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Old 11-22-2003, 07:00 AM   #1
ImKukie
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Matapalo <matapalo54@yahoo.com> wrote
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> Your signature comment about why can't children read the bible in
> school but prisoners can read it while incarcerated?
>
> I think the answer lies where most of God's truths (laws) lie - in the
> universal laws of "cause and effect" of which the law of "supply and
> demand" conforms too. Given the choice, most children would NOT want
> to read the bible in school. They don't need it. They don't want to
> read it. Prisoners? Well, what better place to get religion? There
> is definitely demand in that market.
>
> Jesus told people to take care of the ill, poor and those in prison.
> He said absolutely nothing about administering to the healthy.
>
> They don't need a physician.
>
> Think about it.
>
> Also think about this. You can have a handful of seed and divide it
> into two equal parts. You can cast one part into a piece of ground
> you are standing on in January and the frozen earth will not receive
> the seed. Yet throw the other part of identical seed onto the
> identical ground in April, and behold, a harvest awaits you.
>
> Like it is written, "To everything there is a season, and a time to
> every purpose under heaven...."
>
> People aren't going to get it until they are READY to get it.
>
> We see it throughout our lives.
>
> For example, the woman who stays with the drunken, abusive husband
> even though her friends and support network are unanimous in their
> support for her to leave and even when a fool can see the truth.
>
> The drug addict or alcoholic who won't quit no matter what the
> consequences, no matter what the cost. Why? Because pain and
> punishment are not enough to lead a man from his folly.
>
> But give him something he likes more than drinking, more than getting
> high - and watch him move mountains!
>
> A man will always move when he is called from the LESSER PLEASURE to
> the GREATER PLEASURE. Not when he gets punished or hurt for seeking
> his pleasure, for pursuing his desires.
>
> God works more through the positive principle (growth) than the
> negative (pain and consequences).
>
> Be glad for those whose crimes lead them to implore their God to make
> his presence known.
>
> And those school children? Don't worry about them. In the future, in
> prison, in marriage or somewhere else in life they will implore their
> God to re-establish his presence. They will issue the invitation when
> the season is nigh.
>
> Do you think a good father will let one of his children perish? No.
> God is pretty godly that way. He gives you all the rope you need, but
> he won't let one of his own perish unless it suits his purpose - a
> purpose man is given not to know.
>


I liked your answer to my signature. What I actually ment by that was Why
wait till they are in prison before its ok.
Seperation of church & state... Why is it not ok to let kids read their
bibles in school but it is ok to let them read it in prison?
In both situations is voluntary.




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Old 11-22-2003, 01:01 PM   #2
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"ImKukie" <pcards1@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<bpnq9n$1qvqcs$1@ID-158933.news.uni-berlin.de>...


> I liked your answer to my signature. What I actually ment by that was Why
> wait till they are in prison before its ok.
> Seperation of church & state... Why is it not ok to let kids read their
> bibles in school but it is ok to let them read it in prison?
> In both situations is voluntary.


If religion is indeed the opium of the masses, we don't want our
children drugged, but any calming influence to prisoners is certainly
helpful.
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