changing your cell # may make better reception? stupid question

07-12-2004, 11:54 PM

talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.

Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.

any thoughts?

brian

07-13-2004, 06:52 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
<deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:

>talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
>eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
>number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
>think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
>since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
>call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
>phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.
>
>Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
>not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
>phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.
>
>any thoughts?
>
>brian
>
The opinion of most posters in this and the Howard Forums news groups
is that the reception on the VX 4500 is not as good as other phones
even within the LG line.

When I upgraded my Motorola V60i to the VX4500 I used it one day and
returned it for an LG VX6000. There was a noticable difference in
reception. The VX 6000 is good but not quite as good as my previous
V60i in reception or voice quality.

My daughter is a college student and uses her Verizon phone in a city
450 miles away. She finds no difference in the phone when home or
away.

We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.

Hope this helps

07-13-2004, 06:52 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
<deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:

>talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
>eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
>number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
>think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
>since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
>call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
>phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.
>
>Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
>not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
>phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.
>
>any thoughts?
>
>brian
>
The opinion of most posters in this and the Howard Forums news groups
is that the reception on the VX 4500 is not as good as other phones
even within the LG line.

When I upgraded my Motorola V60i to the VX4500 I used it one day and
returned it for an LG VX6000. There was a noticable difference in
reception. The VX 6000 is good but not quite as good as my previous
V60i in reception or voice quality.

My daughter is a college student and uses her Verizon phone in a city
450 miles away. She finds no difference in the phone when home or
away.

We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.

Hope this helps

07-13-2004, 07:13 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
<deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:

>talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
>eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
>number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
>think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
>since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
>call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
>phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.

Asking you to change your number to get better reception is nothing
but voodoo and has no basis in fact. If a Verizon tech advised you to
do that the technician should be *fired!*

>Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
>not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
>phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.

A different handset can make all the difference. It won't make up for
absolutely crappy reception, but some phones do work better than
others in fringe reception areas.

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07-13-2004, 07:13 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
<deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:

>talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
>eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
>number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower i
>think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
>since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
>call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
>phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number is.

Asking you to change your number to get better reception is nothing
but voodoo and has no basis in fact. If a Verizon tech advised you to
do that the technician should be *fired!*

>Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
>not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
>phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as well.

A different handset can make all the difference. It won't make up for
absolutely crappy reception, but some phones do work better than
others in fringe reception areas.

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07-13-2004, 07:16 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.

OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!

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07-13-2004, 07:16 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.

OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!

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07-13-2004, 09:12 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:16:20 -0700, Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
>>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.
>
>OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
>closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
>or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
>regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
>reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
>determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!
>
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Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
carrier.

A poster in NYC complained and was documented by Verizon that because
of the location of her apartment she was accessing a tower miles away
up the Hudson River rather than the towers and repeaters all over her
neighborhood.

I don't see you giving the guy any advice. What's your idea?

07-13-2004, 09:12 AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:16:20 -0700, Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:52:49 GMT, Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>We have the AC plan. If you have a local plan it might make a
>>difference in the way your phone works and which tower it responds to.
>
>OK, how do you rationalize that? A phone gets the signal from the
>closest tower that works with the service. If it's a local, national
>or regional plan the difference will be whether it's included in your
>regular airtime or whether it's charged as roaming. Other than that
>reception is reception. Where you got the idea that the plan
>determined what kind of reception you get is in a word amazing!
>
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Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
carrier.

A poster in NYC complained and was documented by Verizon that because
of the location of her apartment she was accessing a tower miles away
up the Hudson River rather than the towers and repeaters all over her
neighborhood.

I don't see you giving the guy any advice. What's your idea?

07-13-2004, 10:13 AM

What you need to do is to point the antenna toward the vicinity of the tower

S

"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vsn7f01fik1tq0erbegfkuu5kmjft6520e@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
> <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
office
> >eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change
my
> >number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower
i
> >think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> >since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> >call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> >phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number
is.
>
> Asking you to change your number to get better reception is nothing
> but voodoo and has no basis in fact. If a Verizon tech advised you to
> do that the technician should be *fired!*
>
> >Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> >not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
> >phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as
well.
>
> A different handset can make all the difference. It won't make up for
> absolutely crappy reception, but some phones do work better than
> others in fringe reception areas.
>
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07-13-2004, 10:13 AM

What you need to do is to point the antenna toward the vicinity of the tower

S

"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vsn7f01fik1tq0erbegfkuu5kmjft6520e@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:03 -0400, "Brian S."
> <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my
office
> >eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change
my
> >number so it would pull from a different tower. The location of the tower
i
> >think i am getting from is about 10 miles east of here. I had the number
> >since 1994 and they didnt have local numbers here. it is a toll call to
> >call my number from a landline. I didnt think it made any sense. as the
> >phone would get a signal from the closest cell no matter what the number
is.
>
> Asking you to change your number to get better reception is nothing
> but voodoo and has no basis in fact. If a Verizon tech advised you to
> do that the technician should be *fired!*
>
> >Have had about 4 different people visit, some with same carrier and some
> >not. they never dropped a call but close to it. I have the vx-4500.. only
> >phone that worked great in here is the 8900. the 4400 dropped them as
well.
>
> A different handset can make all the difference. It won't make up for
> absolutely crappy reception, but some phones do work better than
> others in fringe reception areas.
>
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07-13-2004, 10:56 AM

Brian S. <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
> talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
> eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
> number so it would pull from a different tower.

How would changing your number force your phone to acquire a different tower?

> any thoughts?

Whoever suggested this was a flaming idiot and should be fired.

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07-13-2004, 10:56 AM

Brian S. <deadhead73@comcast.net> wrote:
> talking to some technicians at vzw and i can not hold a signal in my office
> eventhough i am 1 foot to the window tops. He had suggested that i change my
> number so it would pull from a different tower.

How would changing your number force your phone to acquire a different tower?

> any thoughts?

Whoever suggested this was a flaming idiot and should be fired.

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07-13-2004, 10:56 AM

Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
> accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
> carrier.

But changing your PHONE NUMBER will have no effect.

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07-13-2004, 10:56 AM

Teddeli <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Local plans have different PRL's than AC plans You may not be
> accessing the same tower because you might be on an extended coverage
> carrier.

But changing your PHONE NUMBER will have no effect.

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