Samsung i600 Smartphone -vs- Kyocera 7135 Smartphone

Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and cons for
me ..

Thanks in advance....

BIlly wrote:
> Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
> can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and
> cons for me ..

I have the Kyocera 7135. I like it a lot. The downside is that it
appears to be nearing "end of life" as far as VZW goes. Mainly
means that you may not be able to buy from them any more. They
never really did much of a job with support on this phone/palm.

I'm not sure about the 600 feature set but the Kyocera has:

* tri-mode (includes analog)
* SD/MMC expansion card slot
* MP3 player (support for 3rd party player)
* flip
* good integration of phone side to palm side
* (small point) antenna length is 1/2 wave instead of 1/4
* no camera (big plus for me. not sure if 600 has one).

* Plam OS is 4.1

There are forums for both at www.pdaphonehome.com

BIlly wrote:
> Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
> can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and
> cons for me ..

I have the Kyocera 7135. I like it a lot. The downside is that it
appears to be nearing "end of life" as far as VZW goes. Mainly
means that you may not be able to buy from them any more. They
never really did much of a job with support on this phone/palm.

I'm not sure about the 600 feature set but the Kyocera has:

* tri-mode (includes analog)
* SD/MMC expansion card slot
* MP3 player (support for 3rd party player)
* flip
* good integration of phone side to palm side
* (small point) antenna length is 1/2 wave instead of 1/4
* no camera (big plus for me. not sure if 600 has one).

* Plam OS is 4.1

There are forums for both at www.pdaphonehome.com

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 13:39:28 -0700, "BIlly"
<billyjoebob5remove-Me-@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
>can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and cons for
>me ..

Well, main difference is Windows v.s. Palm. I'd rather not have a
phone with a control alt delete key, so I went with the Palm. Long
time 6035 user, now 7135 user.
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 13:39:28 -0700, "BIlly"
<billyjoebob5remove-Me-@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
>can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and cons for
>me ..

Well, main difference is Windows v.s. Palm. I'd rather not have a
phone with a control alt delete key, so I went with the Palm. Long
time 6035 user, now 7135 user.
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To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

i600 has some nice things going for it, and for me some very strong
negatives. You have to decide what you want from a pdaphone to see where
these things fall for you.

i600 positives
-very nice hires display
-profiles that work work with the calendar settings (a huge plus)
-direct syncing with ms outlook for contact, calendar
- compact (for a pdaphone), pocketable (I hate clips, cases)
- voice command that was unbelieveably good

i600 negatives
- poor caller id
- Gremlins everywhere (made for quirky behavior sometimes)
- Sluggish response to user inputs
- Lockups that required battery removal to reset (it is Windows you know)
- terrible outgoing audio quality with headphone jack. I tried many
headsets, on multiple i600's. Very bad when you have to use handsfree (a
major problem with this phone)
- moody activesync. Never knew when it was going to work or not. Often
required repeat tries.
- T9. What a miserable way to reply to emails and enter info.

I'm sure there's more for both lists, but these were what comes immeditely
to mind.

BTW- I finally gave up on the i600 after 3 replacements, even after
upgrading to 2003 and now use the Treo 600. I had to giveup profiles and
voice command with the Treo (and I do miss them a lot). But I have
dependability, access to a zillion third-party apps to add functionality and
productivity. And best of all, a real qwerty keyboard. This things an email
demon.




"BIlly" <billyjoebob5remove-Me-@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
> can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and cons
> for
> me ..
>
> Thanks in advance....
>
>

i600 has some nice things going for it, and for me some very strong
negatives. You have to decide what you want from a pdaphone to see where
these things fall for you.

i600 positives
-very nice hires display
-profiles that work work with the calendar settings (a huge plus)
-direct syncing with ms outlook for contact, calendar
- compact (for a pdaphone), pocketable (I hate clips, cases)
- voice command that was unbelieveably good

i600 negatives
- poor caller id
- Gremlins everywhere (made for quirky behavior sometimes)
- Sluggish response to user inputs
- Lockups that required battery removal to reset (it is Windows you know)
- terrible outgoing audio quality with headphone jack. I tried many
headsets, on multiple i600's. Very bad when you have to use handsfree (a
major problem with this phone)
- moody activesync. Never knew when it was going to work or not. Often
required repeat tries.
- T9. What a miserable way to reply to emails and enter info.

I'm sure there's more for both lists, but these were what comes immeditely
to mind.

BTW- I finally gave up on the i600 after 3 replacements, even after
upgrading to 2003 and now use the Treo 600. I had to giveup profiles and
voice command with the Treo (and I do miss them a lot). But I have
dependability, access to a zillion third-party apps to add functionality and
productivity. And best of all, a real qwerty keyboard. This things an email
demon.




"BIlly" <billyjoebob5remove-Me-@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Im looking for a better phone and I've decided on the above two
> can some users of the listed phones shed some light on the pros and cons
> for
> me ..
>
> Thanks in advance....
>
>

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:45:36 -0700, Proconsul wrote:

> Personally, I'll stick with the Kyocera 7135 - works better, IMO, hasn't
> shown any tendencies to be "flaky", phone quality is excellent, it's
> tri-mode, voice dialing is excellent AND Kyocera handsfree full duplex
> system that is voice commanded works great and is, IMO, superior to any
> other such system I've seen. PDA functions, including some third party date
> book improvements and Pocket Quicken are flawless. Syncs with Outlook
> flawlessly....! Hard to find anything to complain about....!
>
> Buy one in good condition on eBay and you, too, can have a solid
> performer......
>
> PC
>
So... do you recomend the 7135 over the Samnsung i700, then?

Me
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"..........most folks are about as happy as they make up to their minds to
be...." A. Lincoln

"Me" <spamsome1@else.net> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:45:36 -0700, Proconsul wrote:
|
| > Personally, I'll stick with the Kyocera 7135 - works better, IMO, hasn't
| > shown any tendencies to be "flaky", phone quality is excellent, it's
| > tri-mode, voice dialing is excellent AND Kyocera handsfree full duplex
| > system that is voice commanded works great and is, IMO, superior to any
| > other such system I've seen. PDA functions, including some third party
date
| > book improvements and Pocket Quicken are flawless. Syncs with Outlook
| > flawlessly....! Hard to find anything to complain about....!
| >
| > Buy one in good condition on eBay and you, too, can have a solid
| > performer......
| >
| > PC
| >
| So... do you recomend the 7135 over the Samnsung i700, then?

Others will disagree, but I think the 7135 is the best SmartPhone
available - the others are too "glitzy" and not tri-mode.....

PC




|
| Me
| --
| "..........most folks are about as happy as they make up to their minds to
| be...." A. Lincoln

Me wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:45:36 -0700, Proconsul wrote:
>
>> Personally, I'll stick with the Kyocera 7135 - works better, IMO,
>> hasn't shown any tendencies to be "flaky", phone quality is
>> excellent, it's tri-mode, voice dialing is excellent AND Kyocera
>> handsfree full duplex system that is voice commanded works great
>> and is, IMO, superior to any other such system I've seen. PDA
>> functions, including some third party date book improvements and
>> Pocket Quicken are flawless. Syncs with Outlook flawlessly....! Hard
>> to find anything to complain about....!
>>
>> Buy one in good condition on eBay and you, too, can have a solid
>> performer......
>>
>> PC
>>
> So... do you recomend the 7135 over the Samnsung i700, then?

I do but I've got a lot of history and investment in Palm experience and
apps.
I haven't heard much good about windows on PDAs/pocket PCs.

-Quick

Begin Proconsul quote:

; | So... do you recomend the 7135 over the Samnsung i700, then?

The i700 is a Windows Smartphone, right? I'd rather use anything else.
I do own and use the 7135.

; Others will disagree, but I think the 7135 is the best SmartPhone
; available - the others are too "glitzy" and not tri-mode.....

My only real wish for the 7135 is that it has a hires display. Maybe
we'll get lucky and Kyocera will add one to their next smartphone. A
7135 form factor with OS5 or 6, a hires display, and NO camera. And
maybe a thumbpad instead of Graffiti. I have no need for BT or WiFi,
but if those are there I can turn them off or find something to do with
them.

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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> My only real wish for the 7135 is that it has a hires display. Maybe
> we'll get lucky and Kyocera will add one to their next smartphone. A
> 7135 form factor with OS5 or 6, a hires display, and NO camera. And
> maybe a thumbpad instead of Graffiti. I have no need for BT or WiFi,
> but if those are there I can turn them off or find something to do
> with them.

Ewwww, no thumbpad please (dead weight).

-Quick

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:54:45 -0700, Quick wrote:

>> So... do you recomend the 7135 over the Samnsung i700, then?
>
> I do but I've got a lot of history and investment in Palm experience and
> apps.
> I haven't heard much good about windows on PDAs/pocket PCs.
>
> -Quick
The 7135 it is then, off i go to the vw store! thanks so much for you
feedback!

Me
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"..........most folks are about as happy as they make up to their minds to
be...." A. Lincoln