Re: Charleston VZW gets EVDO!

Larry wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:1oSdnabu9p8eXwrYnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@adelphia.com :
>
>> Just a FYI, your "results" are about 1/4 of the usual speeds the dozen
>> people I know with an aircard see. And if you are in a REV A area (the
>> system that borders here was changed last week) you will get 3,000kb (I
>> saw it) in a high signal strength area.
>>
>>
>
> I've been properly slammed for reporting exactly what I saw on the screen
> from reputable, but not company sponsored or cached-in-XP, sources in
> realtime. Maybe they don't have the bugs worked out, yet. It balked
> during the testing, I noted. The same testing doesn't balk at my house
> on cable, so the internet and routing can't be blamed.
>
> Of course, you always get slammed reporting what you see.....
>
> I wonder why they wouldn't installed the Rev A in the first place on a
> virgin system like ours? Makes no sense unless they were using old
> equipment removed from systems that got upgraded to install ours. They
> wouldn't do that, would they??
>
>
>

No, that isn't the reason.

In article <F72dnams4pYBlwXYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@adelphia.com>, George wrote:

> Sounds like I need to get on the phone with Comcast and complain that
> according to Larry my 384/4000 provisioned speed (which works just fine
> for anything I do) isn't broadband.

Well, 128K ISDN is broadband by the technical definition of the word.
The definition of broadband also relates to how the service is
delivered (e.g., over a 56K analog modem isn't broadband).



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"Ness net" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in
news:rtednSZdc484mgXYnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@giganews.com :

> Like I said - all newer cards/ versions of Access Manager do NOT use
> Venturi. It is history.
>
>

Wonder if the new cards have the compression running in them.....??

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Larry, I hate to always be the one shooting holes in your posts...
But, when they are wrong and misleading - it is necessary...

America is very PC nowadays and I certainly wouldn't have a computer
sitting out for the public to play with unrestricted. Just imagine how quickly
someone would sue if a porn web page was left up on the kiosk laptop for
some old lady to walk up and view. It is very necessary liability wise to restrict
where a kiosk laptop can go. I sure as hell would.

Also, I will state (as I have in the past) I think VZW's policy for data use
is heavy handed. But, contrary to your below statement - they now make
the restrictions "PLAINLY VISIBLE and they DO state 5G per month.

This is now "PLAINLY" spelled out. The below is directly from their T & Cs
(and IS on their "take home") I hold one in my hand from my 595 shipment.

"Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to
be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the
right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice."

Sure seems very "PLAINLY VISIBLE " to me... (and very easily found on
their web page - took me all of 10 seconds or less)

And - the rest of your screed is simply BS as well. The bottom line is this.
Don't ABUSE the connection and everything is fine. Do with it what you will.

Abuse is defined as over 5GB. Stay under and all is well. Very simple.
Nothing is "hobbled" or of "limited use". It streams, downloads, uploads,
and accesses Usenet just fine and dandy....

And why do you always keep insisting the entire web is "spammers webpages".
We've had the gross generalizations being very stupid discussion before.




"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns98AA8635AC35Bnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...

>
> There IS a concerted effort to dupe the public. Why else wouldn't they
> let you look at any webpages you like, not just specifically cacheable
> ones from a very small list? Why is there no PLAINLY VISIBLE and take-
> home-able AUP statement telling them this is NOT unlimited internet
> service, as they infer, but a really limited use hobbled up system you
> cannot stream, you cannot download, you cannot upload, you cannot usenet
> from, you cannot do anything but spammers webpages, simplest of email and
> "company intranet" (in order to give some use of it to business buyers).
>
> It's NOT unlimited internet service for $60. It's webpages and
> email....useless. Yes, the duping continues, unabated.
>
>
> I got slammed by the loyal subjects of the corporation telling me of
> their 1.5Mbps speeds. Trying to find the damned AUP buried in VZW's
> webpages to backup the above, I ran into their OWN "broadband"
> explanation which says, and I quote:
>

Steven J. Sobol wrote:
> In article <F72dnams4pYBlwXYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@adelphia.com>, George wrote:
>
>> Sounds like I need to get on the phone with Comcast and complain that
>> according to Larry my 384/4000 provisioned speed (which works just fine
>> for anything I do) isn't broadband.
>
> Well, 128K ISDN is broadband by the technical definition of the word.
> The definition of broadband also relates to how the service is
> delivered (e.g., over a 56K analog modem isn't broadband).
>
>
>

Agree, 2 bonded B channels is the usual "base" speed definition of
broadband.

The OP just seems to always be able to find a black cloud on the
sunniest of days.

My BIL has a successful business with a dozen computers in the office
all sharing a 384kb SDSL line. And a lot of people who don't do p2p are
quite happy with the ability to wirelessly connect wherever they happen
to be without worrying that it isn't a 6 Mb connection.

In article <N5adnQgG8KoE0wTYnZ2dnUVZ_oipnZ2d@adelphia.com>, George wrote:

> My BIL has a successful business with a dozen computers in the office
> all sharing a 384kb SDSL line. And a lot of people who don't do p2p are
> quite happy with the ability to wirelessly connect wherever they happen
> to be without worrying that it isn't a 6 Mb connection.

Luddites! <gdr>

*SJS, currently hobbling along on a 3Mbps cable conneection

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Steven J. Sobol wrote:
> In article <N5adnQgG8KoE0wTYnZ2dnUVZ_oipnZ2d@adelphia.com>, George wrote:
>
>> My BIL has a successful business with a dozen computers in the office
>> all sharing a 384kb SDSL line. And a lot of people who don't do p2p are
>> quite happy with the ability to wirelessly connect wherever they happen
>> to be without worrying that it isn't a 6 Mb connection.
>
> Luddites! <gdr>
>
> *SJS, currently hobbling along on a 3Mbps cable conneection
>

There is no other broadband in his location. He has had the SDSL line
for about 6 years. The interesting part is absolutely no one in the
office runs around complaining "this is slow". From my observation
unless you are doing P2P stuff or running speed tests every 5 minutes
most people never notice a difference in speeds.

Ness net wrote:
> And - the rest of your screed is simply BS as well. The bottom line is this.
> Don't ABUSE the connection and everything is fine. Do with it what you will.

Call me cynical, but with a 5GB/month limit, I think the letters "AB"
don't belong in that sentence.

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