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Old 01-09-2007, 01:47 PM   #1
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Apple iPhone is GSM



> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>

It's listed as a GSM device,
so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.




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Old 01-09-2007, 01:57 PM   #2
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:47:55 GMT, "P.Schuman"
<pschuman_nospam_me@interserv.com> wrote:

>
>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>

>It's listed as a GSM device,
>so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>



It's quad band so in theory you could get it unlocked and use it with
T-Mobile.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:16 PM   #3
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Per P.Schuman:
>http://www.apple.com/iphone/


Did I overlook something or is the PDA function missing?
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:21 PM   #4
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Cyrus Afzali wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:47:55 GMT, "P.Schuman"
> <pschuman_nospam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>

>>
>>It's listed as a GSM device,
>>so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>>

>
> Strictly speaking, it's not only for Cingular; they're just getting it
> first. I'm sure T-Mobile will have it too once the exclusivity period
> runs out. You can also likely look for different technology versions
> so it will work with other carriers.
>


Jobs said they developed their new phone with, and for, Cingular which,
he said, is the best carrier with the most subscribers. He said that
Cingular and Apple will continue to work together to innovate with this
phone and other ideas.

He also said that they are changing the name of the company from Apple
Computer to Apple, Inc. because they are no longer just a computer company.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:42 PM   #5
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:16:55 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote:

>Per P.Schuman:
>>http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>
>Did I overlook something or is the PDA function missing?



Take a look at http://www.apple.com/iphone/
and tell me what PDA function you think is missing.
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:28 PM   #6
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<karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:16:55 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Per P.Schuman:
>>>http://www.apple.com/iphone/

>>
>>Did I overlook something or is the PDA function missing?

>
>
> Take a look at http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> and tell me what PDA function you think is missing.


It runs OSX so whatever PIM functions (or ANY functions really) you could
run on your Mac you could run on this (in theory, we won't know till June I
guess).

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Old 01-09-2007, 04:38 PM   #7
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P.Schuman wrote:
>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>

> It's listed as a GSM device,
> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.


The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:53 PM   #8
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>P.Schuman wrote:
>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>

>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.

>
>The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.



Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:05 PM   #9
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karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>>
>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.

>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.

>
>
> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g


Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
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Old 01-09-2007, 07:32 PM   #10
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In article <45a43bd3$0$68974$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> P.Schuman wrote:
> >>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> >>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >>>>
> >>> It's listed as a GSM device,
> >>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
> >> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.

> >
> >
> > Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g

>
> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.


During the presentation it was mentioned that there will be 3G support
though no timetable was given. Not due until june, a lot could change
between now and then.
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Old 01-09-2007, 07:46 PM   #11
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<karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >P.Schuman wrote:
> >>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> >>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >>>
> >> It's listed as a GSM device,
> >> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.

> >
> >The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.

>
>
> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g



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Old 01-09-2007, 07:47 PM   #12
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<karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > >
> >The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.

>

yeah - that's what originally clued me into it being on Cingular.


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Old 01-09-2007, 08:21 PM   #13
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In article <ru2b12-0A327A.21320809012007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
ru2b12 <ru2b12@nomayo.com> wrote:

> In article <45a43bd3$0$68974$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> P.Schuman wrote:
> > >>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> > >>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> > >>>>
> > >>> It's listed as a GSM device,
> > >>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
> > >> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g

> >
> > Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> > HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> > said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> > higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> > but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.

>
> During the presentation it was mentioned that there will be 3G support
> though no timetable was given. Not due until june, a lot could change
> between now and then.


I think waiting a few months to same how this all sorts out is what's in
order anyway. Thankfully (I guess) my Cingular contract prevents me from
doing any upgrading for a few months.

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Old 01-09-2007, 09:26 PM   #14
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On 2007-01-10, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>>>
>>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.

>>
>>
>> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g

>
> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.


They can sell the current phone in Europe too; all the features they
have work there as well. 3G support on the phone is valueless in Europe,
however, unless the phone also supports 2100 MHz, and a 5-band phone is a
problem no manufacturer has tackled yet.

Maybe they're leaving that for their next trick. I can't imagine this
phone will remain at $600 forever (the first RAZR I saw, in Hong Kong,
well before Cingular began to sell them, was US$1000).

Dennis Ferguson
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:37 PM   #15
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karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote in
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> and tell me what PDA function you think is missing.
>


I see it says it also does wifi. It will be interesting to see how
Cingular is going to hobble that up to force you to use their $network$.

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