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Old 12-25-2004, 05:38 PM   #1
Steve Sobol
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Re: Cingular TAKE CHARGE promotion a total ripoff


bryan_adrian@yahoo.com wrote:
> I can't quit on the coffee, I have to stay awake to constantly be on
> the lookout for a job.


So what does your Cingular rant have to do with Verizon? I notice you didn't
post this to the Cingular newsgroup. Why?

> the perspective as a liferope to a job and survival. I spent the last
> of my non-food money on the Cingular cell phone service agreement as
> printed.


If you have no money and you're paying for a cell phone, you have no clue.

> Everywhere I turn there is an illegal immigrant taking a job. They are
> preferred over a legal immigrant due to freedom from labor laws and
> employment terms, both contractual and federal.


Oh, I see, this was an excuse for a political rant.


> -- This Cingular Take Charge service account cell phone scam is
> floating in the sewer also. One day we will all be OUTSOURCED to
> extinction and flushed.


Hm. I am willing to bet no one in the Verizon Wireless newsgroup gives a damn
about the problems Cingular might be having.

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Old 01-05-2005, 10:39 AM   #2
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Re: Cingular systems open door to fraudulent credit card transactions


In article <1104946344.582351.46160@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
bryan_adrian@yahoo.com wrote:

> http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupda...ns_door_to_fra
> udulent_credit_card_transactions.html
>
> Tech Update Web Technology
>
> David Berlind's Reality Check
>
>
> Cingular systems open door to fraudulent credit card transactions
>
> By David Berlind
> June 8, 2004
>
>
> Having often reported on issues relating to how easy it is to violate a
> consumer's privacy and the lengths to which enterprises must go to
> ensure the privacy of all of their constituents (customers, employees,
> stockholders, etc), I perked up when ZDNet reader Kevin Priester
> alerted me to a rather astonishing flaw in Cingular's newly launched
> online account management system.
>
>
> In an e-mail to me, Priester wrote, "I figured you might like this.
> Cingular has now implemented a new feature on their site that will
> allow you to look up basic account information with only a cell number
> and a zip code." That, by itself, is of course a privacy violation. But
> it gets worse. Kevin's note went on to say, "Once you find that basic
> account information, if the account holder has ever paid on
> Cingular.com you can pay their bill for them using their Credit Card or
> bank account. You can also pay their bill with their funds and as much
> of their funds as you would like." Later, via telephone, Priester
> informed me that the same security hole was available for exploitation
> via Cingular's telephone-based interactive voice response (IVR) system
> through 1-866-CINGULAR.


Sounds like the same defect Time-Warner Cable has.

I regularly use the web site of my credit card company to be aware of
what charges are showing up, and once or twice a year quickly dispute
anything questionable, 90% + of which have been resolved in my favor.
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