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Old 05-17-2005, 08:27 PM #1
Joe Altmyer
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Re: Nextel Walkie Talkie??


ameijers wrote:
>
> "Andy Hill" <andy_hill@hp.com> wrote in message
> news:k0th81lmc6ua01pu7d9eftmfjn5vnq58rk@4ax.com...
> > "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >...
> > >I have a property in the mountains where there are no signal bars for
> > >miles and was wondering how I could stay in touch with someone about 20
> > >miles away.
> > >
> > >Are there regular walkie talkies with 20+ mile range?
> > >

> > I doubt you'll find anything in the walkie-talkie form factor that can do

> 20+,
> > mainly due to the antenna requirements. To go 20+ in the UHF (such as

> the
> > GMRS radios) band, you'll want a pretty tall antenna to have any chance at

> of
> > doing a point-to-point. Now, if you want to get fancy, you could both

> set up
> > GMRS repeaters at your sites, and then as long as you're both within range

> of
> > your respective repeaters (2 miles, more or less), you can communicate

> with
> > handhelds (but not the cheapie, super-FRS handhelds -- you need a handheld
> > capable of duplex operation to use a repeater). Better really want to

> talk
> > to the guy, 'tho -- it won't be cheap to implement.
> >

> Maybe so, maybe no- depends how tall the mountain is, and if a ridgeline is
> between him and his buddy. We routinely get close to 10 miles point-to-point
> with 5w vhf walkie talkies on our system on flat ground in an urban setting,
> and 40 miles plus running through the repeater 140 feet in the air. Note
> that these are 'real' walkie talkies, about $750 a pop. No idea what the
> licensing costs would be for civilians- this is a federal system. VHF has
> real good range, as long as you can get up high enough for line-of-sight.
> Not advocating breaking any laws, but I do know there are plenty of bootleg
> bastard-frequency systems out there, and the hardware is available cheap on
> ebay. People just find a locally vacant freq, and set up shop.
>
> In the low-buck arena, a couple of CB base stations and tuned/aimed antennas
> on a 20-foot push-up poles would probably work most of the time. Utterly no
> privacy of course, but cheap and easy.
>
> OP may wanna post the same questions over in the rec.radio groups.
>
> aem sends...


All repeaters have good range, period. VHF is much better than
UHF, too!

Joe


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Old 05-17-2005, 11:47 PM #2
Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS
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Re: Nextel Walkie Talkie??


Joe Altmyer <altmyerj@thenet.com> wrote:

>All repeaters have good range, period. VHF is much better than
>UHF, too!


Not in general. Especially with handhelds often UHF is better, due to
better antennae on both handheld and repeater side.



regards - Ralph

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