Verizon is profitable, SprintPCS isnt

10-29-2003, 04:05 PM

Lets start over. Here is the Reuters story that Sprint apologists try to go OFF
TOPIC on so it wont be discussed. SprintPCS is losing money, if they keep it up
they WILL go out of business.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/031028/telec...ireless_4.html

Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:<A
HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nxtl">NXTL</A><A
HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nxtl">
</A> -<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=nxtl"> News</A>), the nation's
fifth-largest wireless operator, kicked off the quarterly earnings season with
strong results, but analysts were disappointed by No. 3 AT&T Wireless Services
Inc. (NYSE:<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=awe">AWE</A> -<A
HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=awe"> News</A>) and No. 4 Sprint PCS Group
(NYSE:<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=pcs">PCS</A> -<A
HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=pcs"> News</A>; NYSE:<A
HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=fon">FON</A> -<A
HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=fon"> News</A>), which both added fewer
customers than expected.

10-29-2003, 06:44 PM

CAT0NHAT wrote:

> Lets start over. Here is the Reuters story that Sprint apologists try to
> go OFF TOPIC on so it wont be discussed. SprintPCS is losing money, if
> they keep it up they WILL go out of business.
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/031028/telec...ireless_4.html
>
> Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:<A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nxtl">NXTL</A><A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nxtl">
> </A> -<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=nxtl"> News</A>), the
> nation's fifth-largest wireless operator, kicked off the quarterly
> earnings season with strong results, but analysts were disappointed by No.
> 3 AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:<A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=awe">AWE</A> -<A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=awe"> News</A>) and No. 4 Sprint PCS
> Group (NYSE:<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=pcs">PCS</A> -<A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=pcs"> News</A>; NYSE:<A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=fon">FON</A> -<A
> HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=fon"> News</A>), which both added
> fewer customers than expected.

Worldcom and Enron were both profitable too- that really shows the strength
of a company, doesn't it?

10-29-2003, 07:41 PM

Curious - the article says nothing about either Verizon's or Sprint's profitability.

So what was your point?

cat0nhat@aol.com (CAT0NHAT) wrote in message news:<20031029180547.04560.00000399@mb-m14.aol.com>...
> Lets start over. Here is the Reuters story that Sprint apologists try to go OFF
> TOPIC on so it wont be discussed. SprintPCS is losing money, if they keep it up
> they WILL go out of business.
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/031028/telec...ireless_4.html
>

10-29-2003, 08:41 PM

Well there IS a good thing to come out of it, IF sprint ever did go out of
business... We wouldnt have to listen to Phil whining anymore.. But I don't
have to listen to it, becuz I have ALL of his Id blocked, and each time I
see a new one, I block it too

"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:i2_nb.604$Y26.562239@news2.news.adelphia.net. ..
> CAT0NHAT wrote:
>
> > Lets start over. Here is the Reuters story that Sprint apologists try to
> > go OFF TOPIC on so it wont be discussed. SprintPCS is losing money, if
> > they keep it up they WILL go out of business.
> >
> > http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/031028/telec...ireless_4.html
> >
> > Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:<A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nxtl">NXTL</A><A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=nxtl">
> > </A> -<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=nxtl"> News</A>), the
> > nation's fifth-largest wireless operator, kicked off the quarterly
> > earnings season with strong results, but analysts were disappointed by
No.
> > 3 AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:<A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=awe">AWE</A> -<A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=awe"> News</A>) and No. 4 Sprint
PCS
> > Group (NYSE:<A HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=pcs">PCS</A> -<A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=pcs"> News</A>; NYSE:<A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=fon">FON</A> -<A
> > HREF="http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=fon"> News</A>), which both added
> > fewer customers than expected.
>
>
> Worldcom and Enron were both profitable too- that really shows the
strength
> of a company, doesn't it?

10-29-2003, 09:04 PM

Big Poppa wrote:

> Well there IS a good thing to come out of it, IF sprint ever did go out of
> business... We wouldnt have to listen to Phil whining anymore.. But I
> don't have to listen to it, becuz I have ALL of his Id blocked, and each
> time I see a new one, I block it too

>

Naw- he'd just end up on whatever group belonged to the company that buys
them and whine about the way they wrong him. I've decided that he is the
internet version of the clap- you can get a shot to cure it (plonk him),
but if you're not careful, it comes back with a vengeance (another name),
and it is such a pain in the ass to deal with in the mean time.

I'd plonk him in a heartbeat, but my parents taught me to be kind to dumb
animals.

10-30-2003, 05:05 AM

Scott Stephenson wrote:
> *
> Worldcom and Enron were both profitable too- that really shows the
> strength
> of a company, doesn't it? *

Don't forget it took Amazon.com a very long time (longer than PCS has
been around) to post a profit, too.

That site (as stated before) says nothing about SprintPCS losing
money.

It is true that Sprint Corp posted a $500M consolidated (sp?) loss, but
that also includes a $1.2B write-off for some wireless internet
project.

Do the math, looks like if it wasn't for that, they (Sprint Corp)would
have posted a $700M profit.

Also interesting how he kees on bragging (complaining?) that Sprint PCS
is never making a profit, yet also wants every phone thats ever been
made to be recalled, for Sprint PCS to have engineers testing every
inch of a network, to hire more customer service reps, expand coverage
and capacity..

Sounds like a double standard. Luckily for him, he wins either way.

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10-30-2003, 06:21 AM

good to see Tech Geek back here. He has posted some helpful information for
problems users have had. Too bad he jumped in on the wrong side of this
argument.

> *
> Worldcom and Enron were both profitable too- that > really shows the
> strength of a company, doesn't it? *

Worldcom and Enron were cooking their books.
You folks suggesting that SprintPCS do that too?

A strength of a company is if it is increasing market share, then current
losses may be overlooked. (i.e. DirecTv) That is not the case with SprintPCS.
It is losing market share to Nextel and Verizon.

So which of the Sprinbt apologists has bought stock in SprintPCS this week, or
do they not really want to put their money where their mouth is?

=============
I don't work for Sprint
I don't try to defend them.
I just use its network cause its cheap.

10-30-2003, 06:26 PM

CAT0NHAT wrote:

> good to see Tech Geek back here. He has posted some helpful information
> for problems users have had. Too bad he jumped in on the wrong side of
> this argument.
>
>> *
>> Worldcom and Enron were both profitable too- that > really shows the
>> strength of a company, doesn't it? *
>
> Worldcom and Enron were cooking their books.
> You folks suggesting that SprintPCS do that too?

Nope- just pointing out companies that posted quarter after quarter of
profit, only to implode.
>
> A strength of a company is if it is increasing market share, then current
> losses may be overlooked. (i.e. DirecTv) That is not the case with
> SprintPCS. It is losing market share to Nextel and Verizon.

They added subscibers- how is that a loss?

>
> So which of the Sprinbt apologists has bought stock in SprintPCS this
> week, or do they not really want to put their money where their mouth is?
>
> =============
> I don't work for Sprint
> I don't try to defend them.
> I just use its network cause its cheap.

No, you use the network because nobody else will have your whiney ass.

10-31-2003, 07:37 AM

"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:LSiob.1153$Y26.811596@news2.news.adelphia.net ...
> CAT0NHAT wrote:
>
>
>
> No, you use the network because nobody else will have your whiney ass.

Hey, isn't it time for Phillipe to change his name again. Perhaps
WH1NEE_A$$ would work?

Tom Veldhouse

10-31-2003, 04:07 PM

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

>
> "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:LSiob.1153$Y26.811596@news2.news.adelphia.net ...
>> CAT0NHAT wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> No, you use the network because nobody else will have your whiney ass.
>
> Hey, isn't it time for Phillipe to change his name again. Perhaps
> WH1NEE_A$$ would work?
>
> Tom Veldhouse

I kind of like WH1NEE_A$$_WOULDNT_KNOW_A FACT_IF_IT_BIT ME_IN_THE A$$

10-31-2003, 04:18 PM

> I kind of like WH1NEE_A$$_WOULDNT_KNOW_A
> FACT_IF_IT_BIT ME_IN_THE A$$

Lame attempt by Sprint apologist Scott to obsfuscate. The Reuters story tells
the facts. Too bad they're not to your liking. SprintPCS is losing money, and
thats a fact

10-31-2003, 04:54 PM

CAT0NHAT wrote:

>> I kind of like WH1NEE_A$$_WOULDNT_KNOW_A
>> FACT_IF_IT_BIT ME_IN_THE A$$
>
> Lame attempt by Sprint apologist Scott to obsfuscate. The Reuters story
> tells the facts. Too bad they're not to your liking. SprintPCS is losing
> money, and thats a fact

Actually, I though it was a pretty accurate attempt to label you for what
you are- a whiney, factless, emotionally challenged troll. Can anyone say
"Napoleon Syndrome"?

Where did anyone say that Sprint made money last quarter?

One news story does not represent an accurate protratyal. Truly intelligent
people take their facts from a variety of sources, and not a single news
item that you have obviously misinterpreted, based on the stupid numbers
you have thrown around in other threads. And I won't ask of the other
questions- you have proven your lack of knowledge about anything by your
failure to answer even the most basic questions in this group.

10-31-2003, 05:02 PM

> One news story does not represent an accurate
> protratyal.

Sorry, I have no reason to disbelieve a Reuters news story, but do do disbelive
your aplogizing for Sprint.

10-31-2003, 05:08 PM

CAT0NHAT wrote:

>> One news story does not represent an accurate
>> protratyal.
>
> Sorry, I have no reason to disbelieve a Reuters news story, but do do
> disbelive your aplogizing for Sprint.

But I don't apologize- you've never been able to prove it. THe true
translation of 'Sprint apologist' when used by you is- "Those people who
use facts to show Phil as the true fool he is."

10-31-2003, 05:48 PM

> But I don't apologize- you've never been able to
> prove it. THe true
> translation of 'Sprint apologist' when used by you > is- "Those people who
> use facts

Nope, a Sprint apologist like scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net

is one who would argue with valid information from a reputable source like JD
Power or Reuters News, because it has stories not their liking about Sprint,
and then call names those who would dare to post such stories. Sorry it upsets
you that SprintPCs is losing money, losing market share, has a high churn rate,
and is expected to be a WLNP loser. I just post the URLs.

Let me assure you, calling me names will only assure my continued posting, Mr.
Apologist.