Verizon, in contrast to SprintPCS, had good results.

Reuters Oct 28, 8:47 AM ET

Verizon Wireless, the largest U.S. wireless telephone company, increased
quarterly revenue by 18 percent as it led rivals in adding new customers.

Verizon Wireless added 1.3 million customers, finishing the quarter with a
total of 36 million, said Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ - News).

"This maybe restores some confidence back in the (wireless) group that there's
a real differentiation among the top tier players than the rest of the group,"
said Craig Mallitz, wireless analyst with Legg Mason.

Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News), the nation's fifth-largest
wireless operator, kicked off the quarterly earnings season with strong
results, but analysts were disappointed by No. 3 AT&T Wireless Services Inc.
(NYSE:AWE - News) and No. 4 Sprint PCS Group (NYSE:PCS - News; NYSE:FON -
News), which both added fewer customers than expected.

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wait until LNP....customers will be jumping frogs! verizon will be losing
lots of customers from that...


"CAT0NHAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Reuters Oct 28, 8:47 AM ET
>
> Verizon Wireless, the largest U.S. wireless telephone company, increased
> quarterly revenue by 18 percent as it led rivals in adding new customers.
>
> Verizon Wireless added 1.3 million customers, finishing the quarter with
a
> total of 36 million, said Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ - News).
>
> "This maybe restores some confidence back in the (wireless) group that
there's
> a real differentiation among the top tier players than the rest of the
group,"
> said Craig Mallitz, wireless analyst with Legg Mason.
>
> Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News), the nation's
fifth-largest
> wireless operator, kicked off the quarterly earnings season with strong
> results, but analysts were disappointed by No. 3 AT&T Wireless Services
Inc.
> (NYSE:AWE - News) and No. 4 Sprint PCS Group (NYSE:PCS - News; NYSE:FON -
> News), which both added fewer customers than expected.

> wait until LNP....customers will be jumping frogs! > verizon will be losing
> lots of customers from that...

Nice try. Thats not the betting on Wall Street. Stocks are way up today,
SprintPCS stock is STILL going lower. Down to 4.15 now. The company with good
results the last quarter (like Verizon) are expected to be the winners from
WLNP, while the folks that added way fewer users than expected last quarter
(like SprintPCS) are expected to be losers, and thats reflected in the crash of
Sprint's stock price.

Dont take my word for it, read it here and weep.

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech.../10121888.html

your crystal ball is cloudy and overly hopeful.......


"CAT0NHAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > wait until LNP....customers will be jumping frogs! > verizon will be
losing
> > lots of customers from that...
>
> Nice try. Thats not the betting on Wall Street. Stocks are way up today,
> SprintPCS stock is STILL going lower. Down to 4.15 now. The company with
good
> results the last quarter (like Verizon) are expected to be the winners
from
> WLNP, while the folks that added way fewer users than expected last
quarter
> (like SprintPCS) are expected to be losers, and thats reflected in the
crash of
> Sprint's stock price.
>
> Dont take my word for it, read it here and weep.
>
> http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech.../10121888.html

> your crystal ball is cloudy and overly hopeful.......

I have no crystal ball and no particular favorites in the coming WLNP shakeout.


I do rely on some Wall Street opinions that have studied that matter far more
than anyone posting here has.

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech.../10121888.html

Sprint & AT&T are expected to be losers, but anybody can pull a rabbit out of
their hat. So far Sprint has been distributing its regular share of lumps of
coal.

On 28 Oct 2003 15:28:04 GMT, [email protected] (CAT0NHAT) wrote:

>
On 10/25/2003, a thread was started with the subject of: "AT&T
Wireless stock tumbles", your immediate reply was that fact had
nothing to do with Sprint performance and it was a Sprint apologist
method of trying to justify Sprint stock falling, now, a few days
later you post something about positive about Verizon and are directly
comparing it to Sprint. Exactly how is this any different from
someone posting about AT&T a few days ago?

I do not know what point you are trying to make (or care) but all I
see is you are a troll. How does Verizon stock going up and Sprint
falling effect anyone in this group? This is another one of your piss
poor attempts to draw attention to yourself. You think Sprint is
going or is already falling beyond help, that opinion is fine and may
or may not be the same opinion as others, but do you have to post it
with 10 different names multiple times a day in every thread in a
different subtle form every day? If you truely feel that strong about
it, do us all a favor and get off your computer and go stand in front
of your local Sprint store with a ****ing sign and bother them. Maybe
someone there will take you more seriously.

CAT0NHAT wrote:

>> wait until LNP....customers will be jumping frogs! > verizon will be
>> losing lots of customers from that...
>
> Nice try. Thats not the betting on Wall Street. Stocks are way up today,
> SprintPCS stock is STILL going lower. Down to 4.15 now. The company with
> good results the last quarter (like Verizon) are expected to be the
> winners from WLNP, while the folks that added way fewer users than
> expected last quarter (like SprintPCS) are expected to be losers, and
> thats reflected in the crash of Sprint's stock price.
>
> Dont take my word for it, read it here and weep.
>
> http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech.../10121888.html


Then explain the drop in Verizon stock today, which is hovering around the
52 week low. And you need to use facts- Verizon's net was down 59% from a
year ago. That's investor security.

BTW, have you figured out my 'vested interest' yet?

CAT0NHAT wrote:

>> your crystal ball is cloudy and overly hopeful.......
>
> I have no crystal ball and no particular favorites in the coming WLNP
> shakeout.
>
>
> I do rely on some Wall Street opinions that have studied that matter far
> more than anyone posting here has.
>


Would that include industry analysts that might post to this group?

Leading Sprint apologist [email protected] says:


> Would that include industry analysts that might
> post to this group?

The link was already posted, but just for you here it is again:

<A
HREF="http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/10121888.html">http
://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/10121888.html</A>

CAT0NHAT wrote:

> Leading Sprint apologist [email protected] says:
>
>
>> Would that include industry analysts that might
>> post to this group?
>
> The link was already posted, but just for you here it is again:
>
> <A
> HREF="http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/10121888.html">http
> ://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/10121888.html</A>

What does that have to do with the question, fool? I said INDUSTRY
ANALYSTS, not financial analysts. If you don't know the difference, just
keep silent.

Scott Stephenson wrote:

> CAT0NHAT wrote:
>
>> Leading Sprint apologist [email protected] says:
>>
>>
>>> Would that include industry analysts that might
>>> post to this group?
>>
>> The link was already posted, but just for you here it is again:
>>
>> <A
>>
HREF="http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/10121888.html">http
>> ://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tech/scottmoritz/10121888.html</A>
>
> What does that have to do with the question, fool? I said INDUSTRY
> ANALYSTS, not financial analysts. If you don't know the difference, just
> keep silent.


Here Phil- let me give you a few hints:

Do the Wall St. guys know anything about the billing systems, network
technology, individual rate plans, phone technology (not just what is in
the press releases), network expansion plans, fraud programs, network
upgrades, retention programs, 3G technology, technology in development
(again, details, not press releases), or account structures (this list is
just for starters)? Or do they know the window dressing stuff and use that
in conjunction with the financials to do their analysis after the fact?
Did you ever stop to think (oh wait- this is Phil I'm talking to) that
there might be people in the industry (INDUSTRY ANALYSTS) that use the
great big partial list (among other things) I just gave you to determine
the true place a company has in the industry, and uses the financials only
to determine market trends, and not profitability? Last hint, Phil- this
last group of people DO exist, and.......hehehehehehe......they exist in
this group. They don't care about any particular company (translation- not
apologists) as long as the information posted is accurate.

Guess that might shoot your great personal knowledge base all to hell.

> fool

Typical Sprint apologist, proven wrong, SprintPCS stock is in the toilet, and
his reposnse is to insult the messenger and ignore the message.

Next like Veldhouse why dont you plonk me if you cant handle the truth.

SprintPCS is losing money, its stock has crashed, and Sprint is expected to
lose when WNLP kicks in.

On 28 Oct 2003 15:28:04 GMT, [email protected] (CAT0NHAT) wrote:

>
>Reuters Oct 28, 8:47 AM ET
>
> Verizon Wireless, the largest U.S. wireless telephone company, increased
>quarterly revenue by 18 percent as it led rivals in adding new customers.
>
> Verizon Wireless added 1.3 million customers, finishing the quarter with a
>total of 36 million, said Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ - News).

So, let's abandon all other wireless carriers, regardless of features
or price of service, and go with the biggest, or whomever pleases Wall
Street!

All I did is post a Reuters story. A Sprint apologist who cant accept verizon
being profitable while Sprint continues to lose money set up the following
strawman:

> So, let's abandon all other wireless carriers,
> regardless of features or price of service, and go > with the biggest, or
whomever pleases Wall
> Street!

Where the f*** did you come up with that conclusion? No one said that, hinted
that or asked for that.

However the market will esnure that the profitable carriers (Nextel and
Verizon) will survive and
the unprofitable (SprintPCS) may not. It would certainly behoove SprintPCS to
radically change the way it handles Customer Service, as it is currently rated
last; and recent posts here show why. reps are too often too busy upselling or
completing a call, or not knowing where to find information to be of any help,
and even Sprint employees have said that if one promises to call back, they
won't.

"CAT0NHAT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> All I did is post a Reuters story. A Sprint apologist who cant accept
verizon
> being profitable while Sprint continues to lose money set up the following
> strawman:
>
> > So, let's abandon all other wireless carriers,
> > regardless of features or price of service, and go > with the biggest,
or
> whomever pleases Wall
> > Street!
>
> Where the f*** did you come up with that conclusion? No one said that,
hinted
> that or asked for that.
>
> However the market will esnure that the profitable carriers (Nextel and
> Verizon) will survive and
> the unprofitable (SprintPCS) may not. It would certainly behoove SprintPCS
to
> radically change the way it handles Customer Service, as it is currently
rated
> last; and recent posts here show why. reps are too often too busy
upselling or
> completing a call, or not knowing where to find information to be of any
help,
> and even Sprint employees have said that if one promises to call back,
they
> won't

That last two times I called into CS, I received one call back when it was
necessary to do a follow up.

The last three times I sent in emails on account inquiries, I received
replies between 2 hours and 24 hours from sending the emails.

So Phillipe, CS is following up, for yours truly and for others.

Bob