Re: Sprint offers $90 unlimited voice, $100 including text messaging

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:30:16 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> wrote in news:47ca1727$0$19527
>$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com:
>
>> Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
>>> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
>>> like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
>>> plan...
>>
>> Sprint charges $60 for unlimited WWAN access (e.g. with an Aircard), so
>> there is no reason to pay $100 for it. Since the unlimited plan is
>> locked to one cellphone number, it's not possible to game the system by
>> using the Card and a phone on the same plan.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
>Wow...That's kinda high! I'm paying Verizon $25/mo for EVDO to my Nokia
>N800 from the ROKR Z6m as a BT modem. $60 is over DOUBLE!
>
>The trouble with Aircards is you have to buy another phone number you can't
>use for anything plus pay for broadband. It's a scam.
>
>Plug your sellphone into your laptop or bluetooth it....much cheaper! Just
>buy unlimited data service, which I think Sprint also sells for around
>$25/mo more than the sellphone bill.
>
>You can also use it for the crappy stuff on the phone, if you like.
>
>
So you went running from the Alltel group over here now, huh Larry?
Get over everybody telling you what an idiot you were being the last
time you around a few weeks ago?

Maybe time to crawl back under that rock, huh Larry?

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> wrote in news:47ca1727$0$19527
>$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com:
>
>> Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
>>> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
>>> like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
>>> plan...
>>
>> Sprint charges $60 for unlimited WWAN access (e.g. with an Aircard), so
>> there is no reason to pay $100 for it. Since the unlimited plan is
>> locked to one cellphone number, it's not possible to game the system by
>> using the Card and a phone on the same plan.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>
>Wow...That's kinda high! I'm paying Verizon $25/mo for EVDO to my Nokia
>N800 from the ROKR Z6m as a BT modem. $60 is over DOUBLE!

Unlimited PAM on a phone or Palm is $39.95. Remember too - on Sprint,
if you already have PowerVision, the PowerVision charge goes away if
you order unlimited PAM (the unlimited data charge covers PAM AND what
the phone itself uses).
>
>The trouble with Aircards is you have to buy another phone number you can't
>use for anything plus pay for broadband. It's a scam.

WRONG!!!!! The $59.95 (plus the taxes and the other normal crap) is
all you pay for service with an AirCard. Only additional is if you
have insurance on the card ($7.00/month).
>
>Plug your sellphone into your laptop or bluetooth it....much cheaper! Just
>buy unlimited data service, which I think Sprint also sells for around
>$25/mo more than the sellphone bill.

AirCards do have advantages. As of this point none of the phones do
EVDO Rev A, so the throughput on the AirCard is higher. Comparing PAM
with my Palm 755P VS my boss's AirCard 595U on the same laptop and the
same area the AirCard max. data rate is about 2X the Palm.
>
>You can also use it for the crappy stuff on the phone, if you like.

Nothing crappy about the web browser on the newer Palms or
Blackberrys. The other stuff such as IM works well too (the real
limitation is user interaction because of the limited keyboards VS a
regular Computer.

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:16:26 -0800, Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>Scott in SoCal wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
>>> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
>>> like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
>>> plan...
>>
>>Sprint charges $60 for unlimited WWAN access (e.g. with an Aircard), so
>>there is no reason to pay $100 for it. Since the unlimited plan is
>>locked to one cellphone number, it's not possible to game the system by
>>using the Card and a phone on the same plan.
>
>In that case, they had better tell Sierra Wireless to stop putting
>those headset jacks into their AirCards. The one I have is capable of
>making voice calls just like a regular voice handset.

Scott,

On Sprint, unless you have that data card attached to a voice plan
voice calls will cost you $0.20/minute.

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

Larry wrote:
> Wow...That's kinda high! I'm paying Verizon $25/mo for EVDO to my Nokia
> N800 from the ROKR Z6m as a BT modem. $60 is over DOUBLE!
>
> The trouble with Aircards is you have to buy another phone number you can't
> use for anything plus pay for broadband. It's a scam.

If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
it isn't.

> Plug your sellphone into your laptop or bluetooth it....much cheaper! Just
> buy unlimited data service, which I think Sprint also sells for around
> $25/mo more than the sellphone bill.

You're thinking of the Sprint data plan that is $59 per month and the
plan is expressly designed for laptop access. Tethering a phone is
against the TOS.

"Liberal's HATE America!!" <GoHillary@1yah3.edu> wrote:

>
>"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>news:47c6e38c$0$36351$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net.. .
>> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>
>> "Sprint Nextel said it would begin offering unlimited voice and data
>> service usage for $99.99 per month."
>
>Well since Sprint is the worst carrier on Earth, by far, this won't help
>them much.

And on what do you base that statement? Your own experience, coverage,
customer service or ?? Worst compared to??

I'll grant you that the coverage by each carrier in a particular area
may not be as good as another carrier, and I'll also inform you that
AT&T and Verizon, as the older carriers going back to the AMPS days of
the '80s, have an advantage in that they where able to nail down sites
before the NIMBY opposition and the "we'll all die from radio waves"
scare mongering started up in the '90s. The 1800/1900 MHz PCS spectrum
auction (the spectrum T-Mobile & Sprint use) did not happen until 1995
and the systems where not sited until a couple of years later. I know
- I was working for Bell South in those days.

All that having been said, I've been in many areas where my Sprint
phone works and my girlfriend's Verizon phone is in Roam.

Be careful when you make branket statements - some might light that
blanket up )

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

On 2008-03-03, William H Bowen <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>>The trouble with Aircards is you have to buy another phone number you can't
>>use for anything plus pay for broadband. It's a scam.
>
> WRONG!!!!!

Larry has never used Sprint, so anything he says about Sprint's policies can
basically be ignored.


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DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:

> If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
> maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
> it isn't.
>
>

I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
plugged into a sellphone can't?

Please don't tell me you can use the aircard as a sellphone if you plug a
headset into the side of your computer....please. That's a joke!

Larry wrote:
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
> @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
>> maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
>> it isn't.
>
> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
> plugged into a sellphone can't?

How many Verizon and Sprint phones are running CDMA Rev A at the moment?

On Mar 3, 1:33*am, DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
> > @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
> >> If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
> >> maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
> >> it isn't.
>
> > I'll bite. *What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
> > plugged into a sellphone can't?
>
> How many Verizon and Sprint phones are running CDMA Rev A at the moment?

BTW Blackberry users must pay $20 more to Sprint each month for this
'unlimited' feature since it costs Sprint if they use the Blackberry
servers, ie unlimited BB is $119 at Sprint.

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:33:43 GMT, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:

>Larry wrote:
>> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
>> @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>> If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
>>> maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
>>> it isn't.
>>
>> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
>
>How many Verizon and Sprint phones are running CDMA Rev A at the moment?

Don't bother responding to Larry...surely you've been told not to fee
the trolls?

Larry <noone@home.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:Xns9A56D36C5054noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:

> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
> @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
>> maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
>> it isn't.
>>
>>
>
> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
> plugged into a sellphone can't?

Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.

>
> Please don't tell me you can use the aircard as a sellphone if you
> plug a headset into the side of your computer....please. That's a
> joke!
>
>

And why would it be a joke?

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in news:Xns9A56C1DC5CC77bob@216.196.97.136:

>> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
>
> Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.
>

What the hell kind of answer is that? Sprint doesn't allow tethering? You
need a new carrier!

Larry <noone@home.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:Xns9A56EAAE6697noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9A56C1DC5CC77bob@216.196.97.136:
>
>>> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a
>>> laptop plugged into a sellphone can't?
>>
>> Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.
>>
>
> What the hell kind of answer is that?

The correct one.

> Sprint doesn't allow tethering?

A well documented scenario.

> You need a new carrier!

Why? Where did I say that I carry a Sprint phone?

>
>

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in news:Xns9A56C1DC5CC77bob@216.196.97.136:
>
>>> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
>>
>> Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.
>>
>
>What the hell kind of answer is that? Sprint doesn't allow tethering? You
>need a new carrier!

Yes, they do. You just have to pay for it. They call it Phone As
Modem (PAM).

Jack Hamilton <jfh@acm.org> amazed us all with the following in
news:2ukps39bb5u4l78mqu8o9krq1ognghh08l@4ax.com:

> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote in
>>news:Xns9A56C1DC5CC77bob@216.196.97.136:
>>
>>>> I'll bite. What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a
>>>> laptop plugged into a sellphone can't?
>>>
>>> Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.
>>>
>>
>>What the hell kind of answer is that? Sprint doesn't allow tethering?
>> You need a new carrier!
>
> Yes, they do. You just have to pay for it. They call it Phone As
> Modem (PAM).
>
>

That would be correct. I stand corrected in my statement,