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Old 07-18-2006, 09:40 PM   #1
Ange1o DePa1ma
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Motorola e815


I just got my new Moto E815 and it's a great camera phone. Unfortunately I
was used to the way my LG 3200 input contacts and especially the way it
handled voice dialing. Except for the limited number of voice dial entries
it permitted, I think the 3200 was far superior to the Motorola phone with
respect to that feature. On the 3200 you associated a voice prompt ("mom")
directly to a number, so there was very little chance for the phone to screw
up. On the Moto, the voice prompt is not attached to the number per se.
Every time you voice dial the phone has to re-learn the connection between
"mom" and 201-xxx-xxxx. You get a cheesy computer voice asking, "Did you say
m*# (where the * is any vowel, and the # is any consonant). In my experience
it gets it wrong most of the time. When that happens it presents you with a
menu of three numbers, which is kind of dangerous if you're driving. What
good is voice dialing if you have to pick a number from a menu anyway?

It's funny how every Verizon phone I've owned was better than the previous
model in 2/3 of its features, but worse in 1/3 of the features. There
doesn't seem to be any trend towards perfection here.




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Old 07-19-2006, 07:29 AM   #2
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"Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
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> When that happens it presents you with a menu of three numbers,
> which is kind of dangerous if you're driving.


Hence the expression, "Hang up and drive!"

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Old 07-19-2006, 10:58 AM   #3
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"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> news:qp6cncl0nvBfNCDZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> When that happens it presents you with a menu of three numbers,
>> which is kind of dangerous if you're driving.

>
> Hence the expression, "Hang up and drive!"




Then what is voice dialing for?


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Old 07-19-2006, 11:28 AM   #4
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Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
>
> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9805421E53574xs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> > "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:qp6cncl0nvBfNCDZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> >
> >> When that happens it presents you with a menu of three numbers,
> >> which is kind of dangerous if you're driving.

> >
> > Hence the expression, "Hang up and drive!"

>
>
>
> Then what is voice dialing for?


So you don't have to remember phone numbers, just names.

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Old 07-19-2006, 01:18 PM   #5
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Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9805421E53574xs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> > "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:qp6cncl0nvBfNCDZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> >
> >> When that happens it presents you with a menu of three numbers,
> >> which is kind of dangerous if you're driving.

> >
> > Hence the expression, "Hang up and drive!"

>
>
>
> Then what is voice dialing for?


It might just be you. My E815 catches my intention on the first try
probably 80% or more of the time. I'm not super-consistent with
inflection or volume, either, so that's a pretty good response, as far
as I'm concerned. With my old Nokia, you had to repeat the voice tag
exactly the way you said it before or else you'd spoof it.

Incidentally, I've always thought that the Moto's voice synthesis
sounds like my aunt talking on a bad connection (or with a mouth full
of marbles).

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Old 07-19-2006, 02:02 PM   #6
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Jeb Hoge wrote:
> It might just be you. My E815 catches my intention on the first try
> probably 80% or more of the time. I'm not super-consistent with
> inflection or volume, either, so that's a pretty good response, as far
> as I'm concerned.


Ditto. For the other 20%, and it seems like it's the same names over and
over that botch, I've found that trying to pronounce the name the way the
phone itself pronounces it (e.g. when you go into Contacts and highlight
the name) works really well.

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Old 07-19-2006, 02:26 PM   #7
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Jeb Hoge wrote:
> sounds like my aunt talking on a bad connection (or with a mouth full
> of marbles).


Just out of curiosity, why didn't your aunt have a marble bag and keep em in
there? Was it some sort of cleaning thing that she kept in her mouth? Like
the goof ball washers you see at the golf course?


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Old 07-20-2006, 08:48 AM   #8
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I have the Moto 815 and use the voice dialing feature. It's really
easy to use. When you have more than one entry for a person in your
directory all you need to say is the name of the person and "home,"
"mobile," or "work." It's not necessary to repeat the entire number.
For example, if your mom has a home phone and mobile phone entries and
you want to call her on her mobile phone, just say, "Call Mom mobile."
Sometimes the voice will ask, "Did you say...." in which case you
should respond, "Yes," and the call will go through.

Ed

Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
> I just got my new Moto E815 and it's a great camera phone. Unfortunately I
> was used to the way my LG 3200 input contacts and especially the way it
> handled voice dialing. Except for the limited number of voice dial entries
> it permitted, I think the 3200 was far superior to the Motorola phone with
> respect to that feature. On the 3200 you associated a voice prompt ("mom")
> directly to a number, so there was very little chance for the phone to screw
> up. On the Moto, the voice prompt is not attached to the number per se.
> Every time you voice dial the phone has to re-learn the connection between
> "mom" and 201-xxx-xxxx. You get a cheesy computer voice asking, "Did you say
> m*# (where the * is any vowel, and the # is any consonant). In my experience
> it gets it wrong most of the time. When that happens it presents you with a
> menu of three numbers, which is kind of dangerous if you're driving. What
> good is voice dialing if you have to pick a number from a menu anyway?
>
> It's funny how every Verizon phone I've owned was better than the previous
> model in 2/3 of its features, but worse in 1/3 of the features. There
> doesn't seem to be any trend towards perfection here.


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Old 07-20-2006, 03:47 PM   #9
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Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
> I just got my new Moto E815 and it's a great camera phone. Unfortunately I
> was used to the way my LG 3200 input contacts and especially the way it
> handled voice dialing. Except for the limited number of voice dial entries
> it permitted, I think the 3200 was far superior to the Motorola phone with
> respect to that feature.


I'd have to disagree with you. The E815's voice dial capability is far
superior because it is voice neutral, and also contact-neutral. You can
even say a number not entered in your contacts, and the phone will dial
it. Definitely a step up, if you ask me.


> On the 3200 you associated a voice prompt ("mom")
> directly to a number, so there was very little chance for the phone to screw
> up. On the Moto, the voice prompt is not attached to the number per se.
> Every time you voice dial the phone has to re-learn the connection between
> "mom" and 201-xxx-xxxx. You get a cheesy computer voice asking, "Did you say
> m*# (where the * is any vowel, and the # is any consonant).


I have never found any voice dial, on any phone, to work well with a
monosyllabic word as the contact tag, especially a word as featureless
as "mom." "Mother" probably would've worked fine.




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Old 07-21-2006, 01:00 PM   #10
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:47:23 -0400, Isaiah Beard
<sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> wrote:

>Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
>> I just got my new Moto E815 and it's a great camera phone. Unfortunately I
>> was used to the way my LG 3200 input contacts and especially the way it
>> handled voice dialing. Except for the limited number of voice dial entries
>> it permitted, I think the 3200 was far superior to the Motorola phone with
>> respect to that feature.

>
>I'd have to disagree with you. The E815's voice dial capability is far
>superior because it is voice neutral, and also contact-neutral. You can
>even say a number not entered in your contacts, and the phone will dial
>it. Definitely a step up, if you ask me.
>
>
>> On the 3200 you associated a voice prompt ("mom")
>> directly to a number, so there was very little chance for the phone to screw
>> up. On the Moto, the voice prompt is not attached to the number per se.
>> Every time you voice dial the phone has to re-learn the connection between
>> "mom" and 201-xxx-xxxx. You get a cheesy computer voice asking, "Did you say
>> m*# (where the * is any vowel, and the # is any consonant).

>
>I have never found any voice dial, on any phone, to work well with a
>monosyllabic word as the contact tag, especially a word as featureless
>as "mom." "Mother" probably would've worked fine.


I agree. The 815 is excellent with regard to voice dial. I found that
I had to try to speak more slowly and clearly so not to have it ask me
a question. This is not a bad thing.

It is also an improvement over my other favorite V710 because it
eliminates a step in the process. On the 710 after it said "say a
command" you had to say "name dial" and then say the name.
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:27 AM   #11
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"NJ Analyst" <ednj2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153406931.251481.256500@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>I have the Moto 815 and use the voice dialing feature. It's really
> easy to use. When you have more than one entry for a person in your
> directory all you need to say is the name of the person and "home,"
> "mobile," or "work." It's not necessary to repeat the entire number.
> For example, if your mom has a home phone and mobile phone entries and
> you want to call her on her mobile phone, just say, "Call Mom mobile."
> Sometimes the voice will ask, "Did you say...." in which case you
> should respond, "Yes," and the call will go through.
>
> Ed
>
> Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
>> I just got my new Moto E815 and it's a great camera phone. Unfortunately
>> I
>> was used to the way my LG 3200 input contacts and especially the way it
>> handled voice dialing. Except for the limited number of voice dial
>> entries
>> it permitted, I think the 3200 was far superior to the Motorola phone
>> with
>> respect to that feature. On the 3200 you associated a voice prompt
>> ("mom")
>> directly to a number, so there was very little chance for the phone to
>> screw
>> up. On the Moto, the voice prompt is not attached to the number per se.
>> Every time you voice dial the phone has to re-learn the connection
>> between
>> "mom" and 201-xxx-xxxx. You get a cheesy computer voice asking, "Did you
>> say
>> m*# (where the * is any vowel, and the # is any consonant). In my
>> experience
>> it gets it wrong most of the time. When that happens it presents you with
>> a
>> menu of three numbers, which is kind of dangerous if you're driving. What
>> good is voice dialing if you have to pick a number from a menu anyway?
>>
>> It's funny how every Verizon phone I've owned was better than the
>> previous
>> model in 2/3 of its features, but worse in 1/3 of the features. There
>> doesn't seem to be any trend towards perfection here.


When I say "Call Dad" it asks "Call Ver-ee-zone?" The voice synthesis is
*horrrrrrrible*.


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Old 07-23-2006, 04:24 PM   #12
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:27:00 -0400, "Ange1o DePa1ma"
<angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"NJ Analyst" <ednj2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1153406931.251481.256500@h48g2000cwc.googleg roups.com...
>>I have the Moto 815 and use the voice dialing feature. It's really
>> easy to use. When you have more than one entry for a person in your
>> directory all you need to say is the name of the person and "home,"
>> "mobile," or "work." It's not necessary to repeat the entire number.
>> For example, if your mom has a home phone and mobile phone entries and
>> you want to call her on her mobile phone, just say, "Call Mom mobile."
>> Sometimes the voice will ask, "Did you say...." in which case you
>> should respond, "Yes," and the call will go through.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
>>> I just got my new Moto E815 and it's a great camera phone. Unfortunately
>>> I
>>> was used to the way my LG 3200 input contacts and especially the way it
>>> handled voice dialing. Except for the limited number of voice dial
>>> entries
>>> it permitted, I think the 3200 was far superior to the Motorola phone
>>> with
>>> respect to that feature. On the 3200 you associated a voice prompt
>>> ("mom")
>>> directly to a number, so there was very little chance for the phone to
>>> screw
>>> up. On the Moto, the voice prompt is not attached to the number per se.
>>> Every time you voice dial the phone has to re-learn the connection
>>> between
>>> "mom" and 201-xxx-xxxx. You get a cheesy computer voice asking, "Did you
>>> say
>>> m*# (where the * is any vowel, and the # is any consonant). In my
>>> experience
>>> it gets it wrong most of the time. When that happens it presents you with
>>> a
>>> menu of three numbers, which is kind of dangerous if you're driving. What
>>> good is voice dialing if you have to pick a number from a menu anyway?
>>>
>>> It's funny how every Verizon phone I've owned was better than the
>>> previous
>>> model in 2/3 of its features, but worse in 1/3 of the features. There
>>> doesn't seem to be any trend towards perfection here.

>
>When I say "Call Dad" it asks "Call Ver-ee-zone?" The voice synthesis is
>*horrrrrrrible*.
>



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