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- 11-01-2003, 07:38 PM #31mrtravelGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
Brian Wickham wrote:
> All quite beside the point. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you
> dowse a cell phone it is irrevocably killed?
I wouldn't be too sure of that. Many electronic devices come back to
life when they dry out.
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- 11-01-2003, 09:45 PM #32NobodyManGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:05:52 -0000, "Peter Fox" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"kl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:tio5qvg00d3ae7420a292lcqpd6f08pr9o@news...
>> Reach in and try to grab it, of course
>>
>> NEW YORK (Reuters) --Cell phone users have been known to complain about
>poor
>> service, but one New York man's mobile literally went down the toilet.
>>
>> The man was on a suburban train from Grand Central Station on Wednesday
>night
>> when he went to the bathroom to make a phone call, dropped the phone into
>the
>> toilet bowl and then his hand and arm became stuck trying to retrieve it,
>> officials said.
>>
>> Metro-North Railroad staff could not help the man, so they stopped the
>train and
>> called police officers and firefighters to extricate him, a process that
>took 90
>> minutes using "jaws of life" rescue equipment.
>>
>> "The toilets are made of aluminum so I imagine he was down on hands and
>knees
>> with his shirt rolled up and hand and arm down inside, trying to flush out
>his
>> cell phone," said Jim Cameron of the Connecticut Metro-North commuter
>council.
>>
>> He said that because of the design of the train toilet, the mobile
>probably
>> ended up in a chemical holding tank.
>>
>> A spokesman for the railroad that serves the northern suburbs of New York
>and
>> Connecticut identified the man as Edwin Gallard, 41, of New York, who
>suffered a
>> minor injury to his arm as firefighters cut the toilet apart.
>>
>> The track was closed and thousands of commuters were delayed during the
>evening
>> rush hour.
>
>But why could not the train continue its journey while this was going on?
>
>Peter Fox
>
Yea, I'm sure you want somoebody with the jaws of life and/or a
cutting torch right up in your face while the train is moving,
jiggling side/side, speeding up/slowing down (as all trains do), etc.
- 11-01-2003, 09:47 PM #33Phil KaneGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 01:00:48 GMT, Brian Wickham wrote:
>All quite beside the point. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you
>dowse a cell phone it is irrevocably killed? Ask a rep at a cell
>phone store what the number one cause of returned dead phones is.
>People dropped them in the toilet.
>
>This guy was on a fool's errand.
Maybe not if he needed the dead phone to exchange for a good one.
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- 11-01-2003, 09:47 PM #34Phil KaneGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 01:37:34 GMT, mrtravel wrote:
>
>Phil Kane wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:51:21 GMT, mrtravel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>That would be nasty. Paying for his own rescue will probably be a
>>>>financial hardship as it is; there's no sense in bankrupting the guy
>>>>for a stupid mistake. It's not like he did it on purpose to create
>>>>havoc.
>>>
>>>Why should the railroad pay for his stupidity?
>>
>>
>> They do it all the time. Settling that way is cheaper than
>> defending a lawsuit even if they win same.
>
>They aren't defending, they would be the plaintiff.
If they sue him, he will counter sue for failure to maintain a safe
environment for the passenger, or maintaining a defective toilet or
some such claim, valid or otherwise.
In any event, it will cost the RR $$ to either bring their suit or to
defend against his suit or both.
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Phil Kane -- Beaverton, Oregon
PNW Milepost 754 -- Tillamook District
- 11-01-2003, 11:03 PM #35Brian WickhamGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 03:47:32 GMT, "Phil Kane"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 01:00:48 GMT, Brian Wickham wrote:
>
>>All quite beside the point. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you
>>dowse a cell phone it is irrevocably killed? Ask a rep at a cell
>>phone store what the number one cause of returned dead phones is.
>>People dropped them in the toilet.
>>
>>This guy was on a fool's errand.
>
> Maybe not if he needed the dead phone to exchange for a good one.
Maybe? Maybe it was really a ... oh forget it!. I have Verizon and
they offer a replacement-phone insurance policy that is not void if
you can't produce the dead phone. Do you honestly think that any
policy would not replace a lost phone?
If you don't have a policy and you bring in a dead, or violently
twitching, phone asking them to see if it will work they say last
rites over it and you buy a new one. If you bring them a dead phone
and tell them it was dropped in liquid they smile and perform the
above mentioned rites, and you buy a new one. The chip set in a phone
dropped in liquid shorts out fatally, even if some other people can
tell us about the transistor radio that survived high tide at the
beach.
Face facts. The guy wasn't thinking straight or was an ignorant fool.
As the prophet Kenny Rogers tells us, "You got to know when to hold,
and know when to fold."
Brian Wickham
- 11-01-2003, 11:08 PM #36mrtravelGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
Brian Wickham wrote:
The chip set in a phone
> dropped in liquid shorts out fatally, even if some other people can
> tell us about the transistor radio that survived high tide at the
> beach.
I have seen a wet phone dry out and work.
- 11-02-2003, 03:41 AM #37Randy HudsonGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
In article <[email protected]>,
Brian Wickham <bwickham@NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> The chip set in a phone dropped in liquid shorts out fatally, even if some
> other people can tell us about the transistor radio that survived high
> tide at the beach.
My cell phone has been immersed twice. Each time it died for a few days,
then recovered. While cell phones are mostly not designed to survive after
immersion, sometimes they do.
--
Randy Hudson
- 11-02-2003, 04:56 AM #38Jon PorterGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
"Peter Fox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "kl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:tio5qvg00d3ae7420a292lcqpd6f08pr9o@news...
> > Reach in and try to grab it, of course
> >
> > NEW YORK (Reuters) --Cell phone users have been known to complain about
> poor
> > service, but one New York man's mobile literally went down the toilet.
> >
> > The man was on a suburban train from Grand Central Station on Wednesday
> night
> > when he went to the bathroom to make a phone call, dropped the phone
into
> the
> > toilet bowl and then his hand and arm became stuck trying to retrieve
it,
> > officials said.
> >
> > Metro-North Railroad staff could not help the man, so they stopped the
> train and
> > called police officers and firefighters to extricate him, a process that
> took 90
> > minutes using "jaws of life" rescue equipment.
> >
> > "The toilets are made of aluminum so I imagine he was down on hands and
> knees
> > with his shirt rolled up and hand and arm down inside, trying to flush
out
> his
> > cell phone," said Jim Cameron of the Connecticut Metro-North commuter
> council.
> >
> > He said that because of the design of the train toilet, the mobile
> probably
> > ended up in a chemical holding tank.
> >
> > A spokesman for the railroad that serves the northern suburbs of New
York
> and
> > Connecticut identified the man as Edwin Gallard, 41, of New York, who
> suffered a
> > minor injury to his arm as firefighters cut the toilet apart.
> >
> > The track was closed and thousands of commuters were delayed during the
> evening
> > rush hour.
>
> But why could not the train continue its journey while this was going on?
>
> Peter Fox
>
>
Fingers, metal, cutting equipment and a moving train, not a good combination
perhaps?
- 11-02-2003, 06:03 AM #39Bill HaylesGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 01:00:48 GMT, Brian Wickham
<bwickham@NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>All quite beside the point. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you
>dowse a cell phone it is irrevocably killed?
I've been following this with interest. I managed to drop my phone
down my own home toilet. Without thinking, I put my hand down there
and retrieved it, but enough of that.
The point is that I took it apart, dried all the bits very
carefully, and after a day or so put it back together. It still
works perfectly.
--
Bill Hayles
[email protected]
http://billnot.com
- 11-02-2003, 06:08 AM #40Dan PendragonGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
In article <[email protected]>,
Bill Hayles <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 01:00:48 GMT, Brian Wickham
> <bwickham@NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >All quite beside the point. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you
> >dowse a cell phone it is irrevocably killed?
>
> I've been following this with interest. I managed to drop my phone
> down my own home toilet. Without thinking, I put my hand down there
> and retrieved it, but enough of that.
>
> The point is that I took it apart, dried all the bits very
> carefully, and after a day or so put it back together. It still
> works perfectly.
If it falls into dirty water/the ocean, you'd remove the battery, rinse
it in distilled water, then dry, and leave 24 hours to further dry.
- 11-02-2003, 07:59 AM #41Farmer AlfalfaGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
"Jess" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Candide <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/01/ny...8354000&en=98e
6658dcb73ecc9&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
>
>
> Best part of the article:
>
> Diana Finlay, a hospital administrator waiting for a train to take her
> home to Fishkill, N.Y., agreed. "I think it's pretty lousy of them to
> expect him to cover the cost," she said. "Do they go after the people
> who are attempting suicide on the tracks when they have to stop the
> trains for them?"
>
> LOL !
If they hadn't already thought of that.....
Imagine having to have post-life insurance!
F A
- 11-02-2003, 08:21 AM #42The SPCS GuyGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
#1, If I dropped my phone in a PUBLIC TOILET wehre everyone else done
****ted and pissed, it CAN STAY THERE. I don't know what other people
got!
That hand gon be permanently contamintaed with gook! He should cut it
off.
It's always some idiot with LOTS a cash that don't wanna spend it.
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- 11-02-2003, 09:21 AM #43VikasGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
kl <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<tio5qvg00d3ae7420a292lcqpd6f08pr9o@news>...
> Reach in and try to grab it, of course
>
> NEW YORK (Reuters) --Cell phone users have been known to complain about poor
> service, but one New York man's mobile literally went down the toilet.
> A spokesman for the railroad that serves the northern suburbs of New York and
> Connecticut identified the man as Edwin Gallard, 41, of New York, who
I read in Star Ledger he is from Brooklyn, New York
- 11-02-2003, 09:32 AM #44Brian WickhamGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:03:07 GMT, Bill Hayles <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 01:00:48 GMT, Brian Wickham
><bwickham@NO~SPAM.nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>All quite beside the point. Doesn't everyone know by now that if you
>>dowse a cell phone it is irrevocably killed?
>
>I've been following this with interest. I managed to drop my phone
>down my own home toilet. Without thinking, I put my hand down there
>and retrieved it, but enough of that.
>
>The point is that I took it apart, dried all the bits very
>carefully, and after a day or so put it back together. It still
>works perfectly.
I stand corrected. My experience is just the opposite but then it
might be a function of the particular cell phone in question. My
wife's high-end Motorola went nuts when water was spilled into her
handbag. The Verizon tech confirmed that it was permanently damaged
and had to be replaced. I had let it dry out, but to no avail.
Brian Wickham
- 11-02-2003, 12:57 PM #45Graeme WallGuest
Re: If your cell phone falls in the toilet, what you gonna do
In message <[email protected]>
mrtravel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Brian Wickham wrote:
>
> The chip set in a phone
> > dropped in liquid shorts out fatally, even if some other people can
> > tell us about the transistor radio that survived high tide at the
> > beach.
>
> I have seen a wet phone dry out and work.
>
If the liquid is water then it probably will, Uric acid, on the other hand...
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