an apologist for illegal activities

> I'd love to see how its "illegal".

You convientantly never mentioned how you handled the Samsung Black 8500's. You
said they weren't defective because Samsung fixed them. So why didn't they put
them in Gray cases then. Because they were reconditioned.

If you sell reconditioned stuff as new thats fraud and I agree, it's illegal.
Wow, now being an apologist for illegal activities.

Please advise what states you did that in.

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Because there were other differences between the black 8500 and silver,
like the silver had more phonebook entries. It wasn't just a simple
case of putting a new color on it.

If you want to start a lawsuit, go right ahead. Sprint PCS did this in
every retail store they had, and I'm sure you'll get laughed out of
court.

(And "Some guy on the internet said..." is never a good defence in
court)

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In article <[email protected]>,
TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you want to start a lawsuit, go right ahead. Sprint PCS did this in
> every retail store they had, and I'm sure you'll get laughed out of
> court.

So again you're not denying then that reconditioned Samsung 8500's were
sold as new, and in every retail store? I'm sure potential customers are
glad to learn that.

And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded as
new?

Thanks for confirming it.

Wouldn't a reconditioned phone be a phone that was used, returned, then
repaired, and resold. If that is the definition for a recon phone then
those phones wouldn't be recon phones.

Camile Cardenas <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > If you want to start a lawsuit, go right ahead. Sprint PCS did this in
> > every retail store they had, and I'm sure you'll get laughed out of
> > court.
>
> So again you're not denying then that reconditioned Samsung 8500's were
> sold as new, and in every retail store? I'm sure potential customers are
> glad to learn that.
>
> And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded as
> new?
>
> Thanks for confirming it.

[posted via phonescoop.com]

How did the mention of 15 minutes make it all the way to 15 hours
Al.




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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Brian peterson) wrote:

> Wouldn't a reconditioned phone be a phone that was used, returned, then
> repaired, and resold. If that is the definition for a recon phone then
> those phones wouldn't be recon phones.

Depends but by Techgeels account they were all sold as new.

What he is trying to say is that the phones sold were probably ones that
sprint never sold in the first place. They were probably sitting in a
warehouse when the recall occured and samsung took them back and fixed
the problem. At this point, yes the phones could be sold as new.

About the 15hrs. That is the industry standard that all carriers must
follow. Sprint's policy is that is the phone was activated it must be
sold as reconditioned. Most carriers turn around and sell phones that
people return under their 14 day return policy. Sprint phones must be
sent back, checked to make sure they are ok and are then either sold as
reconditioned or used in warranty replacement.

None of this is illegal.

--
-Brandt

I work for SprintPCS,
I DON'T speak for them.


[email protected] (Brian peterson) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Wouldn't a reconditioned phone be a phone that was used, returned, then
> repaired, and resold. If that is the definition for a recon phone then
> those phones wouldn't be recon phones.
>
> Camile Cardenas <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > If you want to start a lawsuit, go right ahead. Sprint PCS did this in
> > > every retail store they had, and I'm sure you'll get laughed out of
> > > court.
> >
> > So again you're not denying then that reconditioned Samsung 8500's were
> > sold as new, and in every retail store? I'm sure potential customers are
> > glad to learn that.
> >
> > And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded as
> > new?
> >
> > Thanks for confirming it.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

Brandt (a Sprint employee) says

"What he is trying to say is that the phones sold were probably ones that
sprint never sold in the first place. They were probably sitting in a
warehouse when the recall occured and samsung took them back and fixed
the problem. At this point, yes the phones could be sold as new."

Sorry, thats not the law. At that point they're reconditioned, or maybe
remanufactured. STILL NOT NEW.

Why would they not be considered new?

No one ever used the phone, it sat in it's original packaging until sent
back to the manufacturer in order to fix an issue. It was then
repackaged and sold. Why would they be used?

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-Brandt

I work for SprintPCS,
I DON'T speak for them.


[email protected] (Sprintposter) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Brandt (a Sprint employee) says
>
> "What he is trying to say is that the phones sold were probably ones that
> sprint never sold in the first place. They were probably sitting in a
> warehouse when the recall occured and samsung took them back and fixed
> the problem. At this point, yes the phones could be sold as new."
>
> Sorry, thats not the law. At that point they're reconditioned, or maybe
> remanufactured. STILL NOT NEW.

[posted via phonescoop.com]

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Sorry, thats not the law. At that point they're reconditioned, or maybe
> remanufactured. STILL NOT NEW.
>=20

Interesting. Ford fixes recall issues on the cars still in their lots,=20
and then still sells them as new. So does every automobile manufacturer=20
on the planet that even does recalls.

Are those cars no longer new also?

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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

Camile Cardenas wrote:
> *And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded
> as new?*

What is up with 15 hours? I said the FCC regulations state any phone
with less than 15 MINUTES of usage can still be sold as new, that is
not Sprint's policy, that's the FCC's, if you don't like it, complain
to them.

Sprint PCS's policy on that is ONE MINUTE of usage, then it can not be
sold as new, and since calls are rounded up to the next whole minute,
then one call, even if it was a second, the phone would no longer be
"new".

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It doesn't even need one minute. Once activated it must be sent back
and reconditioned.

--
-Brandt

I work for SprintPCS,
I DON'T speak for them.


TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> Camile Cardenas wrote:
> > *And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded
> > as new?*
>
> What is up with 15 hours? I said the FCC regulations state any phone
> with less than 15 MINUTES of usage can still be sold as new, that is
> not Sprint's policy, that's the FCC's, if you don't like it, complain
> to them.
>
> Sprint PCS's policy on that is ONE MINUTE of usage, then it can not be
> sold as new, and since calls are rounded up to the next whole minute,
> then one call, even if it was a second, the phone would no longer be
> "new".
>
> --
> Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

Until it hist Louisville, then they can go as long as 15 minutes. (the
dreaded Reboxed phone, if they remembered to deactivate it)

[email protected] (Brandt ) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> It doesn't even need one minute. Once activated it must be sent back
> and reconditioned.
>
> --
> -Brandt
>
> I work for SprintPCS,
> I DON'T speak for them.
>
>
> TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Camile Cardenas wrote:
> > > *And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded
> > > as new?*
> >
> > What is up with 15 hours? I said the FCC regulations state any phone
> > with less than 15 MINUTES of usage can still be sold as new, that is
> > not Sprint's policy, that's the FCC's, if you don't like it, complain
> > to them.
> >
> > Sprint PCS's policy on that is ONE MINUTE of usage, then it can not be
> > sold as new, and since calls are rounded up to the next whole minute,
> > then one call, even if it was a second, the phone would no longer be
> > "new".
> >
> > --
> > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

They shouldn't, it is againt Sprint's policy.

--
-Brandt

I work for SprintPCS,
I DON'T speak for them.


direcció[email protected] (ben dejo) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Until it hist Louisville, then they can go as long as 15 minutes. (the
> dreaded Reboxed phone, if they remembered to deactivate it)
>
> [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > It doesn't even need one minute. Once activated it must be sent back
> > and reconditioned.
> >
> > --
> > -Brandt
> >
> > I work for SprintPCS,
> > I DON'T speak for them.
> >
> >
> > TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote in article
> > <[email protected]>:
> > >
> > > Camile Cardenas wrote:
> > > > *And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded
> > > > as new?*
> > >
> > > What is up with 15 hours? I said the FCC regulations state any phone
> > > with less than 15 MINUTES of usage can still be sold as new, that is
> > > not Sprint's policy, that's the FCC's, if you don't like it, complain
> > > to them.
> > >
> > > Sprint PCS's policy on that is ONE MINUTE of usage, then it can not be
> > > sold as new, and since calls are rounded up to the next whole minute,
> > > then one call, even if it was a second, the phone would no longer be
> > > "new".
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> > > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
> > >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]

what do you know about Sprint policy peckerhead. You don't even work
for them. I would Like to see you post policy up here on this board
(SPrint's policies are all online internally, if you know half the
people you claim to then you should have no problem producing this)

[email protected] (Brandt ) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> They shouldn't, it is againt Sprint's policy.
>
> --
> -Brandt
>
> I work for SprintPCS,
> I DON'T speak for them.
>
>
> direcció[email protected] (ben dejo) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > Until it hist Louisville, then they can go as long as 15 minutes. (the
> > dreaded Reboxed phone, if they remembered to deactivate it)
> >
> > [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote in article
> > <[email protected]>:
> > > It doesn't even need one minute. Once activated it must be sent back
> > > and reconditioned.
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Brandt
> > >
> > > I work for SprintPCS,
> > > I DON'T speak for them.
> > >
> > >
> > > TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote in article
> > > <[email protected]>:
> > > >
> > > > Camile Cardenas wrote:
> > > > > *And phones used up to 15 hours (i.e. 900 minutes) are also unloaded
> > > > > as new?*
> > > >
> > > > What is up with 15 hours? I said the FCC regulations state any phone
> > > > with less than 15 MINUTES of usage can still be sold as new, that is
> > > > not Sprint's policy, that's the FCC's, if you don't like it, complain
> > > > to them.
> > > >
> > > > Sprint PCS's policy on that is ONE MINUTE of usage, then it can not be
> > > > sold as new, and since calls are rounded up to the next whole minute,
> > > > then one call, even if it was a second, the phone would no longer be
> > > > "new".
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
> > > > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
> > > >
> > >
> > > [posted via phonescoop.com]
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

[posted via phonescoop.com]