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Old 07-21-2005, 09:42 AM   #1
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Family Share Plan


My mom and dad and sister have been Verizon Customers for a few months now.
They are on the family share plan 1000 minutes for $ 70.00 and the bill
shows $ 70.00 for the plan and 2 charges for $ 9.99. Since my mom had 3
phones on the account should there only be 1 charge for $ 9.99. Because the
plan states ( Now) or stated ( When they signed up for the plan at that
time) 1000 minutes for 69.99 for the first 2 lines, then additional lines
for $ 9.99. So then the bill should be $ 70.00 for 2 lines and $9.99 for
the 3rd line, Correct ? That is the way I am reading the web site and that
family share plans were just like that when my mom signed up for 3 lines. I
just love verizons billing practices and all the crap they try to pull to
nickel and dime there customers all the time.




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Old 07-21-2005, 09:50 AM   #2
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Either Verizon singled out your parents and slipped in an extra $10
charge because they thought they could get away with it,
or you misread the bill.

Lena

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Old 07-21-2005, 09:55 AM   #3
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The bill shows a break down of the charges and phone calls for each line. I
seen a charge for $ 70.00 for the main line and a charge for $ 9.99 for the
second line and a $ 9.99 charge for the 3rd line. It is all listed on the
call and charges break down for each line. So I guess that Verizon is
slipping in an extra $10.


"Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Either Verizon singled out your parents and slipped in an extra $10
> charge because they thought they could get away with it,
> or you misread the bill.
>
> Lena
>



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Old 07-21-2005, 11:20 AM   #4
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The 1000 minute plan is $79.99 for the two lines & $9.99 for the other line.

"Viper" <user@user.net> wrote in message
news:CHODe.168780$x96.88785@attbi_s72...
> The bill shows a break down of the charges and phone calls for each line.
> I seen a charge for $ 70.00 for the main line and a charge for $ 9.99 for
> the second line and a $ 9.99 charge for the 3rd line. It is all listed on
> the call and charges break down for each line. So I guess that Verizon is
> slipping in an extra $10.
>
>
> "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1121957423.295485.162090@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Either Verizon singled out your parents and slipped in an extra $10
>> charge because they thought they could get away with it,
>> or you misread the bill.
>>
>> Lena
>>

>
>



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Old 07-21-2005, 12:15 PM   #5
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When I signed up for the $59.99 plan, for two lines, it was broken down
as $50 for the first line and $9.99 for the second line. Each
additional line was another $9.99.

Lena

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Old 07-21-2005, 12:54 PM   #6
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So it's beginning to look as if the only thing VZW slipped
in was yet another customer who didn't know what they
bought, didn't read what they bought, and can't add?
-
-Quick

Ben Skversky wrote:
> The 1000 minute plan is $79.99 for the two lines & $9.99
> for the other line.
>
> "Viper" <user@user.net> wrote in message
> news:CHODe.168780$x96.88785@attbi_s72...
>> The bill shows a break down of the charges and phone
>> calls for each line. I seen a charge for $ 70.00 for the
>> main line and a charge for $ 9.99 for the second line
>> and a $ 9.99 charge for the 3rd line. It is all listed
>> on the call and charges break down for each line. So I
>> guess that Verizon is slipping in an extra $10.
>>
>>
>> "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1121957423.295485.162090@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Either Verizon singled out your parents and slipped in
>>> an extra $10 charge because they thought they could get
>>> away with it,
>>> or you misread the bill.
>>>
>>> Lena



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Old 07-21-2005, 05:26 PM   #7
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It's amazing, isn't it? It's almost understandable why companies
orient their customer service reps to asuume that customers are
ignorant.

"Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:qjRDe.1639
$Fk4.659@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:

> So it's beginning to look as if the only thing VZW slipped
> in was yet another customer who didn't know what they
> bought, didn't read what they bought, and can't add?
> -
> -Quick
>
> Ben Skversky wrote:
>> The 1000 minute plan is $79.99 for the two lines & $9.99
>> for the other line.
>>
>> "Viper" <user@user.net> wrote in message
>> news:CHODe.168780$x96.88785@attbi_s72...
>>> The bill shows a break down of the charges and phone
>>> calls for each line. I seen a charge for $ 70.00 for the
>>> main line and a charge for $ 9.99 for the second line
>>> and a $ 9.99 charge for the 3rd line. It is all listed
>>> on the call and charges break down for each line. So I
>>> guess that Verizon is slipping in an extra $10.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lena" <lenagainster@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1121957423.295485.162090@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Either Verizon singled out your parents and slipped in
>>>> an extra $10 charge because they thought they could get
>>>> away with it,
>>>> or you misread the bill.
>>>>
>>>> Lena

>
>


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Old 07-21-2005, 11:03 PM   #8
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Did you notice the plans have changed? In my market the entry level plan is
something like 700 mins for $69.99. The plan you're on doesn't exist here
anymore -- I'm on it.

I noticed the strange billing myself but the plan adds up to what it's
supposed to.

"Viper" <user@user.net> wrote in message
newsvODe.170368$_o.13028@attbi_s71...
> My mom and dad and sister have been Verizon Customers for a few months

now.
> They are on the family share plan 1000 minutes for $ 70.00 and the bill
> shows $ 70.00 for the plan and 2 charges for $ 9.99. Since my mom had 3
> phones on the account should there only be 1 charge for $ 9.99. Because

the
> plan states ( Now) or stated ( When they signed up for the plan at that
> time) 1000 minutes for 69.99 for the first 2 lines, then additional lines
> for $ 9.99. So then the bill should be $ 70.00 for 2 lines and $9.99 for
> the 3rd line, Correct ? That is the way I am reading the web site and

that
> family share plans were just like that when my mom signed up for 3 lines.

I
> just love verizons billing practices and all the crap they try to pull to
> nickel and dime there customers all the time.
>
>



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Old 07-27-2005, 09:46 AM   #9
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First: The 500 minute plan is still available. You get what they advertise,
but they do make some "slick" moves. What you don't get is the 2nd line for
$9.99; I'll explain. 2 lines, 500 minutes, $59.99

Think the way it used to be:
$39.99 + $19.99 = 500 minutes for 2 lines. But you think to yourself, where
is the $9.99 share line?

Translates on your 1st bill to:
$49.99 + $9.99 (ignore the penny) = 500 minutes for 2 lines.
So on your bill, the 1st line is $49.99 ($10 increase) and the 2nd line is
$9.99 ( $10- decrease). The price is right, as they advertise the plan for
$59.99 or such. It is just a "hack" that they MISLEAD you into thinking the
share plan is $9.99, when the $9.99 price only applies to lines 3/4/5.

Have they lied to you? Not really. Have they misrepresented and perhaps
deceived you? That is up to you. Me, I told you how it is. There is no
2nd line $9.99 option, it is $19.99 and all about how they present it to
you. Want the $9.99 share, then add line 3/4/5. Misleading? It depends.
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"Scott" <scott@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Did you notice the plans have changed? In my market the entry level plan
> is
> something like 700 mins for $69.99. The plan you're on doesn't exist here
> anymore -- I'm on it.
>
> I noticed the strange billing myself but the plan adds up to what it's
> supposed to.
>
> "Viper" <user@user.net> wrote in message
> newsvODe.170368$_o.13028@attbi_s71...
>> My mom and dad and sister have been Verizon Customers for a few months

> now.
>> They are on the family share plan 1000 minutes for $ 70.00 and the bill
>> shows $ 70.00 for the plan and 2 charges for $ 9.99. Since my mom had 3
>> phones on the account should there only be 1 charge for $ 9.99. Because

> the
>> plan states ( Now) or stated ( When they signed up for the plan at that
>> time) 1000 minutes for 69.99 for the first 2 lines, then additional lines
>> for $ 9.99. So then the bill should be $ 70.00 for 2 lines and $9.99 for
>> the 3rd line, Correct ? That is the way I am reading the web site and

> that
>> family share plans were just like that when my mom signed up for 3 lines.

> I
>> just love verizons billing practices and all the crap they try to pull to
>> nickel and dime there customers all the time.
>>
>>

>
>
>



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Old 07-27-2005, 11:59 AM   #10
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dr.news wrote:
> First: The 500 minute plan is still available. You get
> what they advertise, but they do make some "slick" moves.
> What you don't get is the 2nd line for $9.99; I'll
> explain. 2 lines, 500 minutes, $59.99
>
> Think the way it used to be:
> $39.99 + $19.99 = 500 minutes for 2 lines. But you think
> to yourself, where is the $9.99 share line?
>
> Translates on your 1st bill to:
> $49.99 + $9.99 (ignore the penny) = 500 minutes for 2
> lines.
> So on your bill, the 1st line is $49.99 ($10 increase)
> and the 2nd line is $9.99 ( $10- decrease). The price is
> right, as they advertise the plan for $59.99 or such. It
> is just a "hack" that they MISLEAD you into thinking the
> share plan is $9.99, when the $9.99 price only applies to
> lines 3/4/5.
>
> Have they lied to you? Not really. Have they
> misrepresented and perhaps deceived you? That is up to
> you. Me, I told you how it is. There is no 2nd line
> $9.99 option, it is $19.99 and all about how they present
> it to you. Want the $9.99 share, then add line 3/4/5.
> Misleading? It depends. dr


I don't know about you but what matters to me is
"This is what I want. How much does it cost?".

And you're pointing out the itimizing on the bill. They
do not advertise a second line at all. A family share
requires at least 2 lines. Here is the Family Share
banner straight off the web site.

Sign up on a Family SharePlan® starting at
$69.99 monthly access for 2 lines and get
additional lines for just $9.99 monthly access
per line*.

I want a car. The dealer says it's going to cost
$35K out the door. I really can't see getting hung
up on whether they billed me $30K for the wheels
and $5K for the rest of it.

What does your Attorney General think about it?
Do you think it's actionable?

-Quick


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Old 07-27-2005, 12:00 PM   #11
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dr.news wrote:

>There is no
> 2nd line $9.99 option, it is $19.99 and all about how they present it to
> you.


When I signed my CONTRACTS at the time I signed up for the $59.99
Family Share Plan with TWO additional lines, the CONTRACTS clearly
stated that the first line was $50.00 (exactly fifty dollars), and the
second line was $9.99, as was the third and fourth line. I
specifically brought that to the attention of the sales rep, because I
thought it was a mistake, and he explained that that is the way they
break down the basic price on the four separate contracts.

It may have previously been $39.99, $19.99 at one time, but now the
second and subsequent lines are $9.99. And that accounts for the
missing penny.

Lena

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