LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
This seems to be happening to a *lot* of people with LG phones.
The stupid buttons on the side of my VX6100 are sensitive enough such that
when the phone is in my pocket, if the volume down key is pressed and held
it switches to Manner Mode. Furthermore, that lower button on the left
switches it back and forth to driving mode.
Also, I'm starting to snap off photos in my pocket. No joke.
These buttons can get pressed simply by sitting down or walking. I'm
starting to lose patience with LG.
(I *knew* that switching away from Motorola was a crap-shoot, but the
salesman at verizon insisted that he has seen no issues whatsoever with this
phone.)
Motorola's will disable some of such functionality when the clamshell is
closed.
Is there any software update available at all that will give me an option to
fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is closed??????
Re: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
I would suggest getting a good case and attaching the phone to your belt. It
is not a good idea to put the phone in your pocket. That is the simple
solution.
Bubba
"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
>
> This seems to be happening to a *lot* of people with LG phones.
>
> The stupid buttons on the side of my VX6100 are sensitive enough such that
> when the phone is in my pocket, if the volume down key is pressed and held
> it switches to Manner Mode. Furthermore, that lower button on the left
> switches it back and forth to driving mode.
>
> Also, I'm starting to snap off photos in my pocket. No joke.
>
> These buttons can get pressed simply by sitting down or walking. I'm
> starting to lose patience with LG.
>
> (I *knew* that switching away from Motorola was a crap-shoot, but the
> salesman at verizon insisted that he has seen no issues whatsoever with
> this phone.)
>
> Motorola's will disable some of such functionality when the clamshell is
> closed.
>
> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an option
> to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is closed??????
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
> --
> With knowledge comes sorrow.
>
>
Re: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:08:23 GMT, Thomas G. Marshall wrote:
> (I *knew* that switching away from Motorola was a crap-shoot, but the
> salesman at verizon insisted that he has seen no issues whatsoever with this
> phone.)
Maybe they don't read newsgroups.
--
Up From Third Base To Huntington
They Sang Another Victory Song...
Re: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
> closed??????
Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least the VX4400.
I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You won't get one,
but at least they will have people, time and money taken up with the issue
and may actually get a clue one day.
That said, I have only had it happen to me once (I always keep my phone in my
pocket). Other people with LG phones seem to have it *A LOT*.
DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Roger Binns coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
>> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
>> option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
>> closed??????
>
> Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least
> the VX4400. I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You
> won't get
> one, but at least they will have people, time and money taken up with the
> issue and may actually get a clue one day.
>
> That said, I have only had it happen to me once (I always keep my
> phone in my pocket). Other people with LG phones seem to have it *A LOT*.
>
> Roger
I've already emailed both LG and Verizon.
LG responded quickly with "there is no way we can provide a software fix for
this, since it is up to verizon to do so."
Verizon responded with useless bull**** about how to press the keys to
activate it (something I already understood), and followed with "there is no
software update to disable this."
I am left with the following advice to everyone. DO NOT BUY LG.
--
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
If you don't like it, don't buy it... no big deal. Verizon gives everyone a
15-day trial period.
I personally like the LG-VX 6100. I use the plastic holder that comes
with it and fasten it to my belt. Occasionally I'll put it in a walking
shorts type pocket w/ no problems. My wife puts hers in her purse w/ no
problems. Overall I think the LG's are great. If there was something I
thought was better, I'd buy it. Good luck w/ your choice...
"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:vXtbe.3302$u56.1608@trndny09...
> Roger Binns coughed up:
>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
>>> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
>>> option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
>>> closed??????
>>
>> Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least
>> the VX4400. I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You
>> won't get
>> one, but at least they will have people, time and money taken up with the
>> issue and may actually get a clue one day.
>>
>> That said, I have only had it happen to me once (I always keep my
>> phone in my pocket). Other people with LG phones seem to have it *A
>> LOT*.
>>
>> Roger
>
> I've already emailed both LG and Verizon.
>
> LG responded quickly with "there is no way we can provide a software fix
> for this, since it is up to verizon to do so."
>
> Verizon responded with useless bull**** about how to press the keys to
> activate it (something I already understood), and followed with "there is
> no software update to disable this."
>
> I am left with the following advice to everyone. DO NOT BUY LG.
>
>
> --
> "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
>
>
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Dave M. coughed up:
> If you don't like it, don't buy it... no big deal. Verizon gives
> everyone a 15-day trial period.
Please don't top post after others have bottom posted. You're making a HUGE
mess!
The trial period is of no use---this is something I discovered after the
fact.
Oh well. At least I know a couple of things.
1. I am only trusting Motorola from now on. They have issues too, but I've
never had one like this.
2. I know now to test the side buttons on flip phones to see if what it is
they do when the clamshell is closed. I never in a million years would have
guessed that such sensitive buttons on the side of a phone would be allowed
to switch the phone to manner mode /with the clamshell closed/. It's just
common sense to not do this---sense LG clearly didn't have. So it never
occurred to me to check something like this.
>
> I personally like the LG-VX 6100. I use the plastic holder that
> comes with it and fasten it to my belt. Occasionally I'll put it in
> a walking shorts type pocket w/ no problems. My wife puts hers in
> her purse w/ no problems. Overall I think the LG's are great. If
> there was something I thought was better, I'd buy it. Good luck w/
> your choice...
>
>
>
>
> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:vXtbe.3302$u56.1608@trndny09...
>> Roger Binns coughed up:
>>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>>> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
>>>> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
>>>> option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
>>>> closed??????
>>>
>>> Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least
>>> the VX4400. I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You
>>> won't get
>>> one, but at least they will have people, time and money taken up
>>> with the issue and may actually get a clue one day.
>>>
>>> That said, I have only had it happen to me once (I always keep my
>>> phone in my pocket). Other people with LG phones seem to have it *A
>>> LOT*.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>
>> I've already emailed both LG and Verizon.
>>
>> LG responded quickly with "there is no way we can provide a software
>> fix for this, since it is up to verizon to do so."
>>
>> Verizon responded with useless bull**** about how to press the keys
>> to activate it (something I already understood), and followed with
>> "there is no software update to disable this."
>>
>> I am left with the following advice to everyone. DO NOT BUY LG.
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Don't put the phone in your pants pocket!!! The phones were not designed to
be carried in your pants pocket. It reduces the RF signal and you will miss
incoming calls. Buy a holster for the phone and carry it on your belt.
Problem solved very easily.
"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:jtxbe.8399$O2.2785@trndny04...
> Dave M. coughed up:
>> If you don't like it, don't buy it... no big deal. Verizon gives
>> everyone a 15-day trial period.
>
> Please don't top post after others have bottom posted. You're making a
> HUGE mess!
>
> The trial period is of no use---this is something I discovered after the
> fact.
>
> Oh well. At least I know a couple of things.
>
> 1. I am only trusting Motorola from now on. They have issues too, but
> I've never had one like this.
>
> 2. I know now to test the side buttons on flip phones to see if what it is
> they do when the clamshell is closed. I never in a million years would
> have guessed that such sensitive buttons on the side of a phone would be
> allowed to switch the phone to manner mode /with the clamshell closed/.
> It's just common sense to not do this---sense LG clearly didn't have. So
> it never occurred to me to check something like this.
>
>
>>
>> I personally like the LG-VX 6100. I use the plastic holder that
>> comes with it and fasten it to my belt. Occasionally I'll put it in
>> a walking shorts type pocket w/ no problems. My wife puts hers in
>> her purse w/ no problems. Overall I think the LG's are great. If
>> there was something I thought was better, I'd buy it. Good luck w/
>> your choice...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:vXtbe.3302$u56.1608@trndny09...
>>> Roger Binns coughed up:
>>>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>>>> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
>>>>> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
>>>>> option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
>>>>> closed??????
>>>>
>>>> Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least
>>>> the VX4400. I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You
>>>> won't get
>>>> one, but at least they will have people, time and money taken up
>>>> with the issue and may actually get a clue one day.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I have only had it happen to me once (I always keep my
>>>> phone in my pocket). Other people with LG phones seem to have it *A
>>>> LOT*.
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>
>>> I've already emailed both LG and Verizon.
>>>
>>> LG responded quickly with "there is no way we can provide a software
>>> fix for this, since it is up to verizon to do so."
>>>
>>> Verizon responded with useless bull**** about how to press the keys
>>> to activate it (something I already understood), and followed with
>>> "there is no software update to disable this."
>>>
>>> I am left with the following advice to everyone. DO NOT BUY LG.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
>
>
>
> --
> Whyowhydidn'tsunmakejavarequireanuppercaselettertostartclassnames....
>
>
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
It is not just the antenna poking you problem. The antenna is so close to
your body that it significantly attenuates the RF performance of the phone.
Cell phone signals are also vertically polarized and therefore the phone
should be kept upright for optimal performance. This is a very well known
fact in RF engineering. Why don't you just get a leather case or pouch and
carry the phone on your belt?
"Sentinel" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:lq9t61ptp3o2b32tv0qc9fp73r1dq439f7@4ax.com...
>I have tried to carry that phone in my pocket and it is painful. That
> antena pokes you and I think it could break off. It is no good in a
> pocket.
>
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:39:59 -0700, Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
>>Don't put the phone in your pants pocket!!! The phones were not designed
>>to
>>be carried in your pants pocket. It reduces the RF signal and you will
>>miss
>>incoming calls. Buy a holster for the phone and carry it on your belt.
>>Problem solved very easily.
>>
>>
>>"Thomas G. Marshall"
>><tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
>>wrote in message news:jtxbe.8399$O2.2785@trndny04...
>>> Dave M. coughed up:
>>>> If you don't like it, don't buy it... no big deal. Verizon gives
>>>> everyone a 15-day trial period.
>>>
>>> Please don't top post after others have bottom posted. You're making a
>>> HUGE mess!
>>>
>>> The trial period is of no use---this is something I discovered after the
>>> fact.
>>>
>>> Oh well. At least I know a couple of things.
>>>
>>> 1. I am only trusting Motorola from now on. They have issues too, but
>>> I've never had one like this.
>>>
>>> 2. I know now to test the side buttons on flip phones to see if what it
>>> is
>>> they do when the clamshell is closed. I never in a million years would
>>> have guessed that such sensitive buttons on the side of a phone would be
>>> allowed to switch the phone to manner mode /with the clamshell closed/.
>>> It's just common sense to not do this---sense LG clearly didn't have.
>>> So
>>> it never occurred to me to check something like this.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I personally like the LG-VX 6100. I use the plastic holder that
>>>> comes with it and fasten it to my belt. Occasionally I'll put it in
>>>> a walking shorts type pocket w/ no problems. My wife puts hers in
>>>> her purse w/ no problems. Overall I think the LG's are great. If
>>>> there was something I thought was better, I'd buy it. Good luck w/
>>>> your choice...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>>>> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:vXtbe.3302$u56.1608@trndny09...
>>>>> Roger Binns coughed up:
>>>>>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>>>>>> <tgm2tothe10thpower@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:HJ7be.1675$oD6.97@trndny07...
>>>>>>> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
>>>>>>> option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
>>>>>>> closed??????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least
>>>>>> the VX4400. I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You
>>>>>> won't get
>>>>>> one, but at least they will have people, time and money taken up
>>>>>> with the issue and may actually get a clue one day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I have only had it happen to me once (I always keep my
>>>>>> phone in my pocket). Other people with LG phones seem to have it *A
>>>>>> LOT*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>
>>>>> I've already emailed both LG and Verizon.
>>>>>
>>>>> LG responded quickly with "there is no way we can provide a software
>>>>> fix for this, since it is up to verizon to do so."
>>>>>
>>>>> Verizon responded with useless bull**** about how to press the keys
>>>>> to activate it (something I already understood), and followed with
>>>>> "there is no software update to disable this."
>>>>>
>>>>> I am left with the following advice to everyone. DO NOT BUY LG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Whyowhydidn'tsunmakejavarequireanuppercaselettertostartclassnames....
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Mij Adyaw coughed up:
> It is not just the antenna poking you problem. The antenna is so
> close to your body that it significantly attenuates the RF
> performance of the phone. Cell phone signals are also vertically
> polarized and therefore the phone should be kept upright for optimal
> performance. This is a very well known fact in RF engineering. Why
> don't you just get a leather case or pouch and carry the phone on
> your belt?
1. I read a complaint that even having that phone on a clip will cause the
same behavior, since it is easy to move in such a way that the button is
pressed.
2. I do not /want/ a phone anywhere but in my pocket. It's a matter of
what you're used to, and what you like. If I cannot put a phone in my
pocket, then I don't want it. Period, end of chapter, end of story.
After my eons of having a wired-into-the-car phones (all Motorola), I
switched to the StarTac. Awesome phone. In the pocket. No issues, except
that the antenna tip was allowed to bend. $10 fix every year or so.
Eventually I switched to a moto T720i. Perfect in the pocket. Now this
phone. Except for the stupid buttons, it'd be fine in the pocket.
To me, phones, loose change, keys, are all pocket items. There's nothing
wrong with that.
--
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that evolve and how they interact, hunt, swim, etc. (Unaffiliated with
me). http://www.frams.alife.pl/
Re: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
"Roger Binns"
| > Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
| > closed??????
|
| Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least the
VX4400.
| I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix. You won't get one,
| but at least they will have people, time and money taken up with the issue
| and may actually get a clue one day.
LG tells folk that the 'feature' is a VZN requirement and to call VZN.
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
"Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:zGxbe.90334$A31.75383@fed1read03...
| Don't put the phone in your pants pocket!!! The phones were not designed
to
| be carried in your pants pocket. It reduces the RF signal and you will
miss
| incoming calls. Buy a holster for the phone and carry it on your belt.
| Problem solved very easily.
|
Just how great is the RF attenuation from resting in my pocket vs. that on
the side of the belt? Same applies to the phone in my wife's purse or in my
brief case covered by car keys and whatever other 'stuff' might be in there
as well?
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Physical proximity of the phone antenna to your body causes the phone to
loose signal. The body is a very good attenuator of RF signals. If you do
not believe this, in a low signal area, note the reading on the phone's
signal meter and then hold your hand against the antenna. You will notice
that the signal meter will drop a bar or two. When the phone is on your belt
it is not in direct contact with your body, the signal is not attenuated as
much a if the phone is in your pants pocket.
"Not Me" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:K3Bbe.22231$Ow2.18984@fe06.lga...
>
> "Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:zGxbe.90334$A31.75383@fed1read03...
> | Don't put the phone in your pants pocket!!! The phones were not designed
> to
> | be carried in your pants pocket. It reduces the RF signal and you will
> miss
> | incoming calls. Buy a holster for the phone and carry it on your belt.
> | Problem solved very easily.
> |
>
> Just how great is the RF attenuation from resting in my pocket vs. that on
> the side of the belt? Same applies to the phone in my wife's purse or in
> my
> brief case covered by car keys and whatever other 'stuff' might be in
> there
> as well?
>
>
Re: DO NOT BUY LG CELL PHONES!!!!!-----WAS: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Mij Adyaw coughed up:
> Physical proximity of the phone antenna to your body causes the phone
> to loose signal. The body is a very good attenuator of RF signals. If
> you do not believe this, in a low signal area, note the reading on
> the phone's signal meter and then hold your hand against the antenna.
> You will notice that the signal meter will drop a bar or two. When
> the phone is on your belt it is not in direct contact with your body,
> the signal is not attenuated as much a if the phone is in your pants
> pocket.
Please STOP top posting after others have bottom posted!!! It makes a mess
of the messages and is VERY RUDE!!!
Regarding your reply: Is the attenuation directly related to the water in
the body? Curious.
In any case, I've not missed calls before with [moto] cell phones in my
pocket---at least no one, particularly my wife, have complained about not
getting to me. But with this LG, I *do* miss the call when it's vibrating.
Perhaps the ring volume is alterable as well by the side buttons with the
clamshell closed, which could definitely cause missed calls, but I'll have
to experiment with that.
And the point is moot: I think a cell phone stuck on the belt looks
silly---I /want/ the thing in my pocket.
>
>
> "Not Me" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:K3Bbe.22231$Ow2.18984@fe06.lga...
>>
>> "Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:zGxbe.90334$A31.75383@fed1read03...
>>> Don't put the phone in your pants pocket!!! The phones were not
>>> designed to be carried in your pants pocket. It reduces the RF
>>> signal and you will miss incoming calls. Buy a holster for the
>>> phone and carry it on your belt. Problem solved very easily.
>>>
>>
>> Just how great is the RF attenuation from resting in my pocket vs.
>> that on the side of the belt? Same applies to the phone in my
>> wife's purse or in my
>> brief case covered by car keys and whatever other 'stuff' might be in
>> there
>> as well?
--
"Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity!
Two weeks from everywhere!"
Re: LG VX6100 switches to "Manner Mode" in my pocket(!!)
Not Me coughed up:
> "Roger Binns"
>
>>> Is there any software update available at all that will give me an
> option to fully disable the side buttons when the clamshell is
>>> closed??????
>>
>> Nope. This "feature" has been present in LG phones since at least
>> the VX4400. I always tell people to call up LG and ask for a fix.
>> You won't get one, but at least they will have people, time and
>> money taken up with the issue and may actually get a clue one day.
>
> LG tells folk that the 'feature' is a VZN requirement and to call VZN.
>
> VZN's responce is it's a 'feature'
Bingo. Did you get that from my post alone, or did you bump into the same
thing, or are you merely guessing really well?
--
"Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity!
Two weeks from everywhere!"
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