Re: Verizon Internet Access

I haven't been in this newsgroup for a log time. Last time here, there
seemed to still be a lot of disagreement as to whether America Choice
plans included this free Internet Access. How does it look at this time?



"Steve Crow KG4PEQ" <shackman1945@newsfeeds.com> wrote in
news:3f2b37d9_3@news.Usenet.com:

>
> Actually, the same number is used for both services unless you're
> using an Aircard (then the numbers are #QNC and #1XRTT... #762 and
> #19788).
>
> To connect with QNC, you'll need to add the initialization string:
> AT$QCMDR=2;AT$QCQNC=1
> to your dialer and log in as user 'qnc' password 'qnc'.
>
> To connect with Express Network reliably, you'll need to add the
> initialization string:
> AT$QCMDR=3;AT$QCQNC=0
> to your dialer and log in using phonenumber@vzw3g.com, password 'vzw'.
>
> Steve
>
> "Reed" <reed@NO.SPAMrinn.com> wrote:
>>Tom,
>>
>>#777 always connects to Express Network. There is a different number
>>for the older QNC connection, but I don't recall what it is.
>>
>>If you didn't sign up your LG4400 for an Express Network plan, you
>>are probably just using Express Network on your regular minutes when
>>you dial #777.
>>
>>-Reed

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Tom McCune <news@delete_thismccune.cc> wrote:
: I haven't been in this newsgroup for a log time. Last time here, there
: seemed to still be a lot of disagreement as to whether America Choice
: plans included this free Internet Access. How does it look at this time?

If you mean does it include what is now called "National Access", the
ability to connect your computer to Verison's data network via your
cell phone and/or a wireless (non-WiFi) card? Yes. I use it
regularly with my America's Choice plan and my Nokia 3589i. Works
great for checking my email in a pinch, but because it uses voice
minutes I tend to use it only evenings/weekends. But there is no
extra cost for data use at all, beyond using voice minutes.

Andrew
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Yes it is working pretty well. I usually connect at about 128k which is
decent for checking email and such. It does eat your minutes though, so
watch your usage.
Mike
"Andrew" <usenetMYSHOES@bizaveMYSHOES.com> wrote in message
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> Tom McCune <news@delete_thismccune.cc> wrote:
> : I haven't been in this newsgroup for a log time. Last time here, there
> : seemed to still be a lot of disagreement as to whether America Choice
> : plans included this free Internet Access. How does it look at this
time?
>
> If you mean does it include what is now called "National Access", the
> ability to connect your computer to Verison's data network via your
> cell phone and/or a wireless (non-WiFi) card? Yes. I use it
> regularly with my America's Choice plan and my Nokia 3589i. Works
> great for checking my email in a pinch, but because it uses voice
> minutes I tend to use it only evenings/weekends. But there is no
> extra cost for data use at all, beyond using voice minutes.
>
> Andrew
> --
> ----> Portland, Oregon, USA <----
> ************************************************** *****************
> ----> http://www.bizave.com <---- Photo Albums and Portland Info
> ----> To Email me remove "MYSHOES" from email address
> ************************************************** *****************
>

Andrew & Mike,

Thank you very much for your replies.

I just tried on connectoids I had set up long ago. The one with the qnc
user name did not connect, but the one with the user name of
telephonenumber@vzw3g.com did. Download speed tests were 55, 31.2, and
64.0. Downloading files averaged around 10Kbs, which is over twice what I
got long ago on dial up before moving to cable modem. Firewall testing
was all Stealth. So, I'm happy with the testing.

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>Andrew & Mike,
>
>Thank you very much for your replies.
>
>I just tried on connectoids I had set up long ago. The one with the qnc
>user name did not connect, but the one with the user name of
>telephonenumber@vzw3g.com did. Download speed tests were 55, 31.2, and
>64.0.

Now run the only real test which is at 2wire.com.

AndrewJ <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in
news:mvu9c010qmt9ja87vufege90bq3shn1cae@4ax.com:

>>I just tried on connectoids I had set up long ago. The one with the qnc
>>user name did not connect, but the one with the user name of
>>telephonenumber@vzw3g.com did. Download speed tests were 55, 31.2, and
>>64.0.
>
> Now run the only real test which is at 2wire.com.

I don't recall ever hearing of this test site. I got 63.4 and then 40.2.
After getting my port speed up to 230.4 from 115.2, I tried once and got
47.1. At port speed of 115.2 I was getting actual file download speeds at
56k dialup speed. At 230.4, I was getting about 1.5 56k dial up file
download speed. Compared to my usual RoadRunner speeds, this is terrible,
but when comparing to dial up options (such as what RoadRunner offers when
traveling), this looks pretty decent.

I wish it was better, but I think I'll be taking my laptop on vacation this
year.

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>
>>>I just tried on connectoids I had set up long ago. The one with the qnc
>>>user name did not connect, but the one with the user name of
>>>telephonenumber@vzw3g.com did. Download speed tests were 55, 31.2, and
>>>64.0.
>>
>> Now run the only real test which is at 2wire.com.
>
>I don't recall ever hearing of this test site. I got 63.4 and then 40.2.
>After getting my port speed up to 230.4 from 115.2, I tried once and got
>47.1. At port speed of 115.2 I was getting actual file download speeds at
>56k dialup speed. At 230.4, I was getting about 1.5 56k dial up file
>download speed. Compared to my usual RoadRunner speeds, this is terrible,
>but when comparing to dial up options (such as what RoadRunner offers when
>traveling), this looks pretty decent.
>
>I wish it was better, but I think I'll be taking my laptop on vacation this
>year.

There is something wrong there. I'm in a rural area and on my PDA
phone almost all 2wire tests are above 130Kbps. That's for everywhere
in my county over a 6 month period.

"AndrewJ" <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in message
news:7g9bc0to7idf4ndn9ic7t548i1u3t18pb1@4ax.com...
> There is something wrong there. I'm in a rural area and on my PDA
> phone almost all 2wire tests are above 130Kbps. That's for everywhere
> in my county over a 6 month period.

I suppose this is possible. Express network is theoretically capable of
144Kbps.

In a rural area whatever tower you are hitting is probably not loaded very
heavily and so it has plenty of spectrum to support data connections. Also,
it is not likely that anybody else is using data services on your tower...

-Eric

AndrewJ <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in
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> There is something wrong there. I'm in a rural area and on my PDA
> phone almost all 2wire tests are above 130Kbps. That's for everywhere
> in my county over a 6 month period.

I happened to think that since I had greatly increased my RWIN for cable
modem use, maybe that is slowing things down with the Verizon wireless
access. Lowering it from 128,480 to 64,240 had little effect. But
reducing it to 32,120 was noticable.

That 2wire site does not do well for me. Most of the time, the test does
not even complete, and it goes to what looks like a home page. But I
finally got a download of 73.2Kbps; however my next was at 30.1Kbps -
maybe because of whatever problems there are with that site.

My first good news with this lower RWIN is that one site tested at
130.2Kbps, and was repeated at 110.8 Kbps. Another site got 122.7 Kbps,
but then a repeat was about half that.

Actual download of three different files at different sites had Mozilla
reported download speeds of about 16KBp, 14KBps, and 15KBps. Those are a
good three times 56K dialup download speeds. So, the lowered RWIN is
working pretty darn good. It would be interesting to know if this is a
recommended RWIN for this access.

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>
>> There is something wrong there. I'm in a rural area and on my PDA
>> phone almost all 2wire tests are above 130Kbps. That's for everywhere
>> in my county over a 6 month period.
>
>I happened to think that since I had greatly increased my RWIN for cable
>modem use, maybe that is slowing things down with the Verizon wireless
>access. Lowering it from 128,480 to 64,240 had little effect. But
>reducing it to 32,120 was noticable.
>
>That 2wire site does not do well for me. Most of the time, the test does
>not even complete, and it goes to what looks like a home page. But I
>finally got a download of 73.2Kbps; however my next was at 30.1Kbps -
>maybe because of whatever problems there are with that site.
>
>My first good news with this lower RWIN is that one site tested at
>130.2Kbps, and was repeated at 110.8 Kbps. Another site got 122.7 Kbps,
>but then a repeat was about half that.
>
>Actual download of three different files at different sites had Mozilla
>reported download speeds of about 16KBp, 14KBps, and 15KBps. Those are a
>good three times 56K dialup download speeds. So, the lowered RWIN is
>working pretty darn good. It would be interesting to know if this is a
>recommended RWIN for this access.

MS claims it should be 65535 for a 144K connection. For sometime any
Verizon OTA updates set the NA phones to this. Many PDA phones had
been shipping at 33000. I can say for a fact that mine is way better
now that I set it to 55535.

On my i700 I used a free registry program(link below) to lower the TCP
size window to 55535(from 65535 on newer versions).
HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Parms\TcpWindowSize
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
Not a bad idea to backup your PPC before changing the registry.

AndrewJ <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in
news:9rtdc0pqct0h8osvnlb00gdctkek37dcrj@4ax.com:

> MS claims it should be 65535 for a 144K connection. For sometime any
> Verizon OTA updates set the NA phones to this. Many PDA phones had
> been shipping at 33000. I can say for a fact that mine is way better
> now that I set it to 55535.
>
> On my i700 I used a free registry program(link below) to lower the TCP
> size window to 55535(from 65535 on newer versions).
> HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Parms\TcpWindowSize
> http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
> Not a bad idea to backup your PPC before changing the registry.

Thank you. I may try 55535 when I get a chance (using free minutes
time).

I am surprised that I was not able to set a different setting for
Verizon. My wired setting and my 802.11b settings are different. So,
since 32,120 is working well for both 802.11b and Verizon, I might just
leave it set for this.

If wanting to easily change from one to the other, I think a couple
registry patches might be the way to go.

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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:54:47 -0400, AndrewJ <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove>
wrote:
>MS claims it should be 65535 for a 144K connection.

It depends on the latency. I use 65240 for an 8 MEGAbit/sec cable
connection, because the across-the-country latency is only 100 msec.
65535 is way too high for 144 kbits/sec, unless the round-trip latency is
something like 3 seconds!

See the RWIN calculator at http://www.dslreports.com/faq/677

Bob

>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:54:47 -0400, AndrewJ <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove>
>wrote:
>>MS claims it should be 65535 for a 144K connection.
>
>It depends on the latency. I use 65240 for an 8 MEGAbit/sec cable
>connection, because the across-the-country latency is only 100 msec.
>65535 is way too high for 144 kbits/sec, unless the round-trip latency is
>something like 3 seconds!
>
>See the RWIN calculator at http://www.dslreports.com/faq/677
>
>Bob

Thanks, web-geeks.com shows most ping times between 46 and 66 ms. So
that calculator puts the TCP at 1024.