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In article <[email protected]>, Inner Sanctum wrote:
>> And I've only lived here for a few years. I'm sure people who have
>> lived here longer would be even more offended.
>
> I find that comment amusing since many of the working class, hence drivers
> in California, are imports from across the US and all over the globe...

You're right, of course. I myself am one of those imports. I don't see
how that makes any difference with regards to what I said, though.


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In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

> My comments on selfish aren't derived from the lack of courteous driving
> habits in California.

That's fine. I just was extrapolating because that's where it sounded like
you got your data. And I'm sorry you have had bad experiences here. SoCal,
in particular, isn't a bad place to live.


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It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.

Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Yea, like Cape Cod is that much different from California. There is nothing
> wrong with BMWs on every corner and if they blow you off the road, then your
> car is too slow or you are holding-up traffic and driving like an old fogie
> on the way to the senior center. :-)
>
Dont forget with an earthquake you can lose everything you own is seconds

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:37:37 +0000, Steven J. Sobol wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T.
> Veldhouse wrote:
>
>> My comments on selfish aren't derived from the lack of courteous driving
>> habits in California.
>
> That's fine. I just was extrapolating because that's where it sounded like
> you got your data. And I'm sorry you have had bad experiences here. SoCal,
> in particular, isn't a bad place to live.

I'm just a little ol' grit-eating southern driver (NC). I got along just
fine with the drivers in Los Angeles. It was a total catharsis. I came
back home refreshed and able to live another year! lol. the sprint phone
worked great out there, too.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Steven J. Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>
>>> I found people in California, in general, to only care about themselves, other
>>> people be damned. It was especially prominent in the South Bay area near San
>>> Francisco. Lots of BMWs on every corner in Mountain View and each and every
>>> one of them trying to blow you off the road to get somewhere they didn't even
>>> need to be.
>>
>> Many drivers in California, especially here in SoCal, are obnoxious like that.
>> Regardless, I find your statement to be an obnoxious, overly-broad, and
>> patently inaccurate generalization. "Crappy driver" doesn't necessarily mean
>> "selfish in all other aspects of life."
>>
>
>My comments on selfish aren't derived from the lack of courteous driving
>habits in California. It derives from my experience with people there.
>Nobody smiles when you see them on the street. The only smiles you get are
>from wait staff hoping for a tip. When I was there, the people just seemed
>like they all lived in their own little anonymous bubble with no concern about
>the people around them. Northern California is beautiful; one of the most
>beautiful places to live in the country, but I am not so sure I like the life
>style.

Thomas,

I have to agree with you about the attitude of the folks our here..
I'm a Detroit native but I've lved in CA for nearly 20 years (8 in
Orange County, 10 in the Bay Area and 2 our here in the Sacramento
Area).
>
>> And I've only lived here for a few years. I'm sure people who have lived
>> here longer would be even more offended.

I'm not offended - sometime the truth is a bit painful, but it is
still the truth.

>
>I am speaking strictly from my perception of the people that I met while
>working out there, which was for nearly two months in 2003. You know, the
>only native that I ran into that showed any interest in the people around him
>was a guy working at the Enterprise Rent-A-Car depot in SFO; the poor guy was
>a Dot.Com reject and seemed much happier doing what he is doing now rather
>than what he did previously.
>
>Now, Texas ... that is a state with people full of personality and sociable
>conscience.

I lived in Houston for 5 years before moving to CA - there are many
times I wonder why I left (and I am seriously looking at moving back
there).

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

"William H. Bowen" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> I lived in Houston for 5 years before moving to CA - there are many
> times I wonder why I left (and I am seriously looking at moving back
> there).

THE HUMIDITY!!!

Notan

"Sky" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]...
> Dont forget with an earthquake you can lose everything you own is seconds

Which is why I have earthquake insurance.
Note that annual hurricane, flood and tornado losses run much higher than
earthquake losses, to say nothing of loss from lightning and snow and ice storms.

--
John Richards

"Notan" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "William H. Bowen" wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I lived in Houston for 5 years before moving to CA - there are many
>> times I wonder why I left (and I am seriously looking at moving back
>> there).
>
> THE HUMIDITY!!!

Yep, the scourge of much of the South, east coast, and Midwest.

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John Richards

In article <[email protected]>, William H Bowen wrote:

> I'm not offended - sometime the truth is a bit painful, but it is
> still the truth.

You're both posting about Norcal. I'm posting about Socal. Maybe there is
a significant difference. Or maybe there isn't and I just am not noticing
that people down here are rude.


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Notan <[email protected]> wrote:

>"William H. Bowen" wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I lived in Houston for 5 years before moving to CA - there are many
>> times I wonder why I left (and I am seriously looking at moving back
>> there).
>
>THE HUMIDITY!!!
>
>Notan

Yeh, you've got a point there. Outside in the summer there is like
living inside a sauna bath.

Bill

P.S. Gets hotter than the far corner of Hell here (Sacramento) in the
summer, but humidity is around 10%.

"Steven J. Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, William H Bowen wrote:
>
>> I'm not offended - sometime the truth is a bit painful, but it is
>> still the truth.
>
>You're both posting about Norcal. I'm posting about Socal. Maybe there is
>a significant difference. Or maybe there isn't and I just am not noticing
>that people down here are rude.

Steve,

You live out in the boonies - it is different in the heavily
populated area. When I lived in Orange County (Garden Grove and
Huntington Beach) I sometimes felt that driving was like flying with
kamakazi pilots.

Northern CA is the same - out in Yolo or Placer County things are a
lot less crazy than they are in Sacramento.

Bill

"William H. Bowen" wrote:
>
> Notan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >"William H. Bowen" wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> I lived in Houston for 5 years before moving to CA - there are many
> >> times I wonder why I left (and I am seriously looking at moving back
> >> there).
> >
> >THE HUMIDITY!!!
> >
> >Notan
>
> Yeh, you've got a point there. Outside in the summer there is like
> living inside a sauna bath.
>
> Bill
>
> P.S. Gets hotter than the far corner of Hell here (Sacramento) in the
> summer, but humidity is around 10%.

Mrs. Notan's from Houston (actually Spring).

During one visit, I remember taking a shower and NEVER drying off.

(Not a towel problem, a HUMIDITY problem! <g>)

Notan

In article <[email protected]>, William H Bowen wrote:

> You live out in the boonies - it is different in the heavily
> populated area. When I lived in Orange County (Garden Grove and
> Huntington Beach) I sometimes felt that driving was like flying with
> kamakazi pilots.

> Northern CA is the same - out in Yolo or Placer County things are a
> lot less crazy than they are in Sacramento.

Drivers in San Bernardino County, including down the hill as well as
here in the High Desert, are nutjobs too. There are plenty of homocidal
maniacs driving in this area. 1/2 :-)

I was referring to Thomas's experiences with people being rude in general,
not specifically while driving.

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Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.

"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in
news[email protected]:

> "Sky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>> Dont forget with an earthquake you can lose everything you own is
>> seconds
>
> Which is why I have earthquake insurance.
> Note that annual hurricane, flood and tornado losses run much higher
> than earthquake losses, to say nothing of loss from lightning and snow
> and ice storms.
>

Funny thing I have been thru several blizzards and still have my home just
a lot of cleaning. We get a hurricane once every 10 years or so and still
no lossed as we have time to prepare. I have never seen a tornsado.

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

> and overpriced real estate, both of which California bosts an abundance.

It's coming down in price by the week. In the city where I live, you can
now buy a two bedroom condo for under $700,000. A year ago, these condos
would have sold for $900,000.