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- 07-12-2008, 08:10 AM #1SMSGuest
Dutch wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
>
>> The iPhone 2.0 Party has BEGUN!
>>
>> People are now starting to line up for the biggest innovation event in
>> human history! Records will be broken as Apple continues to modernize
>> the obsolete Cell Phone industry.
>
> NYC is full of weirdo's, I'd expect nothing less...
It's not just that, the first manufacturing batch of products always has
issues, you never want to buy too early. The first 3G iPhones, sold
yesterday, are no exception judging from all the news reports. Now the
early adopters are wondering if they'll be able to exchange their 3G
iPhones with the yellowish tint screens for a new one with a normal screen.
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- 07-12-2008, 08:59 AM #2DutchGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
SMS wrote:
> Dutch wrote:
>> Oxford wrote:
>>
>>> The iPhone 2.0 Party has BEGUN!
>>>
>>> People are now starting to line up for the biggest innovation event in
>>> human history! Records will be broken as Apple continues to modernize
>>> the obsolete Cell Phone industry.
>>
>> NYC is full of weirdo's, I'd expect nothing less...
>
> It's not just that, the first manufacturing batch of products always has
> issues, you never want to buy too early. The first 3G iPhones, sold
> yesterday, are no exception judging from all the news reports. Now the
> early adopters are wondering if they'll be able to exchange their 3G
> iPhones with the yellowish tint screens for a new one with a normal screen.
I understand the in-store and online activation process didn't exactly
go too smoothly either...
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- 07-12-2008, 10:13 AM #3Roger 2008Guest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
"Dutch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I understand the in-store and online activation process didn't exactly
> go too smoothly either...
You are right and M.Gerald posted a great link about that and I want to
repost part of his post along with a quote from the URL
iPhone "iPocalypse" as activations fail en masse
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/99178
Quote taken from above URL:
Disaster? Absolutely. Gizmodo notes though that it's not even the people
buying new phones that are the problem, it's the fact that Apple brilliantly
decided to release a major firmware update for all iPhones on the same day
as releasing a new model. Millions of existing iPhone users are upgrading
their software at home while Apple tries to use the same servers to activate
new models. It's not a big deal if a home user has to wait an extra hour,
but those in line are suffering for the goof-up.
- 07-12-2008, 10:15 AM #4DutchGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
Roger 2008 wrote:
> "Dutch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> I understand the in-store and online activation process didn't exactly
>> go too smoothly either...
>
> You are right and M.Gerald posted a great link about that and I want to
> repost part of his post along with a quote from the URL
>
> iPhone "iPocalypse" as activations fail en masse
> http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/99178
>
> Quote taken from above URL:
>
> Disaster? Absolutely. Gizmodo notes though that it's not even the people
> buying new phones that are the problem, it's the fact that Apple brilliantly
> decided to release a major firmware update for all iPhones on the same day
> as releasing a new model. Millions of existing iPhone users are upgrading
> their software at home while Apple tries to use the same servers to activate
> new models. It's not a big deal if a home user has to wait an extra hour,
> but those in line are suffering for the goof-up.
Hmmmm, so they shot themselves in both feet! :-)
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Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008
- 07-13-2008, 01:11 AM #5nospamGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
In article <[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:
> It's not just that, the first manufacturing batch of products always has
> issues, you never want to buy too early. The first 3G iPhones, sold
> yesterday, are no exception judging from all the news reports. Now the
> early adopters are wondering if they'll be able to exchange their 3G
> iPhones with the yellowish tint screens for a new one with a normal screen.
it's calibrated to a warmer white point, something that graphic artists
consistently do when calibrating their monitors. it's not a defect.
- 07-13-2008, 09:38 AM #6SMSGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
Roger 2008 wrote:
> Disaster? Absolutely. Gizmodo notes though that it's not even the people
> buying new phones that are the problem, it's the fact that Apple brilliantly
> decided to release a major firmware update for all iPhones on the same day
> as releasing a new model. Millions of existing iPhone users are upgrading
> their software at home while Apple tries to use the same servers to activate
> new models. It's not a big deal if a home user has to wait an extra hour,
> but those in line are suffering for the goof-up.
However there was a very good reason why Apple did it all at the same
time. They wanted to prevent all the 2G iPhones, owned by people
upgrading to the 3G model, from being unlocked and sold on craigslist
and eBay for use on other carriers. What hacker is going to bother
spending time on unlocking the old iPhone again?
- 07-13-2008, 11:50 AM #7nospamGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
In article <[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:
> However there was a very good reason why Apple did it all at the same
> time. They wanted to prevent all the 2G iPhones, owned by people
> upgrading to the 3G model, from being unlocked and sold on craigslist
> and eBay for use on other carriers. What hacker is going to bother
> spending time on unlocking the old iPhone again?
nonsense. apple could have staggered the release, although i suspect
they did not anticipate the meltdown. delaying the firmware update a
few days (or releasing it a few days earlier) would have had zero
impact on unlocked iphones.
- 07-13-2008, 02:32 PM #8LarryGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:130720081050419837%
[email protected]lid:
> releasing it a few days earlier) would have had zero
> impact on unlocked iphones.
>
But it would have had LOTS of impact on new phone sales if 2G owners were
satisfied with what v2.0 firmware was doing for them......saving thousands
in the process.
- 07-13-2008, 02:54 PM #9nospamGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > releasing it a few days earlier) would have had zero
> > impact on unlocked iphones.
>
> But it would have had LOTS of impact on new phone sales if 2G owners were
> satisfied with what v2.0 firmware was doing for them......saving thousands
> in the process.
so why did apple bother releasing the firmware at all for old phones
then? why not force everyone to ugprade the phone?
had apple done that you'd be *****ing that the money grubbing steve
obsoleted the hardware in just months.
- 07-13-2008, 04:55 PM #10OxfordGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> But it would have had LOTS of impact on new phone sales if 2G owners were
> satisfied with what v2.0 firmware was doing for them......saving thousands
> in the process.
not thousand's larry, more like $40...
please stick with facts... why, oh WHY do the poorly educated posters
hate facts? i LOVE them... and sure, i'm more educated than 90% of the
population, but come on Larry... when will you learn to understand what
is actually going on?
and, it's not firmware that was updated, just software... my 2.0
software on my iPhone 1.0 works great! no difference unless you go WAY
outside of society and don't connect via normal WiFi. But that's very
rare that you would still need to use the old fashioned cell network for
much of anything.
another cool app that has just appeared on the Apple Apps Store...
Truephone! so, say goodbye to the monopoly of Cell Phones!!!!
Yeah!
http://www.truphone.com/
Sweet!
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- 07-13-2008, 05:26 PM #11David MoyerGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > But it would have had LOTS of impact on new phone sales if 2G owners were
> > satisfied with what v2.0 firmware was doing for them......saving thousands
> > in the process.
>
> so why did apple bother releasing the firmware at all for old phones
> then? why not force everyone to ugprade the phone?
that's because Apple has a very great reputation for supporting products
as long as technologically possible...
they still fully support the iPod 1.0! and it's been 7 years!!! ... so
they are just like that, the customer always gets the best when they buy
an apple product.
the problem is, cell phone owners have never experienced Apple level
customer support, so it's a bit shocking to them.
but trust everyone that has an apple product, they will do you right!
- 07-13-2008, 05:46 PM #12David MoyerGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> However there was a very good reason why Apple did it all at the same
> time. They wanted to prevent all the 2G iPhones, owned by people
> upgrading to the 3G model, from being unlocked and sold on craigslist
> and eBay for use on other carriers. What hacker is going to bother
> spending time on unlocking the old iPhone again?
OH MY GOD... that is so incorrect it's beyond laughable...
Apple has always supported older products LONG after other vendors are
trying to make a "quick buck"... That's why Apple stuff is so popular
since you know they aren't going to rip you off.
The first iPhones are going for almost IDENTICAL to the price people
paid 1 year ago... since there is SO MUCH VALUE to an iPhone that it
retains its value, just like any Apple product.
SMS, you are clearly out of the loop or just plain stupid...
We all know you WANT an iPhone... but you're going to have to pay the
market price, which is $400 or so for the 4GB or $450 for the 8GB, there
is NO way around it...
DEMAND is just too smart & strong to lower the price for the next 4-5
years.
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- 07-13-2008, 07:26 PM #13LarryGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:apony-89B8DF.16553613072008
@news.qwest.net:
> not thousand's larry, more like $40...
>
Get out your FruitFone and boot the little calculator, not the scientific
one above your capabilities to understand.
Multiply $40 by the number of owners upgrading to ver 2.0....we'll wait
while you find the pads to touch.......................
There, see? They saved thousands by NOT BUYING a 3G iphone...!
Shut down the calculator and display before it kills the battery...thanks.
- 07-13-2008, 09:13 PM #14OxfordGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:apony-89B8DF.16553613072008
> @news.qwest.net:
>
> > not thousand's larry, more like $40...
> >
>
> Get out your FruitFone and boot the little calculator, not the scientific
> one above your capabilities to understand.
>
> Multiply $40 by the number of owners upgrading to ver 2.0....we'll wait
> while you find the pads to touch.......................
>
> There, see? They saved thousands by NOT BUYING a 3G iphone...!
>
> Shut down the calculator and display before it kills the battery...thanks.
the iPhone is one of the most inexpensive smartphones you can buy, I've
upgraded to 2.0 and it didn't cost a single penny.
and here it is, a year later and my battery is still at 99% of capacity.
- 07-13-2008, 09:52 PM #15OxfordGuest
Re: iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!
Paul Miner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >and, it's not firmware that was updated, just software... my 2.0
> >software on my iPhone 1.0 works great! no difference unless you go WAY
> >outside of society and don't connect via normal WiFi. But that's very
> >rare that you would still need to use the old fashioned cell network for
> >much of anything.
>
> Ouch, your love for facts petered out in record time with that
> analysis of WiFi coverage versus the 'old fashioned' cell networks.
fine, so you live on the fringe of modern society, that's not my or
others fault.
you'll join the wifi party in a few years, just wait...
check out truphone on your iphone, can you say, bye bye... cell
networks? i thought you could
http://www.truphone.com/
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