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- 11-15-2007, 01:38 PM #1adkcamperGuest
I have spent a frustrating day trying to figure a way around Verizon's
apparent greediness. I currently use a 2 year old Motorola Razr with
Mobile Web 2.0. I bought a synchronization product from Motorola that
lets me update my phone numbers from the computer. But what I really
want is to stop carrying around my old Palm Tungsten E and get a phone
that will synch with my Outlook contacts, calendar and tasks, and
allow me to make updates. I don't really care about the mail as I'm
retired and can log in and look at mail online when I want to. So
what I'd like to do is keep the $5 a month Mobile Web for my web
access needs - it has worked fine for me. However if I buy a
smartphone with Windows Mobile on it, Verizon tells me the only way to
get web access is to buy a data plan - significantly more expensive
than the $5 a month I am paying now.
Wondering if anyone else has tackled this problem and come up with
solutions.
Thanks.
Carolyn
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- 11-15-2007, 02:21 PM #2tscottmeGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
This question is asked often and as I understand it there is no workaround
for smartphones. If you want to use it as a smartphone you have to pay for
a data plan. Is there not a web-based solution, like google or yahoo, to
keeping a calandar etc. I pay $1 per month for web 2.0 access on my phone.
Web minutes count against my minutes except when the airtime is free.
Have you looked at howardforums for an answer?
--
Scott
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum
soli proscript catapultas habebunt.
"adkcamper" <belknaps@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e114564d-7e9e-4dc9-91c2-c0e23058a850@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>I have spent a frustrating day trying to figure a way around Verizon's
> apparent greediness. I currently use a 2 year old Motorola Razr with
> Mobile Web 2.0. I bought a synchronization product from Motorola that
> lets me update my phone numbers from the computer. But what I really
> want is to stop carrying around my old Palm Tungsten E and get a phone
> that will synch with my Outlook contacts, calendar and tasks, and
> allow me to make updates. I don't really care about the mail as I'm
> retired and can log in and look at mail online when I want to. So
> what I'd like to do is keep the $5 a month Mobile Web for my web
> access needs - it has worked fine for me. However if I buy a
> smartphone with Windows Mobile on it, Verizon tells me the only way to
> get web access is to buy a data plan - significantly more expensive
> than the $5 a month I am paying now.
>
> Wondering if anyone else has tackled this problem and come up with
> solutions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Carolyn
- 11-15-2007, 04:29 PM #3JonGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
tscottme wrote:
> This question is asked often and as I understand it there is no workaround
> for smartphones. If you want to use it as a smartphone you have to pay for
> a data plan. Is there not a web-based solution, like google or yahoo, to
> keeping a calandar etc. I pay $1 per month for web 2.0 access on my phone.
> Web minutes count against my minutes except when the airtime is free.
>
> Have you looked at howardforums for an answer?
>
I guess you didn't hear about verizon's new thing they have going.
Unless you signed up for a data plan ($60/month) or the vcast package
($15/month), you are charged $2/MB of data. So now on top of the
$1/month your paying for Web 2.0, you will also have to pay $2/MB of
data. (and yes, that is for any non-data/vcast plans)
- 11-15-2007, 05:51 PM #4Mark CrispinGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Jon wrote:
> Unless you signed up for a data plan ($60/month) or the vcast package
> ($15/month), you are charged $2/MB of data. So now on top of the $1/month
> your paying for Web 2.0, you will also have to pay $2/MB of data. (and yes,
> that is for any non-data/vcast plans)
That's only for new plans. People on legacy plans are grandfathered and
can still get data with MOU.
-- Mark --
http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
- 11-15-2007, 06:50 PM #5LarryGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
adkcamper <belknaps@yahoo.com> wrote in news:e114564d-7e9e-4dc9-
91c2-c0e23058a850@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> I have spent a frustrating day trying to figure a way around
Verizon's
> apparent greediness. I currently use a 2 year old Motorola
Razr with
> Mobile Web 2.0. I bought a synchronization product from
Motorola that
> lets me update my phone numbers from the computer. But what I
really
> want is to stop carrying around my old Palm Tungsten E and get
a phone
> that will synch with my Outlook contacts, calendar and tasks,
and
> allow me to make updates. I don't really care about the mail
as I'm
> retired and can log in and look at mail online when I want to.
So
> what I'd like to do is keep the $5 a month Mobile Web for my
web
> access needs - it has worked fine for me. However if I buy a
> smartphone with Windows Mobile on it, Verizon tells me the only
way to
> get web access is to buy a data plan - significantly more
expensive
> than the $5 a month I am paying now.
>
> Wondering if anyone else has tackled this problem and come up
with
> solutions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Carolyn
>
Carolyn, does Alltel have native coverage in your city? Where
are you?
You can buy Alltel 1X service, more than fast enough at 110Kbps,
to serve your needs for only $10/month for really unlimited
service, no funny business. Their phone plans are much cheaper
than VZW, too, probably easily offsetting the extra $5 for real
internet service.
Alltel, more interested in business than girls, also has many
good smartphones to upgrade to, COMPLETELY UNHOBBLED, at really
great subsidized prices for your 2-year-agreement. You can sync
them via the air or cable, whichever is more convenient for you
at the moment, without being forced by some stupid locking
software. Alltel won't install anything on your desktop
computer. You can even use your PDA as a phone modem if your
office broadband fails, or use a bluetooth connection for your
laptop at no extra charge.
It just works better.....
I had a problem when I switched phones to a new MotoROKR Z6M but
discovered a way to get my BT Nokia N800 to use it with a little
tinkering. Today, 2 weeks after I had called to tell them I'd
solved the problem, I get another followup call, just to see if I
was happy with Alltel's service. THEY called l'il ol' ME!
That's Alltel...They may not have the answer to your problem,
because my problem was with my Linux tablet, not their
phone....but they care enough to call back, something I really
appreciate any company doing, much less a SELLphone company.
You don't have to put up with Verizon's crap! They're not
omnipotent.
Larry
--
Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;
- 11-15-2007, 07:04 PM #6JonGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
Larry wrote:
> adkcamper <belknaps@yahoo.com> wrote in news:e114564d-7e9e-4dc9-
> 91c2-c0e23058a850@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I have spent a frustrating day trying to figure a way around
> Verizon's
>> apparent greediness. I currently use a 2 year old Motorola
> Razr with
>> Mobile Web 2.0. I bought a synchronization product from
> Motorola that
>> lets me update my phone numbers from the computer. But what I
> really
>> want is to stop carrying around my old Palm Tungsten E and get
> a phone
>> that will synch with my Outlook contacts, calendar and tasks,
> and
>> allow me to make updates. I don't really care about the mail
> as I'm
>> retired and can log in and look at mail online when I want to.
> So
>> what I'd like to do is keep the $5 a month Mobile Web for my
> web
>> access needs - it has worked fine for me. However if I buy a
>> smartphone with Windows Mobile on it, Verizon tells me the only
> way to
>> get web access is to buy a data plan - significantly more
> expensive
>> than the $5 a month I am paying now.
>>
>> Wondering if anyone else has tackled this problem and come up
> with
>> solutions.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>
> Carolyn, does Alltel have native coverage in your city? Where
> are you?
>
> You can buy Alltel 1X service, more than fast enough at 110Kbps,
> to serve your needs for only $10/month for really unlimited
> service, no funny business. Their phone plans are much cheaper
> than VZW, too, probably easily offsetting the extra $5 for real
> internet service.
>
> Alltel, more interested in business than girls, also has many
> good smartphones to upgrade to, COMPLETELY UNHOBBLED, at really
> great subsidized prices for your 2-year-agreement. You can sync
> them via the air or cable, whichever is more convenient for you
> at the moment, without being forced by some stupid locking
> software. Alltel won't install anything on your desktop
> computer. You can even use your PDA as a phone modem if your
> office broadband fails, or use a bluetooth connection for your
> laptop at no extra charge.
>
> It just works better.....
>
> I had a problem when I switched phones to a new MotoROKR Z6M but
> discovered a way to get my BT Nokia N800 to use it with a little
> tinkering. Today, 2 weeks after I had called to tell them I'd
> solved the problem, I get another followup call, just to see if I
> was happy with Alltel's service. THEY called l'il ol' ME!
> That's Alltel...They may not have the answer to your problem,
> because my problem was with my Linux tablet, not their
> phone....but they care enough to call back, something I really
> appreciate any company doing, much less a SELLphone company.
>
> You don't have to put up with Verizon's crap! They're not
> omnipotent.
>
> Larry
I heard that you have to pay alltel more $$$ when you roam on other
network's area (such as roaming on Sprint area), is this true?
- 11-16-2007, 03:08 AM #7tscottmeGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
I saw the notice of the $/MB charge but it's not showing on my monthly
statement.
--
Scott
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum
soli proscript catapultas habebunt.
"Jon" <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote in message
news:fhikp8$70t$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> tscottme wrote:
>> This question is asked often and as I understand it there is no
>> workaround for smartphones. If you want to use it as a smartphone you
>> have to pay for a data plan. Is there not a web-based solution, like
>> google or yahoo, to keeping a calandar etc. I pay $1 per month for web
>> 2.0 access on my phone. Web minutes count against my minutes except when
>> the airtime is free.
>>
>> Have you looked at howardforums for an answer?
>>
> I guess you didn't hear about verizon's new thing they have going.
>
> Unless you signed up for a data plan ($60/month) or the vcast package
> ($15/month), you are charged $2/MB of data. So now on top of the $1/month
> your paying for Web 2.0, you will also have to pay $2/MB of data. (and
> yes, that is for any non-data/vcast plans)
- 11-16-2007, 05:28 AM #8JonGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
tscottme wrote:
> I saw the notice of the $/MB charge but it's not showing on my monthly
> statement.
>
Well it was just stared beginning of this month, so it cannot show on a
monthly statement as it hasn't been a month yet!
- 11-16-2007, 12:09 PM #9LarryGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote in news:fhitr8$vjg$1
@registered.motzarella.org:
> I heard that you have to pay alltel more $$$ when you roam on
other
> network's area (such as roaming on Sprint area), is this true?
>
>
Nope.
Compare the nationwide coverage maps. That's not a roaming map....
Larry
--
Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;
- 11-17-2007, 05:18 PM #10Peter PanGuest
Re: Verizon plans - Mobile Web vs. Data Plans
Larry wrote:
> adkcamper <belknaps@yahoo.com> wrote in news:e114564d-7e9e-4dc9-
> 91c2-c0e23058a850@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I have spent a frustrating day trying to figure a way around
>> Verizon's apparent greediness. I currently use a 2 year old
>> Motorola Razr with Mobile Web 2.0. I bought a synchronization
>> product from Motorola that lets me update my phone numbers from the
>> computer. But what I really want is to stop carrying around my old
>> Palm Tungsten E and get a phone that will synch with my Outlook
>> contacts, calendar and tasks, and allow me to make updates. I don't
>> really care about the mail as I'm retired and can log in and look at
>> mail online when I want to. So what I'd like to do is keep the $5 a
>> month Mobile Web for my web access needs - it has worked fine for
>> me. However if I buy a smartphone with Windows Mobile on it,
>> Verizon tells me the only way to get web access is to buy a data
>> plan - significantly more expensive than the $5 a month I am paying
>> now.
>>
>> Wondering if anyone else has tackled this problem and come up with
>> solutions.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>
> Carolyn, does Alltel have native coverage in your city? Where
> are you?
>
> You can buy Alltel 1X service, more than fast enough at 110Kbps,
> to serve your needs for only $10/month for really unlimited
> service, no funny business. Their phone plans are much cheaper
> than VZW, too, probably easily offsetting the extra $5 for real
> internet service.
>
> Alltel, more interested in business than girls, also has many
> good smartphones to upgrade to, COMPLETELY UNHOBBLED, at really
> great subsidized prices for your 2-year-agreement. You can sync
> them via the air or cable, whichever is more convenient for you
> at the moment, without being forced by some stupid locking
> software. Alltel won't install anything on your desktop
> computer. You can even use your PDA as a phone modem if your
> office broadband fails, or use a bluetooth connection for your
> laptop at no extra charge.
>
> It just works better.....
>
> I had a problem when I switched phones to a new MotoROKR Z6M but
> discovered a way to get my BT Nokia N800 to use it with a little
> tinkering. Today, 2 weeks after I had called to tell them I'd
> solved the problem, I get another followup call, just to see if I
> was happy with Alltel's service. THEY called l'il ol' ME!
> That's Alltel...They may not have the answer to your problem,
> because my problem was with my Linux tablet, not their
> phone....but they care enough to call back, something I really
> appreciate any company doing, much less a SELLphone company.
>
> You don't have to put up with Verizon's crap! They're not
> omnipotent.
>
> Larry
Oddy (or cooley) enuf, I got an alltell phone off ebay (my verizon e815
died, so I got an alltel one), activated it on my verizon service, and all
sorts off cool things work now, that my phone didn't support... Makes me
sort of wonder, do you have to live in an alltell area? What about getting a
verizon plan with a free verizon phone, and just activating the alltel phone
on the verizon plan?

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