CAn I activate Verizon on a Spint PCS phone?

This may be a stupid question, but since both Verizon Wireless and
Sprint PCS uses CDMA, does this mean that I can use Verizon service on a
Sprint phone(ex.SamsungA500)?

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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:54:39 -0000, myidismike@daum.net (chang lee)
wrote:

>This may be a stupid question, but since both Verizon Wireless and
>Sprint PCS uses CDMA, does this mean that I can use Verizon service on a
>Sprint phone(ex.SamsungA500)?

Not without the subsidiary lock code, you can't.

chang lee wrote:
> This may be a stupid question, but since both Verizon Wireless and
> Sprint PCS uses CDMA, does this mean that I can use Verizon service on a
> Sprint phone(ex.SamsungA500)?
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.
However, there are some "subsidiaries" of the native Verizon Wireless
network that are not owned by Verizon Wireless, and they may or may not
update your phone for use on Verizon networks.

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About Dakota wrote:
> Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.
> However, there are some "subsidiaries" of the native Verizon Wireless
> network that are not owned by Verizon Wireless, and they may or may
> not update your phone for use on Verizon networks.
>
> AD

This is not true. Verizon will activate a trimode phone from another carrier
if it is unlocked. I have several Motorola V120c's, a TalkAbout, Kyocera's
and Nokia 6185's that are being used or have been used with Verizon that
came from Sprint PCS. Sprint PCS will not activate a phone from another
provider.

Rod wrote:
> About Dakota wrote:
>
>>Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.
>>However, there are some "subsidiaries" of the native Verizon Wireless
>>network that are not owned by Verizon Wireless, and they may or may
>>not update your phone for use on Verizon networks.
>>
>>AD
>
>
> This is not true. Verizon will activate a trimode phone from another carrier
> if it is unlocked. I have several Motorola V120c's, a TalkAbout, Kyocera's
> and Nokia 6185's that are being used or have been used with Verizon that
> came from Sprint PCS. Sprint PCS will not activate a phone from another
> provider.
>
>

I guess I stand corrected then. I have a letter from Verizon stating
they WILL NOT activate phone from other carriers (even phones unlucked,
or with MSL's) because the Verizon billing software will not work
correctly with those phone for roaming purposes. However, I have never
known a large corporation to be 100% accurate.

The letter was a reply from an inquiry about activating 25 Audiovox
CDM-9155 GPX's previously on use with Western Wireless d/b/a
CellularOne(West).

What market do you live in? These phones were going to be activated in
Fargo, ND; Bismarck, ND; and Minot, ND.

I'm also glad you had good luck. Did you have to do a lot of probing to
get SPCS MSL's? Or did they come unlocked. I'm just wondering.

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About Dakota wrote:
> I guess I stand corrected then. I have a letter from Verizon stating
> they WILL NOT activate phone from other carriers (even phones
> unlucked,
> or with MSL's) because the Verizon billing software will not work
> correctly with those phone for roaming purposes. However, I have
> never
> known a large corporation to be 100% accurate.

Just get the MSL's, change the code to six zeros and call in the ESN change.
The only way this won't work is if the phone is not trimode or the phone has
been disabled to where you can't change the MSL .

> The letter was a reply from an inquiry about activating 25 Audiovox
> CDM-9155 GPX's previously on use with Western Wireless d/b/a
> CellularOne(West).

I'm not sure but these phones might already be unlocked. You need to find
the programing instructions and try to program them. If it asks for the code
then you know.

> What market do you live in? These phones were going to be activated
> in Fargo, ND; Bismarck, ND; and Minot, ND.

I live in the Dallas/Ft Worth area.
One thing to remember, don't tell them they aren't Verizon phones and you
will be alright.


> I'm also glad you had good luck. Did you have to do a lot of probing
> to
> get SPCS MSL's? Or did they come unlocked. I'm just wondering.

Nope, I just got them from the salesmen when I bought them or got them from
the online activation at Sprint's web site.
The Kyocera 1135's I bought for 19.99 each when Sprint had the big sale a
while back had the codes on the box under a sticker that had the PRL 10019
on them. What's funny is when I activted them Verizon said they were 2135's.

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:06:56 -0500, About Dakota
<aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.

I don't know who told you that, but I've used "foreign" phones on my
Verizon account - a Sprint 6035 among them. (How I got the MSL is
another story.) And it was Verizon, not a "subsidiary", that
activated them.

Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
different than other carriers. Unless you do get a reseller to remove
the tech and reprogram the new tech, the phone cant work. Plus you have
to pay a fee to do this. Much easier to buy a phone...

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
<3djunvk9oe5r9850g3uab03dbq252cei66@Pern.rk>:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:06:56 -0500, About Dakota
> <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
>
> >Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.
>
> I don't know who told you that, but I've used "foreign" phones on my
> Verizon account - a Sprint 6035 among them. (How I got the MSL is
> another story.) And it was Verizon, not a "subsidiary", that
> activated them.

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Verizon uses CDMA at 800 & 1900 mhz and analog. The same technology used by
SprintPCS, Qwest, Alltel, Western Wireless, US Cellular and many other
carriers. I have successfully activated phones from other carriers on
verizon without any problems.


"m rae" <sweetpea123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vnuka7kn3tsa64@corp.supernews.com...
> Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
> different than other carriers. Unless you do get a reseller to remove
> the tech and reprogram the new tech, the phone cant work. Plus you have
> to pay a fee to do this. Much easier to buy a phone...
>
> Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
> <3djunvk9oe5r9850g3uab03dbq252cei66@Pern.rk>:
> > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:06:56 -0500, About Dakota
> > <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
> >
> > >Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.
> >
> > I don't know who told you that, but I've used "foreign" phones on my
> > Verizon account - a Sprint 6035 among them. (How I got the MSL is
> > another story.) And it was Verizon, not a "subsidiary", that
> > activated them.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:54:39 -0000, myidismike@daum.net (chang lee)
wrote:

>This may be a stupid question, but since both Verizon Wireless and
>Sprint PCS uses CDMA, does this mean that I can use Verizon service on a
>Sprint phone(ex.SamsungA500)?
>
>[posted via phonescoop.com]

I was able to do it with a Motorola Timeport 8767. The question
is...was it worth it?

To begin with, someone must supply you the subsidy lock code. Someone
in the Sprint newsgroup offered to send it to me if I E-mailed him my
ESN number. Much to my surprise I received the code a few hours
later.

A private dealer signed me on as a Verizon customer but couldn't get
the PRL to change. I learned that subsidy lock code had to be one
recognized by Verizon or all zeros (many dealers set the phones to
zeros) for *228 to work. I changed the code to zeros and I was able
to update the PRLs.

Many manufacturers have the phones customized for use on their
network. My dealer referred me to an associate dealer who
reprogrammed the phone to light up as a Verizon phone and follow
Verizon's sequences. It is not unusual for a dealer to sell the same
phone model to users on different networks. So, some dealers have the
software to accomplish this.

Verizon was unable to help me with any of these problems.

Another word of caution... If I sent the phone for repair the
manufacturer (Motorola) said that they would program the phone back to
Sprint because it had a Sprint ESN number. I was told this could be
avoided by sending the phone via Verizon for any repairs.
Fortunately, it's two years later, the phone works fine, and has never
needed repairs.

Well....was it worth it? Getting rid of Sprint was worth it, but the
phone ordeals probably weren't.

On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:01:27 -0000, sweetpea123@yahoo.com (m rae)
posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
><3djunvk9oe5r9850g3uab03dbq252cei66@Pern.rk>:
>> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:06:56 -0500, About Dakota
>> <aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>> >Verizon Wireless will not activate a phone that is not sold by them.

>> I don't know who told you that, but I've used "foreign" phones on my
>> Verizon account - a Sprint 6035 among them. (How I got the MSL is
>> another story.) And it was Verizon, not a "subsidiary", that
>> activated them.

>Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
>different than other carriers.

Again, I don't know who's feeding you your incorrect information.
Both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA. In fact, over the years, some of
the phones they've offered have been the same phone.

>Unless you do get a reseller to remove the tech and reprogram the new tech

You can't "program" a TDMA phone to talk CDMA. You have to replace
the phone. But, since both Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, that's not a
problem. Only getting the MSL used to be.

>Plus you have to pay a fee to do this. Much easier to buy a phone...

A fee to tell a verizon rep to change your ESN? No. You call *611 (I
think you can do it on line these days), ask for the ESN change, wait
a few minutes after they say it's done, dial *228 (or the appropriate
number if you're on PCS), hit 1, wait for the phone to disconnect from
the call and you're done. Hardly even an effort, let alone a fee.

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 19:26:10 -0600, "Clay" <john@doe.com> posted in
alt.cellular.verizon:

>Verizon uses CDMA at 800 & 1900 mhz and analog. The same technology used by
>SprintPCS, Qwest, Alltel, Western Wireless, US Cellular and many other
>carriers. I have successfully activated phones from other carriers on
>verizon without any problems.

When reality and theory conflict, some people think it's reality
that's wrong.

m rae wrote:
> Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
> different than other carriers. Unless you do get a reseller to remove
> the tech and reprogram the new tech, the phone cant work. Plus you
> have to pay a fee to do this. Much easier to buy a phone...

You sound like a cellular saleperson who's trying to sell someone a new
phone. Read up on the subject before you go spouting off about things you
don't know about.

ha! so much you know. I am a sales person, but not out to sell phones.
however, its doesnt take a genius like yourself to know that you cant
activate a 'foreign' phn on another network. Its ok though, try it.
These agts you go to will tell you its ok...till you call VZW and say"
um, i cant get my all tell phone or sprnt phone to work, it wont
program, uh, what do i do?" I deal with you every day.

"Rod" <cellular-dude@sprintpcs.com> wrote in article
<blsffg$fvehm$1@ID-57098.news.uni-berlin.de>:
> m rae wrote:
> > Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
> > different than other carriers. Unless you do get a reseller to remove
> > the tech and reprogram the new tech, the phone cant work. Plus you
> > have to pay a fee to do this. Much easier to buy a phone...
>
> You sound like a cellular saleperson who's trying to sell someone a new
> phone. Read up on the subject before you go spouting off about things you
> don't know about.
>
>

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and by the way, why do you think people like you go on this website? TO
ASK STUPID QUESTIONS AND HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
ABOUT ANSWER THEM MORON!!!

"Rod" <cellular-dude@sprintpcs.com> wrote in article
<blsffg$fvehm$1@ID-57098.news.uni-berlin.de>:
> m rae wrote:
> > Should not be possible. Vzw operates on another nertwork technology
> > different than other carriers. Unless you do get a reseller to remove
> > the tech and reprogram the new tech, the phone cant work. Plus you
> > have to pay a fee to do this. Much easier to buy a phone...
>
> You sound like a cellular saleperson who's trying to sell someone a new
> phone. Read up on the subject before you go spouting off about things you
> don't know about.
>
>

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