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  1. #1
    Steph
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    I have had my Treo 700p for a couple of years.
    It was flashed with the 755 ROMs awhile back giving it a bit more life
    and responiveness.

    As many are doing, we are looking at entering a new contract, and that of
    course is the opportunity for a new handset.

    My contenders are:

    Treo 755p - Palm OS
    Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
    Blackberry Curve

    I welcome any feedback on the above phones.
    The Palm OS has been good to me for many years, and I really enjoy the
    ability to keep all those items (notes, memos, addressbook, etc.) at hand
    and easily up to date. Additionally, I am a moderate SMS person - mostly
    for alerts from work and basic texting to friends/family.

    The Palm OS platform has also been great for adding applications to the
    phone - whether productivity or games for the kids.

    I do a lot of Microsoft administration, so I am leaning a bit towards the
    800w (and the wi-fi is a nice option). This would also work with our
    sharepoint site via the pocket/mobile IE. But everyone seems to love
    their Blackberries.

    For my SO, I am pushing the RANT - key for texting and a bit of web
    surfing.

    Thoughts or nudges in one direction or another?



    See More: Replacing a Palm OS Treo



  2. #2
    Joel Koltner
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    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    "Steph" <CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote in message
    news:Xns9B754DFC0C711skipatroluunet@130.191.3.6...
    > My contenders are:
    > Treo 755p - Palm OS
    > Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
    > Blackberry Curve


    I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these days I'd be
    tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software isn't as nicely all
    tied together as the 755p, but there are many more applications available for
    Windows Mobile than the Palm OS these days, and (perhaps unfortunately, as the
    Palm OS certainly is solid) the difference becomes larger daily.

    Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro (WinMo), with
    its 640x480 screen?

    ---Joel





  3. #3
    Steph
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    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:zUz1l.409704$3I2.104791@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com:

    > "Steph" <CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9B754DFC0C711skipatroluunet@130.191.3.6...
    >> My contenders are:
    >> Treo 755p - Palm OS
    >> Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
    >> Blackberry Curve

    >
    > I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these days
    > I'd be tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software isn't
    > as nicely all tied together as the 755p, but there are many more
    > applications available for Windows Mobile than the Palm OS these days,
    > and (perhaps unfortunately, as the Palm OS certainly is solid) the
    > difference becomes larger daily.
    >
    > Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro
    > (WinMo), with its 640x480 screen?
    >
    > ---Joel


    I wasn't thrilled with it, plus I know that Palm Os, MS Mobile, and
    Blackberry will all synch up with MS Outlook. The addition of 3rd party
    apps and the ability to do various auth to web pages is pretty important
    (the web browser being the largest detractor of staying with a Palm OS).




  4. #4
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo


    "Russ in San Diego" <russgoog@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:304cb706-6194-4fc7-9dae-4df6e001fc76@b41g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
    > What's the deal with the data plan for the windows platform? I know
    > that for the Palm platform, they charge $10 or $15 for all you can
    > eat. I thought that for the Windows platform "smart" phones, they
    > charge somewhat more. You might want to check it out.


    Last time I checked, it was $15 for any smartphone, as long as you don't use
    the phone as a modem for external devices.





  5. #5
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo


    "Steph" <CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote in message
    news:Xns9B7591010828Dskipatroluunet@130.191.3.6...

    >> I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these days
    >> I'd be tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software isn't
    >> as nicely all tied together as the 755p, but there are many more
    >> applications available for Windows Mobile than the Palm OS these days,
    >> and (perhaps unfortunately, as the Palm OS certainly is solid) the
    >> difference becomes larger daily.
    >>
    >> Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro
    >> (WinMo), with its 640x480 screen?
    >>
    >> ---Joel

    >
    > I wasn't thrilled with it, plus I know that Palm Os, MS Mobile, and
    > Blackberry will all synch up with MS Outlook.


    Wile it seems you prefer the Treo/Blackberry form factor (keyboard on front
    below the display), it isn't clear from what you typed that you realize the
    Touch Pro is also a Windows Mobile device like the Treo 800w, and therefore
    will sync with Outlook, just like the 800. It, like the less powerful and
    lower-res Windows Mobile-based Mogul (6800), has a slide-out keyboard and
    larger display than the 800w.

    Having said that, the 800w is a perfectly fine little phone, but I
    personally prefer larger displays, even if it sacrifices the keyboard
    altogether. Slide-out keyboards, IMO, are a nice compromise.


    The addition of 3rd party
    > apps and the ability to do various auth to web pages is pretty important
    > (the web browser being the largest detractor of staying with a Palm OS).
    >





  6. #6
    Steph
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    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
    news:%BQ1l.8369$JU5.1579@newsfe20.iad:

    >
    > "Russ in San Diego" <russgoog@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:304cb706-6194-4fc7-9dae-4df6e001fc76@b41g2000pra.googlegroups.com.
    > ..
    >> What's the deal with the data plan for the windows platform? I know
    >> that for the Palm platform, they charge $10 or $15 for all you can
    >> eat. I thought that for the Windows platform "smart" phones, they
    >> charge somewhat more. You might want to check it out.

    >
    > Last time I checked, it was $15 for any smartphone, as long as you
    > don't use the phone as a modem for external devices.
    >


    I currently pay $40 for PAM - but it is $15 for any phone unlimited data
    -- except the blackberry, those are $30 each. What I was told Sunday at
    least.




  7. #7
    Steph
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    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    Oh great... that mean sI am now comparing FOUR phones.
    seriously, though thank you for pointing that out. If i can get some
    subsidy for the handset purchase (work) maybe I will look more closely at
    the Touch Pro. Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?

    Honestly my biggest issue has been finding time to get a true Sprint
    store with functioning handsets to try them out. Sunday was my first time
    in many months.

    It still comes down to deciding to go with Palm OS, Windows Mobile, or
    Blackberry.

    As for plans, I have a 700 minute family share plan. I am loking at the
    Family text plan (1500 minute version). The Family data looked good - but
    it is $20 per additional line versus $10 and not everyone needs unlimited
    data (I have 5 lines plus a sixth on the pioneer plan).


    "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
    news:EIQ1l.8372$JU5.5724@newsfe20.iad:

    >
    > "Steph" <CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9B7591010828Dskipatroluunet@130.191.3.6...
    >
    >>> I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these
    >>> days I'd be tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software
    >>> isn't as nicely all tied together as the 755p, but there are many
    >>> more applications available for Windows Mobile than the Palm OS
    >>> these days, and (perhaps unfortunately, as the Palm OS certainly is
    >>> solid) the difference becomes larger daily.
    >>>
    >>> Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro
    >>> (WinMo), with its 640x480 screen?
    >>>
    >>> ---Joel

    >>
    >> I wasn't thrilled with it, plus I know that Palm Os, MS Mobile, and
    >> Blackberry will all synch up with MS Outlook.

    >
    > Wile it seems you prefer the Treo/Blackberry form factor (keyboard on
    > front below the display), it isn't clear from what you typed that you
    > realize the Touch Pro is also a Windows Mobile device like the Treo
    > 800w, and therefore will sync with Outlook, just like the 800. It,
    > like the less powerful and lower-res Windows Mobile-based Mogul
    > (6800), has a slide-out keyboard and larger display than the 800w.
    >
    > Having said that, the 800w is a perfectly fine little phone, but I
    > personally prefer larger displays, even if it sacrifices the keyboard
    > altogether. Slide-out keyboards, IMO, are a nice compromise.
    >
    >
    > The addition of 3rd party
    >> apps and the ability to do various auth to web pages is pretty
    >> important (the web browser being the largest detractor of staying
    >> with a Palm OS).
    >>

    >
    >





  8. #8
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    At 16 Dec 2008 18:28:20 +0000 Steph wrote:
    > Oh great... that mean sI am now comparing FOUR phones.


    Choice is good! ;-)


    > seriously, though thank you for pointing that out. If i can get some
    > subsidy for the handset purchase (work) maybe I will look more closely at
    > the Touch Pro. Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?



    Yes it does.

    > Honestly my biggest issue has been finding time to get a true Sprint
    > store with functioning handsets to try them out. Sunday was my first time
    > in many months.
    >
    > It still comes down to deciding to go with Palm OS, Windows Mobile, or
    > Blackberry.



    I'm a WinMo guy, personally, since I've been using it for ten years. It's
    hard to switch when you're very comfortable with a platform.

    For syncing with Outlook, and basic smartphone functions, they all get the
    job done, but the Touch Pro's VGA screen will certainly make media viewing
    more pleasant, and web browsing less painful! ;-)






  9. #9
    Joel Koltner
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    "Steph" <CUT_skipatrol@hotmail.com_CUT> wrote in message
    news:Xns9B766B087FAACskipatroluunet@130.191.3.6...
    > Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?


    Yes it does. Also Bluetooth, reasonable decent camera, a micro-SD card if you
    ever run of of internal memory, tilt sensors that automatically rotate the
    screen when you shift the phone's position, and a "touch interface" that's of
    questionable utility, but some people really seem to like it.

    By default the Touch Pro runs Opera as the web browser, although Internet
    Explorer is available as well. (Opera has much better facilities for
    panning/scrolling/tabs/etc. than IE...)

    The e-mail client supports the usual POP3/IMAP servers and can be set to poll
    at whatever interval you want. There's built-in support for push-based e-mail
    from an Exchange server, and you can get push support for Gmail/Yahoo/MSN/etc.
    from seven.com for free. (Sprint includes Seven's software in some of their
    phones, I'm not sure why they didn't on the Touch Pro.)

    ---Joel





  10. #10
    Steph
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo

    Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
    news:aGa2l.61907$zQ3.29675@newsfe12.iad:

    > At 16 Dec 2008 18:28:20 +0000 Steph wrote:
    >> Oh great... that mean sI am now comparing FOUR phones.

    >
    > Choice is good! ;-)
    >
    >
    >> seriously, though thank you for pointing that out. If i can get some
    >> subsidy for the handset purchase (work) maybe I will look more
    >> closely at the Touch Pro. Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?

    >
    >
    > Yes it does.
    >
    >> Honestly my biggest issue has been finding time to get a true Sprint
    >> store with functioning handsets to try them out. Sunday was my first
    >> time in many months.
    >>
    >> It still comes down to deciding to go with Palm OS, Windows Mobile,
    >> or Blackberry.

    >
    >
    > I'm a WinMo guy, personally, since I've been using it for ten years.
    > It's hard to switch when you're very comfortable with a platform.
    >
    > For syncing with Outlook, and basic smartphone functions, they all get
    > the job done, but the Touch Pro's VGA screen will certainly make media
    > viewing more pleasant, and web browsing less painful! ;-)
    >


    Do you have the HTC Touch Pro?
    I have heard it is grossly underpowered CPU wise.
    Even my Palm OS based Treo can handle SMS, playing audio, using BT
    headset and running my MobileXT app simutanesouly. Sure it stutters once
    in awhile - but i have heard of people using the winmo platform with
    longer pauses than than while running fewer apps at once.



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