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Old 11-06-2007, 10:24 PM   #46
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Oxford wrote:
> IBM had to exit the PC market because Apple was just too powerful


Sorry Apply Fanboy, your "facts" don't stand up to scrutiny.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_compatible

The declining influence of IBM
Since 1981, IBM PC compatibles have grown to dominate both the home and
business markets of commodity computers, with the only notable
alternative architecture being the Apple Macintosh computers (which
comprise around 4% of shipping PCs). However, IBM itself lost the
leadership role in the market for IBM PC compatibles by 1990.

- it was the IBM clones that killed off the IBM PC, NOT Apple.


From:http://blog.wired.com/wiredphotos6/2...5150_pers.html

The 10 Gadgets That Changed the World
Apple often gets credit for starting the personal computer revolution,
but the Macintosh, which debuted in 1984, was not the original
mass-market PC. On Aug. 12, 1981, IBM launched the 5150 and changed home
and office life forever.


From: http://www.wowdailynews.com/pegasus/total_share.html

Personal Computer Market Share: 1975-2004

- Look at the numbers and charts. Apple doesn't seem to make much of a
splash.

> No, I only use facts, it helps that way. Try it sometime.


HAHAHAHAHAHHHA


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Old 11-07-2007, 09:19 AM   #47
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Ness Net wrote:
>
> "§" <tdstr@foadspammer.com> wrote in message
> news:13j1io517d2ia4d@corp.supernews.com...
>> Oxford wrote:
>>> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - it was the IBM clones that killed off the IBM PC, NOT Apple.
>>>
>>> ah, but you don't understand your history. the Macintosh User
>>> Interface is what eventually wiped out IBM. IBM of 1981 was DOS/CPM
>>> based, the Mac came on very strong in 1984, now everyone in the world
>>> uses it. Thus IBM had to exit the market because Apple's influence
>>> was too strong.
>>>

>>
>> I love Apple and always will, but here your full of ****. Then again,
>> most trolls are.

>
> Hey Oxford..... take note.
> Even a fellow Apple person is calling it as it really is.
>
> Oxford (and whatever sock puppet) = TROLL
> Oxford (and whatever sock puppet) = "full of ****"
>
> Face it bucko - you have an audience of ONE - (you) who believe your crap.
> ALL the rest think you are a complete and total loon.
>
> Get a clue you moron. You spew total bull**** and now have LESS than zero
> credibility. You could now actually post something factual, but the fact
> that YOU
> (or one of your sock puppets) posted it - automatically makes it highly
> suspect.
> If it's not written off as more fanatic fanboy stupidity - from a PROVEN
> idiot.
>


Now now, let's stop feeding the trolls and then hopefully the trolls
will starve to death and then this group(vzw) will go back to *normal*.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:55 PM   #48
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["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.sprintpcs.]
On 2007-11-07, Cyrus Afzali <pnsmnyv@lnubb.pbz> wrote:

> Xerox was never in the computing business, primarily


Nope. In fact, one of the computers the Mac/Lisa were based on was the Xerox
Star, which was NOT a general-purpose computer, it was a desktop publishing/
page layout workstation. I had the opportunity to play around with one
several years ago; it was quite impressive.


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Old 11-14-2007, 01:34 AM   #49
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In article
<colalovesmacs-606444.13571206112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:

> Oh yes, I remember. Starting in 1986 you could plug in a standard
> Ethernet Card to any Mac, but I think you forget ethernet cards at the
> time were $700 on up. AppleTalk/LocalTalk was $50 or less and provide
> quite a bit of speed for the money.


What was a 'standard' Ethernet card?
Almost every model of Mac had Ethernet built in already.
Until the later PPC years, Macs were using NuBus cards, not ISA.
Ethernet didn't have just one plug type, either -- there were several
common types before the RJ-45 became ubiquitous.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:01 PM   #50
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Does anyone else here think that Oxfart needs to go home and shoot himself
in the head and put us our of his misery? He is too stupid to exist.


"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-14C45A.12494406112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>> Oxford wrote:
>> > IBM had to exit the PC market because Apple was just too powerful



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Old 11-15-2007, 01:34 PM   #51
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Edgar wrote:
> Does anyone else here think that Oxfart needs to go home and shoot himself
> in the head and put us our of his misery? He is too stupid to exist.


That would be a waste of a good bullet. There's a shortage of lead, and
ammo is getting expensive ($23 for 50 rounds of 9x18 Makarov! It was
$7.50 no long ago...).

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Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:34 PM   #52
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At 15 Nov 2007 13:01:08 -0600 Edgar wrote:
> Does anyone else here think that Oxfart needs to go home and shoot

himself
> in the head and put us our of his misery?


Nahh.

> He is too stupid to exist.


So were the Three Stooges. Think of the lost entertainment value if we
lost Oxy.


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Old 11-17-2007, 02:00 AM   #53
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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> Nokia is most at risk, expect them to fade away in 10-15 years.
> > There is no way they can compete against Apple, they just don't have the
> > resources to build fine quality, tiny phones. they just don't have the
> > experience or depth of knowledge that Apple has in this area.

>
> Are you on crack?
>
> One of the first phones I ever carried was a Nokia 100 AMPS handset.
>
> That was in 1995.
>
> That'd be twelve years ago.
>
> Apple just started manufacturing phones.... exactly when?


Apple was founded on Phones, here is one of their earliest models.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B..._in_museum.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box

So Apple has about 10 more years experience than Nokia in the Biz, and
100's of lifetimes more talent.

http://www.iphone.com/
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:57 AM   #54
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Oxford <linuxlovesosx@supersmart.com> wrote in
news:linuxlovesosx-0D04D2.02003317112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
>> Nokia is most at risk, expect them to fade away in 10-15 years.
>> > There is no way they can compete against Apple, they just don't
>> > have the resources to build fine quality, tiny phones. they just
>> > don't have the experience or depth of knowledge that Apple has in
>> > this area.

>>
>> Are you on crack?
>>
>> One of the first phones I ever carried was a Nokia 100 AMPS handset.
>>
>> That was in 1995.
>>
>> That'd be twelve years ago.
>>
>> Apple just started manufacturing phones.... exactly when?

>
> Apple was founded on Phones, here is one of their earliest models.
>


And yet they have just marketed their first commercial product. They must
hire retards and morons if it takes them so long to go to market with a
product.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:21 AM   #55
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In news:linuxlovesosx-0D04D2.02003317112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net,
Oxford <linuxlovesosx@supersmart.com> typed:
> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
>> Nokia is most at risk, expect them to fade away in 10-15 years.
>>> There is no way they can compete against Apple, they just don't have the
>>> resources to build fine quality, tiny phones. they just don't have the
>>> experience or depth of knowledge that Apple has in this area.

>>
>> Are you on crack?
>>
>> One of the first phones I ever carried was a Nokia 100 AMPS handset.
>>
>> That was in 1995.
>>
>> That'd be twelve years ago.
>>
>> Apple just started manufacturing phones.... exactly when?

>
> Apple was founded on Phones, here is one of their earliest models.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B..._in_museum.jpg
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box
>
> So Apple has about 10 more years experience than Nokia in the Biz, and
> 100's of lifetimes more talent.
>
> http://www.iphone.com/


Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs did not invent the Blue Box.
All they did was build and sell the device to people who wanted to make long
distance calls and not pay for them.
Here is a link to a 1971 article on the inventor of the Blue Box.
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/esq-art.html



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Old 11-17-2007, 09:27 AM   #56
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Oxford wrote:
> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
>> Nokia is most at risk, expect them to fade away in 10-15 years.
>>> There is no way they can compete against Apple, they just don't have the
>>> resources to build fine quality, tiny phones. they just don't have the
>>> experience or depth of knowledge that Apple has in this area.

>> Are you on crack?
>>
>> One of the first phones I ever carried was a Nokia 100 AMPS handset.
>>
>> That was in 1995.
>>
>> That'd be twelve years ago.
>>
>> Apple just started manufacturing phones.... exactly when?

>
> Apple was founded on Phones, here is one of their earliest models.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B..._in_museum.jpg
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box
>
> So Apple has about 10 more years experience than Nokia in the Biz, and
> 100's of lifetimes more talent.
>
> http://www.iphone.com/

Apple did NOT make that, it was a device that the Apple founders used to
PRANK CALL PEOPLE.

I hardly find that mature.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:04 AM   #57
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"Oxford" <linuxlovesosx@supersmart.com> wrote in message
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>>

> Apple was founded on Phones, here is one of their earliest models.
>


Apple was "founded" on federal crime - is that your final answer?
Are you contending that the boys built and retailed blue boxes?

Second time today you post complete crap and are (as always) wrong.


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