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Old 09-19-2003, 08:41 AM   #1
justme@commspeed.net
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Need Help ASAP, Have N400 and NEED to change tomorrow!


I called Sprint two days ago and told them I was FED up with
my Samsung N400 phone. It won't hold a signal, constant roaming in
both digital and analog. The lady on the other end was great! She
did some check and came back saying they would replace my N400, I told
her I wanted to CHANGE phones...she came back and said they would send
me a Sanyo 4900 phone. My hubby has this phone and has NO problems so
I said yes!. They will ship it out and I return my N400 to them.

Today UPS shows up and I'm thinking, "great, my new phone". I open
the box to find a Sanyo 6400, NON color phone :-( Ok, i'm bummed.
I call Customer support again and get a great lady name Linda. I
explain the situation to her and she does what she do. I end up
having to send back the 6400 for a $100 credit at my local Sprint
store and keep my N400.

My question is this.....I know I can sell my N400 on eBay, I'm a
PowerSeller and sell lots, but what I need to know is this.....Does
the Sanyo 8100 flip phone (flip phones are my preferece) have the
signal strength of the 4900 phone or what is a GOOD phone for signal?
I prefer a flip but it isn't as important as missing calls.

Thanks for ANY help / comments.


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Old 09-19-2003, 08:49 AM   #2
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In article <bmkkmvgma9s8k1f8p31p7r9g274eo1pe3e@4ax.com>,
justme@commspeed.net wrote:

> I called Sprint two days ago and told them I was FED up with
> my Samsung N400 phone. It won't hold a signal, constant roaming in
> both digital and analog. The lady on the other end was great! She
> did some check and came back saying they would replace my N400, I told
> her I wanted to CHANGE phones...she came back and said they would send
> me a Sanyo 4900 phone. My hubby has this phone and has NO problems so
> I said yes!. They will ship it out and I return my N400 to them.
>
> Today UPS shows up and I'm thinking, "great, my new phone". I open
> the box to find a Sanyo 6400, NON color phone :-( Ok, i'm bummed.
> I call Customer support again and get a great lady name Linda. I
> explain the situation to her and she does what she do. I end up
> having to send back the 6400 for a $100 credit at my local Sprint
> store and keep my N400.
>
> My question is this.....I know I can sell my N400 on eBay, I'm a
> PowerSeller and sell lots, but what I need to know is this.....Does
> the Sanyo 8100 flip phone (flip phones are my preferece) have the
> signal strength of the 4900 phone or what is a GOOD phone for signal?
> I prefer a flip but it isn't as important as missing calls.
>
> Thanks for ANY help / comments.




If you like the 4900, try and get one on ebay ! The Sanyo 4900 has a
Speaker phone, which the 8100 lacks so they could shoehorn the camera in.
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Old 09-19-2003, 08:55 AM   #3
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The 8100 is not as good as the 4900 for RF, the Samsung A620 is a closer
match (though it still is not as good as the 4900).

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Old 09-19-2003, 10:01 AM   #4
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hatoncat <hatoncat.u0alz@in-val-id.com> wrote in article
<hatoncat.u0alz@in-val-id.com>:
>
> The 8100 is not as good as the 4900 for RF, the Samsung A620 is a closer
> match (though it still is not as good as the 4900).
>
> --
> Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
>



does anyone agree with this?! I sell sprint and let me tell you none of
the current samsungs can hold a signal half as well as the sanyos. I
purchased an 8100 over the 620 for this reason. in the back room of my
store the samsung is 'searching' whle the sanyos are 2/4 bars and making
calls CLEARLY

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Old 09-19-2003, 11:07 AM   #5
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In article <vmm6hr3d62l427@corp.supernews.com>,
RobNoopsWLatyahoo.com (Rob Smith) wrote:

>
>
> hatoncat <hatoncat.u0alz@in-val-id.com> wrote in article
> <hatoncat.u0alz@in-val-id.com>:
> >
> > The 8100 is not as good as the 4900 for RF, the Samsung A620 is a closer
> > match (though it still is not as good as the 4900).
> >
> > --
> > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
> >

>
>
> does anyone agree with this?! I sell sprint and let me tell you none of
> the current samsungs can hold a signal half as well as the sanyos. I
> purchased an 8100 over the 620 for this reason. in the back room of my
> store the samsung is 'searching' whle the sanyos are 2/4 bars and making
> calls CLEARLY
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]



Hatoncat is usually pretty reliable, but many posts on here have said
Sanyo = good; Samsung = problematic as far as reception in fringe
areas.
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Old 09-19-2003, 11:30 AM   #6
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Rob Smith wrote:
> *hatoncat <hatoncat.u0alz@in-val-id.com> wrote in article
> <hatoncat.u0alz@in-val-id.com>:
> >
> > The 8100 is not as good as the 4900 for RF, the Samsung A620 is a

> closer
> > match (though it still is not as good as the 4900).
> >
> > --
> > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
> >

>
>
> does anyone agree with this?! I sell sprint and let me tell you none
> of
> the current samsungs can hold a signal half as well as the sanyos.
> I
> purchased an 8100 over the 620 for this reason. in the back room of
> my
> store the samsung is 'searching' whle the sanyos are 2/4 bars and
> making
> calls CLEARLY
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com] *


I agree with hatoncat. I've owned both the A620 & 8100, they are the
same in the RF department. And never go by the signal bars on a cell
phone each phone is different. Sanyos seem to over exaggerate while
Samsungs are much more conservative. The best way to check RF levels is
in the debug mode where you can view the RF in dB.

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Old 09-19-2003, 11:30 AM   #7
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"Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
<Pearl-EA9B46.11072919092003@news02.west.earthlink.net>:

> Hatoncat is usually pretty reliable, but many posts on here have said
> Sanyo = good; Samsung = problematic as far as reception in fringe
> areas.


Reception isn't the only issue Samsung is notorious for..

Flips is also a big issue with them, but they have gotten better.

I don't think we're going to see any more flips like the 3500, N200,
N400 anymore.

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Old 09-19-2003, 12:49 PM   #8
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In article <ODGab.1336$iT4.882747@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
DItalianSalami <donatooSpamsux@AdelphiaSpamsux.Net> wrote:

> My brother has a 8100 and I got the 620, and we both can make calls in
> the same marginal signal areas.


Sometimes there's more differences between batches than brands.
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Old 09-19-2003, 02:17 PM   #9
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"Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
<Pearl-D9AE1D.12493119092003@news02.west.earthlink.net>:
> In article <ODGab.1336$iT4.882747@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
> DItalianSalami <donatooSpamsux@AdelphiaSpamsux.Net> wrote:
>
> > My brother has a 8100 and I got the 620, and we both can make calls in
> > the same marginal signal areas.

>
> Sometimes there's more differences between batches than brands.


I'll fully agree.

Perfect example, the Denso (Touchpoint) 2100. My store would go though
100-200 that worked great, then we'd get a case that all (10) would come
back within a month, then fine for another 100-200 phones.

Most of the difference is the transistors. Transistors have an internal
resistance (or was it impedance?) that is measured in a 'beta'. This
beta, although makes a difference less than a micro-volt, when
multiplied by the thousands that are in there, can make a difference
(same between a Pentium2-350MHz and a Pentium2-450MHz).

Component level companies (such as Motorola semiconductors, Qualcomm
etc..) try to eliminate this variance as much, but with more and more
transistors (and inductors, etc..) the variances still exist.

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Old 09-19-2003, 03:39 PM   #10
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Tech Geek wrote:
> *"Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
> <Pearl-D9AE1D.12493119092003@news02.west.earthlink.net>:
> > In article <ODGab.1336$iT4.882747@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
> > DItalianSalami <donatooSpamsux@AdelphiaSpamsux.Net> wrote:
> >
> > > My brother has a 8100 and I got the 620, and we both can make

> calls in
> > > the same marginal signal areas.

> >
> > Sometimes there's more differences between batches than

> brands.

>
> I'll fully agree.
>
> Perfect example, the Denso (Touchpoint) 2100. My store would go
> though
> 100-200 that worked great, then we'd get a case that all (10) would
> come
> back within a month, then fine for another 100-200 phones.
>
> Most of the difference is the transistors. Transistors have an
> internal
> resistance (or was it impedance?) that is measured in a 'beta'.
> This
> beta, although makes a difference less than a micro-volt, when
> multiplied by the thousands that are in there, can make a difference
> (same between a Pentium2-350MHz and a Pentium2-450MHz).
>
> Component level companies (such as Motorola semiconductors, Qualcomm
> etc..) try to eliminate this variance as much, but with more and
> more
> transistors (and inductors, etc..) the variances still exist.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com] *


I will agree with that as well. I can't remember how many times I have
read where someone when through 3 or more of the same phone. And this
goes for any provider too.

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Old 09-20-2003, 04:18 AM   #11
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budney wrote:

> Tech Geek wrote:
>
>>*"Phill." <Pearl@oyster.com> wrote in article
>><Pearl-D9AE1D.12493119092003@news02.west.earthlink.net>:
>>
>>>In article <ODGab.1336$iT4.882747@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
>>> DItalianSalami <donatooSpamsux@AdelphiaSpamsux.Net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My brother has a 8100 and I got the 620, and we both can make

>>
>>calls in
>>
>>>>the same marginal signal areas.
>>>
>>>Sometimes there's more differences between batches than

>>
>>brands.

>>
>>I'll fully agree.
>>
>>Perfect example, the Denso (Touchpoint) 2100. My store would go
>>though
>>100-200 that worked great, then we'd get a case that all (10) would
>>come
>>back within a month, then fine for another 100-200 phones.
>>
>>Most of the difference is the transistors. Transistors have an
>>internal
>>resistance (or was it impedance?) that is measured in a 'beta'.
>>This
>>beta, although makes a difference less than a micro-volt, when
>>multiplied by the thousands that are in there, can make a difference
>>(same between a Pentium2-350MHz and a Pentium2-450MHz).
>>
>>Component level companies (such as Motorola semiconductors, Qualcomm
>>etc..) try to eliminate this variance as much, but with more and
>>more
>>transistors (and inductors, etc..) the variances still exist.
>>
>>[posted via phonescoop.com] *

>
>
> I will agree with that as well. I can't remember how many times I have
> read where someone when through 3 or more of the same phone. And this
> goes for any provider too.
>
> --
> Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
>

Well before when I had an A500 I went through 2 of them before they got
me one that passed their tests and worked really great.

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