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Old 04-28-2005, 09:47 AM   #1
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Verizon adding net customers faster, lowest churn, complaints, fastest broadband


Summary from recent Verizon and Cingular and other press releases:

Verizon Wireless Q12005 results: 1.64 million net customers, total 45.5
million customers, churn 1.33%, and complaints 1.4 per 100,000
customers.
(3G) EV-DO network, the largest and fastest wide-area broadband network
in the nation. This network reached 75 million Americans at year-end
(2004) and is growing steadily.

Cingular Q12005 results: : 1.4 million net, total 50.4 million
customers, churn 2.2%, 4.6 complaints
Per 100,000 customers, Cingular expects to have UMTS/HSDPA deployed in
15 to 20 markets by the end of the year. (2005).
Currently has the slowest of the data networks,
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772832,00.asp



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Old 04-28-2005, 10:24 AM   #2
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But... what about Comcast? ... -

DoctorZ wrote:
> Summary from recent Verizon and Cingular and other press
> releases:
>
> Verizon Wireless Q12005 results: 1.64 million net
> customers, total 45.5 million customers, churn 1.33%, and
> complaints 1.4 per 100,000 customers.
> (3G) EV-DO network, the largest and fastest wide-area
> broadband network in the nation. This network reached 75
> million Americans at year-end (2004) and is growing
> steadily.
>
> Cingular Q12005 results: : 1.4 million net, total 50.4
> million customers, churn 2.2%, 4.6 complaints
> Per 100,000 customers, Cingular expects to have
> UMTS/HSDPA deployed in 15 to 20 markets by the end of the
> year. (2005).
> Currently has the slowest of the data networks,
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772832,00.asp



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Old 04-28-2005, 12:47 PM   #3
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Comcast has 18.3% of 40.5million available homes using their broadband
option.

Of course the cable keeps snapping off, whenever people leave their
house. No doubt Comcast is working on a virtual cable, so they can
offer internet and VOIP in cars. Then they can really compete with the
Verizon Wireless and Verizon's fiber to the home. ... -

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Old 04-28-2005, 04:19 PM   #4
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DoctorZ wrote:
> Summary from recent Verizon and Cingular and other press releases:
>
> Verizon Wireless Q12005 results: 1.64 million net customers, total 45.5
> million customers, churn 1.33%, and complaints 1.4 per 100,000
> customers.
> (3G) EV-DO network, the largest and fastest wide-area broadband network
> in the nation. This network reached 75 million Americans at year-end
> (2004) and is growing steadily.
>
> Cingular Q12005 results: : 1.4 million net, total 50.4 million
> customers, churn 2.2%, 4.6 complaints
> Per 100,000 customers, Cingular expects to have UMTS/HSDPA deployed in
> 15 to 20 markets by the end of the year. (2005).
> Currently has the slowest of the data networks,
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772832,00.asp
>


Now I see why a certain individual always declares that Cingular is a
much better choice. Cingular only has 3 times the complaints, almost
double the churn and gets fewer new customers. Or wait could it be the
fact that they have the slowest data network is what really makes them
much more attractive than VZW?
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Old 04-28-2005, 04:58 PM   #5
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In news:9aednek3Xfnn_OzfRVn-hg@adelphia.com,
George <george@nospam.invalid> typed:
> DoctorZ wrote:
>> Summary from recent Verizon and Cingular and other press releases:
>>
>> Verizon Wireless Q12005 results: 1.64 million net customers, total
>> 45.5 million customers, churn 1.33%, and complaints 1.4 per 100,000
>> customers.
>> (3G) EV-DO network, the largest and fastest wide-area broadband
>> network in the nation. This network reached 75 million Americans at
>> year-end (2004) and is growing steadily.
>>
>> Cingular Q12005 results: : 1.4 million net, total 50.4 million
>> customers, churn 2.2%, 4.6 complaints
>> Per 100,000 customers, Cingular expects to have UMTS/HSDPA deployed
>> in 15 to 20 markets by the end of the year. (2005).
>> Currently has the slowest of the data networks,
>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1772832,00.asp
>>

>
> Now I see why a certain individual always declares that Cingular is a
> much better choice. Cingular only has 3 times the complaints, almost
> double the churn and gets fewer new customers. Or wait could it be the
> fact that they have the slowest data network is what really makes them
> much more attractive than VZW?



All that doesn't matter since they have really neat looking phones... ;-)


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Old 04-28-2005, 05:44 PM   #6
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Ferrari's look neat too but without any gas, they won't go anywhere.

> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat looking phones... ;-)
>



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Old 04-28-2005, 09:46 PM   #7
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J wrote:
> Ferrari's look neat too but without any gas, they won't go anywhere.
>
>> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat looking
>> phones... ;-)


....and a Ferrari owner isn't going anywhere without a babe in the
passenger seat.


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Old 04-29-2005, 07:27 AM   #8
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IMHO IIRC wrote:

>
>
> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat looking phones... ;-)
>
>

Yes, how could I missed the most important part that it is more
important to have cool features than the ability to reliably make calls...
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:37 AM   #9
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Quaoar wrote:
> J wrote:
>> Ferrari's look neat too but without any gas, they won't
>> go anywhere.
>>
>>> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat
>>> looking phones... ;-)

>
> ...and a Ferrari owner isn't going anywhere without a
> babe in the passenger seat.


and to get the babe in the passenger seat you... need
a really neat looking phone! there you have it.

And for proof: most VZW customers don't drive Ferraris

-Quick


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Old 04-29-2005, 10:41 AM   #10
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George wrote:
> IMHO IIRC wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat
>> looking phones... ;-)
>>
>>

> Yes, how could I missed the most important part that it
> is more important to have cool features than the ability to
> reliably make calls...


There may be some truth to that. Many of those that
have to have the cool features do not really care about
the phone calls. Take Xman for example...

-Quick


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Old 04-29-2005, 10:35 PM   #11
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Quick wrote:
> Quaoar wrote:
>> J wrote:
>>> Ferrari's look neat too but without any gas, they won't
>>> go anywhere.
>>>
>>>> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat
>>>> looking phones... ;-)

>>
>> ...and a Ferrari owner isn't going anywhere without a
>> babe in the passenger seat.

>
> and to get the babe in the passenger seat you... need
> a really neat looking phone! there you have it.
>
> And for proof: most VZW customers don't drive Ferraris
>
> -Quick


The suspicion that this was on-topic did lurk in the recesses of my
mind.

Q


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Old 05-01-2005, 09:00 PM   #12
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On 4/28/05 6:19 PM, in article 9aednek3Xfnn_OzfRVn-hg@adelphia.com, "George"
<george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Now I see why a certain individual always declares that Cingular is a
> much better choice. Cingular only has 3 times the complaints, almost
> double the churn and gets fewer new customers. Or wait could it be the
> fact that they have the slowest data network is what really makes them
> much more attractive than VZW?


Well, I left VZW because the network started not working. Missed calls,
poor conversations, and generally unreliable service on 2 different phones
in the same places it used to work. And it's a common complaint where I
work because we use Verizon for our cellphones. Their answer is always
*228. Well, BS - the network is overloaded, plain and simple.

Left for Cingular and couldn't be happier. Better rates, more reliable
network where I use my phone, and a cooler phone to boot. Couldn't be
happier and glad to be free from Verizon.

Cingular has been working great for me - we did have a few billing issues in
the beginning, but those were resolved quickly and without incident. Those
were back in Dec-Jan, which, given their phenomenal growth almost overnight
can be explained.

Things have been working great here and I'd bet if Cingular really wanted
more new customers they would lower the plan prices a little more and you'd
see them trouncing on Verizon again.

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Old 05-02-2005, 01:48 PM   #13
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The facts would indicate more people are finding Verizon to be the
superior company. Considering how many billions Cingular spent for
their extra customers, to lose them to churn, is a course to chapter
13. Cingular's one time growth was purchased not won in the market
place with superior service.

Cingular could pay me and I would still not go back, as there is zero
coverage in too many areas. Maybe Cingular cannot afford to pay roaming
charges unlike Verizon, which always provided coverage in 22 states
including nonzero interstate areas.7

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Old 05-16-2005, 09:49 PM   #14
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You guys are gay. I bother you so much, you can't even leave me out of
threads that have nothing to do with me. Come on, you really must have some
thing better to do...like BONE your wife? Or should I say boyfriend, since
half of you are probably gay. Get a life will ya...and post some thing
constructive or productive for once, will ya? It's cell phone service. It's
cell phone service. It's cell phone service. It's cell phone service. It's
cell phone service. That's it...it's just ****ing cell phone service.

"Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114793246.647794@sj-nntpcache-3...
> George wrote:
>> IMHO IIRC wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All that doesn't matter since they have really neat
>>> looking phones... ;-)
>>>
>>>

>> Yes, how could I missed the most important part that it
>> is more important to have cool features than the ability to
>> reliably make calls...

>
> There may be some truth to that. Many of those that
> have to have the cool features do not really care about
> the phone calls. Take Xman for example...
>
> -Quick
>
>



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Old 05-16-2005, 10:12 PM   #15
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"Xman" <xman@cdripper.net> wrote in message
news:118iqegarqrlk84@corp.supernews.com...
> It's cell phone service. It's
> cell phone service. It's cell phone service. It's cell phone service. It's
> cell phone service. That's it...it's just ****ing cell phone service.


It's more customer friendly than cable television. It's more customer
friendly than cable television. It's more customer friendly than cable
television. It's more customer friendly than cable television. That's
it...too bad you can't see it.


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