Re: The iPhone's Top Pros and Cons

Peter Pan wrote:
> It's not a CDMA phone, so why is it here (in this newsgroup)

Look up. See those three newsgroups (formerly five)?
If you don't want it in "that" newsgroup,
why did you leave that one on the list
when you quoted it?


--
Wes Groleau
Genealogical Lookups:
http://groleau.freeshell.org/ref/lookups.shtml

>>>>> "none" == none <a@b.com> writes:
none> You are still trying to use Windows, so that's probably part
none> of the problem.

Vista Ultimate x64 & iTunes don't seem to do well (in Firefox)....in
XP Pro I can see it OK.
--
"If brute force doesn't solve your problems, then you aren't using
enough."

At 24 Jun 2007 00:08:30 +0000 Larry wrote:

> We'll see how "Ignores Unintended Touches" plays out after the first
bill
> comes in...(c;


I'll give Apple enough credit to have thought of a way to prevent that.

> I've never seen any device that, touching the glasses in my pocket,
> "ignores unintended touches", like dialing Bangledesh Parliament at
> $2.50/minute.

I'll toss this idea out there just as an example- what if the touchscreen
is capacitance driven, and needs skin (or it's equivalent) to operate,
like an old touchlamp?

There- I'm not an engineer and I solved the problem of it dialing
Bangladesh in 15-seconds. Surely Apple's engineers are far smarter than I,
and have more resources.

> It'll be interesting to watch.... Sorry I put the hawkers panties in a
> wad....well, NOT.

Frankly this whole thread extolling the virtues and condemning the sins
of a device that not one of us has touched, used, or even seen outside of
a commercial or promotional video is ridiculous for anything other than
entertainment value anyway.



--
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On Jun 23, 5:31 pm, Larry <n...@home.com> wrote:
> zeez <Ultim...@excite.com> wrote in news:1182595011.544149.207130
> @a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > <rant mode on> The one thing that really bothers me about cell phones
> > is that they are being used
> > to get users used to the idea that the phone (i'll call it a computer
> > for now on scince that's what modern
> > cellphones basicly are) isn't really theirs, and that companies and
> > only companies have the right to
> > decide what you are allowed to run on the computer you bought, down to
> > the very programs on it in some
> > cases. Anything else is forbidden, and anybody who tries to use the
> > computer for anything other that
> > what the companies explicity says must be an evil hacker or an outlaw.
> > This is like the Trusted Computing
> > bull****, but even more draconian. <rant mode off>
>
> One fine post. Very well said.
>
> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from some
> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
> idea....centralized control.
>

Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.

The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
control over and know exactly
what is running.

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <dmso73hr1ai3btt7toorbhe8c55uod16a9@4ax.com>,
> Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Jun 2007 01:04:59 -0000, avery23455@hotmail.com (Avery) wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech...oscons_print.h
>>> tm
>>>
>>> The iPhone's Top Pros and Cons
>> Why is this **** here?
>
> Where is "here"?


Well, where *isn't*?


--
Andy.

On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article pUxfi.2368$c_4.1483@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
"Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-7CFEDE.08524924062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>> In article <1182675659.405839.301440@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from some
>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>
>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>> control over and know exactly
>>> what is running.
>>
>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out of
>> it.
>
> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have tin
> foil hats.
>
>
If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch line.
Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous, maliciously
malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.

On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article l6zfi.2407$c_4.1166@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
"Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>> pUxfi.2368$c_4.1483@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>> news:elmop-7CFEDE.08524924062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>>>> In article <1182675659.405839.301440@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
>>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from some
>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>> what is running.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out of
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have
>>> tin
>>> foil hats.
>>>
>>>
>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch line.
>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>> maliciously
>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>
> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send that
> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>
>
That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody can
be as stupid as you in one lifetime

In article <elmop-60983E.21333623062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <Xns9958CF8E48C84noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Tell you what....let's turn 10 over to the posters on this thread that
> > DON'T own a MAC
>
> folks, one more time:
>
> it's not MAC. It's Mac. Short for Macintosh computer.
>
> Yeah, you all think everything is an abbreviation. Well, get over it.
> Mac is simply a nickname for Macintosh.


And you apparently don't know the difference know the difference between
an abbreviation and an acronym.

In the tech world;

Mac is an abbreviation for Macintosh
MAC is an acronym for Media Access Control.



--Mike

"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C2A42FA2.2DA74%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>
>
>
> On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article l6zfi.2407$c_4.1166@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>>> pUxfi.2368$c_4.1483@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:elmop-7CFEDE.08524924062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>>>>> In article <1182675659.405839.301440@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
>>>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>>> what is running.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out
>>>>> of
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have
>>>> tin
>>>> foil hats.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch
>>> line.
>>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>>> maliciously
>>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>>
>> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send
>> that
>> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>>
>>
> That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
> scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
> syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
> saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody
> can
> be as stupid as you in one lifetime
>

I think he's saying you are a useless Apple shill on the verge of going on a
VT like shooting spree. He's suggesting your kill yourself before you turn
on others when you realize how empty and meaningless your life is.

"MuahMan" <muahman@aol.com> wrote in message
news:bMSdnW7e46FseOPbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2A42FA2.2DA74%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article
>> l6zfi.2407$c_4.1166@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>>>> pUxfi.2368$c_4.1483@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>>>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:elmop-7CFEDE.08524924062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>>>>>> In article <1182675659.405839.301440@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
>>>>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>>>> what is running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the
>>>>>> package--and
>>>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already
>>>>> have
>>>>> tin
>>>>> foil hats.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch
>>>> line.
>>>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>>>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>>>> maliciously
>>>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>>>
>>> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send
>>> that
>>> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>>>
>>>
>> That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
>> scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
>> syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
>> saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody
>> can
>> be as stupid as you in one lifetime
>>
>
> I think he's saying you are a useless Apple shill on the verge of going on
> a VT like shooting spree. He's suggesting your kill yourself before you
> turn on others when you realize how empty and meaningless your life is.

The Dickhead claims that he doesn't "understand" what I'm saying. He
understands perfectly. He's a "Class A" Asshole. How much plainer can I
make it. He should do us all a favor and off himself. Last week he said
he'd rather be blind than listen to me. He should get his wish.

In article <1182595011.544149.207130@a26g2000pre.googlegroups .com>,
zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:

> I want to have full directory access to the
> PDA (which this thing seems to
> to be, simaler to a Treo or a Blackberry), and if it's not built in,
> allow me to install a utility to do it, and don't
> try to hide ****, or play games with me, or otherwise attempt to
> thwart my attempts at accessing the files.
This is a common demand, and a very strange one.
The only files Mac OS actually hides are the ones that are of no use to
users; it means nothing that you can't get to them, because you won't
want them for anything.
Same with System files; the OS prevents access not because Apple
assumes they are the only ones who know anything, but because the
reliability of the system can hang on not allowing a user with a bare
clue to do something stupid.

So, I want to ask something:
If a device gives you access to all of the files YOU created or moved
to it, is that enough? It is certainly appropriate, but the demands
this is couched in usually are about stuff that he user shouldn't ever
want to see and shouldn't touch.


> and that companies and
> only companies have the right to
> decide what you are allowed to run on the computer you bought, down to
> the very programs on it in some
> cases. Anything else is forbidden, and anybody who tries to use the
> computer for anything other that
> what the companies explicity says must be an evil hacker or an outlaw.

Actually, you are leaving out a really really HUGE aspect: that the
things most of these companies are putting are the functions people
actually want and need.
It's fine that you have different demands of some devices -- I'm sure
you can come up with lots of ways to fiddle with them. But typical
users and buyers are not being cheated because a few guys want to
fiddle with how it works.
Most need what these devices do, and don't need to push and pull at
it's innards.

On Jun 24, 10:15 pm, Mitch <m...@hawaii.rr> wrote:
> In article <1182595011.544149.207...@a26g2000pre.googlegroups .com>,
>
> zeez <Ultim...@excite.com> wrote:
> > I want to have full directory access to the
> > PDA (which this thing seems to
> > to be, simaler to a Treo or a Blackberry), and if it's not built in,
> > allow me to install a utility to do it, and don't
> > try to hide ****, or play games with me, or otherwise attempt to
> > thwart my attempts at accessing the files.
>
> This is a common demand, and a very strange one.
> The only files Mac OS actually hides are the ones that are of no use to
> users; it means nothing that you can't get to them, because you won't
> want them for anything.
> Same with System files; the OS prevents access not because Apple
> assumes they are the only ones who know anything, but because the

There is a reason why assume is known as ASS-U-ME. Apple dosen't
always know best, and
no company should ever think they know best.

> reliability of the system can hang on not allowing a user with a bare
> clue to do something stupid.

That seems to be the problem with the industry these days. Because a
newbie *might* screw up
the system, they have to lock it it down so *nobody* can access the
innards. This is akin to selling
cars with the hood bolted shut and only the dealer has the ability to
open it.

>
> So, I want to ask something:
> If a device gives you access to all of the files YOU created or moved
> to it, is that enough? It is certainly appropriate, but the demands

Many products dosen't even allow the user direct access to the files
of own content they put on there
(whether it's a download song or something they created).

> this is couched in usually are about stuff that he user shouldn't ever
> want to see and shouldn't touch.
>
> > and that companies and
> > only companies have the right to
> > decide what you are allowed to run on the computer you bought, down to
> > the very programs on it in some
> > cases. Anything else is forbidden, and anybody who tries to use the
> > computer for anything other that
> > what the companies explicity says must be an evil hacker or an outlaw.
>
> Actually, you are leaving out a really really HUGE aspect: that the
> things most of these companies are putting are the functions people
> actually want and need.

There is still no way they can anticipate all needs. If a user needs
a function and it isn't there,
instead of being able to download a utility from a third party
(freeware or shareware), he or she gets
to sit there hoping and praying that the company might come around to
doing it. Oh yeah, they could
write a letter to the company suggesting a feature, but it it's
something that most people won't think of,
there is a snowballs chance in hell it will ever be implimented (the
bigger the company, the worse
your chances are).

> It's fine that you have different demands of some devices -- I'm sure
> you can come up with lots of ways to fiddle with them. But typical
> users and buyers are not being cheated because a few guys want to
> fiddle with how it works.
> Most need what these devices do, and don't need to push and pull at
> it's innards.

Not everyone is a grandma or a teenybopper, and unfortunately,
companies ASS-U-ME that just about
everyone who uses their products is one of the above, and people who
use their devices to actualy
do stuff out of the MTV-Hollywood-Pop-culture norm get left out in the
cold. Yes, it really is getting
that bad. Most of the phones I see at an electronics store these days
are full of crapware that focus
on getting people to download the latest pop "tune" or annoying ring
tone, or video clips of the slop
that's on TV.

On 6/24/07 6:11 PM, in article ESCfi.171$vg1.124@bigfe9.bellsouth.net, "Dr
zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> "MuahMan" <muahman@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:bMSdnW7e46FseOPbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:C2A42FA2.2DA74%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article
>>> l6zfi.2407$c_4.1166@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>>>>> pUxfi.2368$c_4.1483@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>>>>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:elmop-7CFEDE.08524924062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>>>>>>> In article <1182675659.405839.301440@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
>>>>>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>>>>> what is running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the
>>>>>>> package--and
>>>>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> tin
>>>>>> foil hats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch
>>>>> line.
>>>>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>>>>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>>>>> maliciously
>>>>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>>>>
>>>> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send
>>>> that
>>>> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
>>> scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
>>> syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
>>> saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody
>>> can
>>> be as stupid as you in one lifetime
>>>
>>
>> I think he's saying you are a useless Apple shill on the verge of going on
>> a VT like shooting spree. He's suggesting your kill yourself before you
>> turn on others when you realize how empty and meaningless your life is.
>
> The Dickhead claims that he doesn't "understand" what I'm saying. He
> understands perfectly. He's a "Class A" Asshole. How much plainer can I
> make it. He should do us all a favor and off himself. Last week he said
> he'd rather be blind than listen to me. He should get his wish.
>
>
You pole-smoking, father-molesting, armpit-sniffing, tit-sucking,
hemorrhoid-nibbling, cock-headed wankstain! What possessed you to think
that you were capable of being entertaining or interesting to read? Maybe
you wouldn't be such a Jackass if you'd had enough oxygen at birth. But
there is hope for you and your butt-buddy - hydrocephalus can be controlled:
I have a cordless Dewalt for your problem. We know that you would give your
life for us. Promise, please!

On 6/24/07 4:45 PM, in article bMSdnW7e46FseOPbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com,
"MuahMan" <muahman@aol.com> wrote:

>
> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2A42FA2.2DA74%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article l6zfi.2407$c_4.1166@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>>>> pUxfi.2368$c_4.1483@bignews2.bellsouth.net,
>>>> "Dr zara" <spook@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:elmop-7CFEDE.08524924062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
>>>>>> In article <1182675659.405839.301440@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
>>>>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>>>> what is running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>>>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have
>>>>> tin
>>>>> foil hats.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch
>>>> line.
>>>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>>>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>>>> maliciously
>>>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>>>
>>> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send
>>> that
>>> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>>>
>>>
>> That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
>> scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
>> syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
>> saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody
>> can
>> be as stupid as you in one lifetime
>>
>
> I think he's saying you are a useless Apple shill on the verge of going on a
> VT like shooting spree.
WTF is your facination with VT? Are you also "mistreated" like our late
little booger-eating Seung-Hui? Do us a favor and only get ONE .357 round,
open wide and suck on the barrel, not doc zero's 'spore'.

In article <5e66jgF37inr1U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> >>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote
> >>>> avery23455@hotmail.com (Avery) wrote
>
> >>>>> which is all the more surprising since it's a touch-screen
>
> >>>> I can't WAIT to see that first cellphone bill after the touch
> >>>> screen has been in a shirt pocket touching the pens and
> >>>> glasses or the stuff it touched on a holster/pouch...(c;
>
> >>>> No WONDER cellphone companies want us to have it....REVENUES!
>
> >>> It's got a lock. I don't understand the problem.
>
> >> The problem is remembering to lock it.
>
> > A lot easier than the logistical nightmare for functionality
> > for performing tasks on any of the smartphones and
> > PDAs out there (and I have a Treo).
>
> You wanna try a Nokia.
>
> > I'll take this any day.
>
> I wont on the lack of support for third party apps alone.

Yes, just what we need, more poorly written 3rd party apps that crash
the unit.

I have a few of these on my Treo. Opera Mini, for example.

I'm happy Apple is keeping a handle on this.



>
> I like the idea of a touch screen, I love my TomTom.

Like the Garmin I use the car. Love it.

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