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  1. #16
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Unofficial Sprint Mogul ROM 3.49, WM 6.1, threaded SMS

    At 15 May 2008 14:01:19 -0500 AZ Nomad wrote:

    > >Installing a new browser doesn't solve the problem as much as it

    sidesteps
    > >it.


    > It solves it. There is no sidesteping.



    Again, I would agree IF all phones running IE Mobile exhibited the problem,
    but they don't. Just a very small number. Where I come from, that's
    called a "bug." Ignoring the bug by using different software isn't fixing
    the bug. That's a sidestep, IMO.

    > >Other models of phone, running essentially the same browser don't have
    > >the same problem. I find that interesting.


    > not really.


    You mean YOU don't find it interesting. Fair enough. Your lack of
    interest is noted, yet you're apparently interested enough to complain
    about Roger not following your advice, or anyone trying to deduce the
    problem.

    > >If it won't render a simple mobile site, who knows what else it can't

    render.

    > Who knows? Who cares? Maybe you should write a book about it. Devote
    > the rest of your life to catalog every single ****ing web application that
    > doesn't work on one particular version of one particular browser on one
    > particular system runing one particular operating system.



    But that's just it- THAT'S not the case if you've read the entire
    (apparently uninteresting) thread- the SAME VERSION of the SAME BROWSER on
    the SAME OS behaves differently on different models of phone. Again, where
    I grew up, we call that a bug.


    > I don't see what the problem is. If you have one website that your main

    browser
    > can't handle, yet you have a different browser that'll handle it then the
    > problem is solved. Completely.


    True. Arguably, he could also just bin the phone, switch providers, and
    buy a new one. Alternatively, he could forsake all electronics and
    technonogy, build a log cabin in the woods, and live off the land. There
    are many solutions- and yours is certainly an easy one. (Roger's was also
    easy- bookmark the Google reformatted page and use that, which is also a
    sidestep.)

    > Make a note to check future versions of your
    > main browser, perhaps, but get on with your ****ing life.


    Christ, it's just an intellectual exercise, not my life's work. I enjoy
    the odd bit of troubleshooting and problem solving- it keeps the mind
    sharp. Some people play sudoku... One evening recently when I had nothing
    better to do, I tried to figure out why my son's recently-upgraded-to-Vista
    PC no longer played dialog sounds in two of his RPG games (from the same
    vendor- ironically Microsoft), but still played music and sound effects
    even though ALL game sounds (those that worked and those that didn't) were
    just 128k bitrate MP3s, and all played just fine under XP. The dialog
    clips that wouldn't play in the game also wouldn't play in WMP.

    To troubleshoot, I e-mailed a few to myself and discovered they'd play in
    WMP in EVERY other PC in the house- whether XP or Vista and even on my PPC
    phone. I played with different audio drivers, adding/removing codecs,
    analyzed with GSpot and graphedit for awhile, but by hour #3, I threw in
    the towel and sidestepped. (Even I will only waste so much time on a
    purely intellectual exercise!) I sidestepped by batch re-encoding all of
    the dialog files for both games to .wma and back to .mp3 and they now
    worked- whatever the PC didn't like about original files was obliterated by
    the re-encoding.. I saved the original versions in case I ever want to
    "reopen the case" (unlikely unless we run into more .mp3s or games that
    refuse to play.)

    > Do you see people complaining that they can't find any decent cars that

    can do
    > 0-60 in under 5 seconds, seat ten, get 50mpg, and haul the contents of a

    4000
    > square foot house?
    >
    > No. There are specialized vehicles and nobody is stupid enough to
    > expect one particular model to do everything. Ditto for web browsers.



    Yes, but if your red sports car did 0-60 in 5 seconds, and my blue one with
    the same body, engine, and transmission, did it in 20, I'd consider mine
    defective. The issue isn't that "IE Mobile" itself can't render a
    particular WAP page, but that HIS copy of it can't, where virtually all
    others, older, newer and the same, can. At the risk of repeating myself,
    that's a bug, and Microsoft, HTC, and/or Sprint shouldn't be let off the
    hook just because an alternate browser is available.

    Where we ARE in agreement is that the issue is only worth so much time
    worrying about. We just differ in how MUCH time! Sadly, you and I have
    spent/wasted more time debating the merits of it than anyone has spent
    trying to troubleshoot it.


    If Roger is still reading, at this point, I'm drawing a blank, and since I
    have no device it doesn't work on, I'm unable to troubleshoot it further.
    At this point, I'd contact Sprint and HTC and put the ball in their courts
    (knowing full well that in all likelyhood nothing will be done about it,
    particularly since HTC's usual bug-fix advice is "buy the next model.")





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  2. #17
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Unofficial Sprint Mogul ROM 3.49, WM 6.1, threaded SMS


    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > If Roger is still reading, at this point, I'm drawing a blank, and since I
    > have no device it doesn't work on, I'm unable to troubleshoot it further.
    > At this point, I'd contact Sprint and HTC and put the ball in their courts
    > (knowing full well that in all likelyhood nothing will be done about it,
    > particularly since HTC's usual bug-fix advice is "buy the next model.")


    Please give up on Al. I've been through that "New Browser" routine with him
    before and there is no stopping him.

    As for my Mogul. I know someone that says he has m.tvguide.com working on
    his Mogul along with other things like WM6.1 so I'm going to try everything
    he did.





  3. #18
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Unofficial Sprint Mogul ROM 3.49, WM 6.1, threaded SMS


    "Bob Wang" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162980
    >
    > If you don't have a RAR extractor, try open source:
    >
    > http://peazip.sourceforge.net/


    I found something interesting today. It says:

    "UPDATE: It looks like we may have jumped the gun with this one. It's come
    to our attention that this is not an official ROM leak, but rather a cooked
    homebrew ROM put together from an official Kaiser WM6 build."

    Source:
    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/...ows-mobile-61/






  4. #19
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Unofficial Sprint Mogul ROM 3.49, WM 6.1, threaded SMS


    "Todd Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > At one time I had five browsers... I'm down to three... [1, 2] and
    > > Skyfire, which,
    > > unless it's improved greatly by the time it's out of beta, will be
    > > uninstalled the
    > > day they start charging for it!


    > So it dosent work? It looks interesting, but I'm skeptical.


    No, it works, but it's slow, takes forever to start up (checks to see if the
    Skyfire server is up and connects to it) and is a little akward to use.
    (Tapping on a link when zoomed out zooms you in rather than selects it, even
    if the link/page was readable when zoomed out.)

    The flash support is nice, but it's certainly my browser of last resort
    rather than first choice (which, despite all of it's faults, is still IE
    Mobile.)





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