are a new Sprint subscriber, yes. The cheapest EV-DO (Power
>> Vision) package is the same price per month as 1x (Vision). If you
>> want more features (TV, Picture Mail, etc.) you can move up to
>> either the $20 or $25 EV-DO plans. At $15 per month, Sprint's
>> pricing is IMO a good deal.
>>
> 15 dollars a month basci, 20 dollars a month if you want picture
> mail. 25 dollars a month if you want extra TV channels ETC Did I
> mention noe of these prics include text messages they are extra

Does the other big EV-DO provider include SMS for no extra charge? Nope.

If you want to ***** about losing a grandfathered Vision plan, fine. But
you cannot claim Sprint's data pricing, for new subscribers, is high
compared to other providers.


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Mike

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Finally, I do stream audio content with my Treo. It might not be sat
>>radio, but I have literally hundreds of streams to choose from--and I
>>don't have to pay an additional monthly bill to receive them (nor do I
>>need a clear view of the sky). That doesn't mean I've turned my Treo
>>into a "mini satellite radio receiver." It just means I've chosen to use
>>it for this particular functionality, nothing more.
>
> Actually you've convinced me that Treo streaming music
> form the Net might be BETTER than a portable XM radio!

If you are an XM subscriber, you can listen to all the channels online.
However, I'm not sure this will work w/ Windows Mobile 5, but I' gonna give
it a shot!