Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:45a43bd3$0$68974
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
>
>

Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

Larry wrote:
> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

are you sure the iPhone can't play mp3s? All the other iPods can play
mp3s, so I don't see why the iPhone wouldn't. I think only the first
generation iPods couldn't play mp3s.

In article <Xns98B46B96C0FBnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

It's also an iPod, stupid.

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>>>
>>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
>>
>>
>> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g
>
>Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
>HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
>said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
>higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
>but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.

Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.

They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
model isn't clear yet.

On 10 Jan 2007 03:20:09 GMT, Sven Golly <sven_medelsvensson@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"P.Schuman" <pschuman_nospam_me@interserv.com> wrote in news:%bToh.57951
>$qO4.45769@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net:
>
>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>
>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>
>I'll be interested to see how that touch screen holds up in actual real
>world customer use. Cold. Damp. Heat. Hand lotion. Fingernails. Purses.
>Mink lined gloveboxes. Old pizza cartons.


Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
Sales.

"Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote in news:1168421277.372151.207030
@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> are you sure the iPhone can't play mp3s? All the other iPods can play
> mp3s, so I don't see why the iPhone wouldn't. I think only the first
> generation iPods couldn't play mp3s.
>
>
>

Doesn't the loader software for the ipod convert MP3s to Ipoditis? Isn't
that why you can't just load it on there with Win Explorer and punch play?

Per karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net:
>
>Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
>Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
>Sales.

I wonder.... Certainly my 60-gig iPod's screen is quite badly scratched up after
less than a year's use - and it's never been in a pocket, always in the belt
carrier or a charging stand.
--
PeteCresswell

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:24:33 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote:

>Per karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net:
>>
>>Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
>>Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
>>Sales.
>
>I wonder.... Certainly my 60-gig iPod's screen is quite badly scratched up after
>less than a year's use - and it's never been in a pocket, always in the belt
>carrier or a charging stand.


Should have spent a few bucks for a screen protector. I use them on my
cell phones, and they then end up looking like new after 2 years when
I sell them on eBay.

<karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
> Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.
>

My Blackberry Pearl does Google Maps, what's the big deal?

> Doesn't the loader software for the ipod convert MP3s to Ipoditis? Isn't
> that why you can't just load it on there with Win Explorer and punch play?

No.

- WMA files must be converted to AAC
- You have the OPTION of downsampling music to 128bps AAC, but this is to
enable you to fit more songs

You can definitely play native MP3s on all current iPods.

So does the Treo 700P - and on Spritns fast network.

The Treo does everything the Ipod phone does - except that the
earpiece jack is real flimsy.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:29 -0600, "ABC" <nospam@swbell.net> wrote:

>
><karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:9lq9q2h7grk73gmakcg9v41rli8bv7629f@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
>> phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
>> Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.
>>
>
>My Blackberry Pearl does Google Maps, what's the big deal?
>

> Name another phone that does Google Maps.

Treo 700p

At 10 Jan 2007 00:37:54 -0500 Larry wrote:

> I see it says it also does wifi. It will be interesting to see how
> Cingular is going to hobble that up to force you to use their $network$.
>

They won't. Despite your constant cell-phone provider bad-mouthing,
Cingular (unlike Verizon) doesn't generally cripple phones in any
significant way- their wi-fi equipped Windows Mobile smartphones aren't
crippled at all, and I've found even their low-end phones I've used to
have most configuration options in them.

Now, like virtually every carrier, they do tend to ADD a bit of fluff and
name-branding (i.e. the web-browser menu function might be renamed
"MEDia" to match the Cingular marketing term for the function) and a low-
end Nokia I bought from them and unlocked had a ringtone/wallpaper-buying
option on the main top-level menu while more useful features were several
levels deeper.

But no, the iPhone will not be crippled in any way, and I predict it will
do good things for my (very small amount of) AT&T stock... ;-)



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karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
\
> They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
> on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
> model isn't clear yet.

Hopefully this is the case. I'd advise waiting for the 3G version, even
if it ends up being more expensive, but the price points of this device
are not going to hold up at $500 and $600.

ZDNet wrote:

"Although we're pleased Apple made it a quad-band (GSM
850/900/1800/1900) world phone, we're disappointed the iPhone's data
support tops out at 2.5G EDGE networks. Considering the
multimedia-friendly feature set, the omission of any 3G compatibility is
a bit bizarre, particularly since Cingular now offers UMTS and HSDPA."

If you look at the device as an OSx web pad/iPod/PDA, the price isn't
excessive, it's when you think of it as a phone on one of the worst
carriers in the U.S., that it seems expensive.

P.Schuman wrote:
>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>
> It's listed as a GSM device,
> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.

I was in BJ's, next to Apple's campus in Cupertino, about six months ago
and I overheard some Apple people talking about the iPhone, and Verizon.
They had pitched it to Verizon, but Verizon made some unacceptable demands:

1. Bluetooth needed to be disabled, except for the headset.
2. Music could only be downloaded from Verizon's music service
3. WiFi would be disabled anytime the device detected Verizon's network
4. The OS would have to be Windows Embedded
5. Every photo taken would have to be immediately transferred across
Verizon's network
6. No roaming onto any non-Verizon CDMA network, even at extra cost