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Old 06-26-2005, 07:00 PM #1
webcar2001@hotmail.com
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Cell site question


Hi everyone!!

I'm courios about some cell site towers where net-like flat sheets can
be seen to the sides of some antennas (panels). Anybody know what is
the purpose of this sheets surrounding a panel?

I'm writing from Colombia (South America), any comment will be really
appreciated.



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Old 06-27-2005, 11:56 PM #2
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Re: Cell site question


Maybe it works like a reflector to make the antenna more directional or
like a screen to limit the radiation to the rear or side.

webcar2001@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi everyone!!
>
> I'm courios about some cell site towers where net-like flat sheets can
> be seen to the sides of some antennas (panels). Anybody know what is
> the purpose of this sheets surrounding a panel?
>
> I'm writing from Colombia (South America), any comment will be really
> appreciated.
>


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Frank Harris in San Francisco with an A680
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Old 07-03-2005, 08:39 AM #3
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Re: Cell site question


They are sheilds to make the antenna more directional.

<webcar2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi everyone!!
>
> I'm courios about some cell site towers where net-like flat sheets can
> be seen to the sides of some antennas (panels). Anybody know what is
> the purpose of this sheets surrounding a panel?
>
> I'm writing from Colombia (South America), any comment will be really
> appreciated.
>



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Old 07-03-2005, 08:39 AM #4
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"Frank Harris" <frankbhX@XcompuserveX.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe it works like a reflector to make the antenna more directional or
> like a screen to limit the radiation to the rear or side.


Exactly!

>
> webcar2001@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Hi everyone!!
>>
>> I'm courios about some cell site towers where net-like flat sheets can
>> be seen to the sides of some antennas (panels). Anybody know what is
>> the purpose of this sheets surrounding a panel?
>>
>> I'm writing from Colombia (South America), any comment will be really
>> appreciated.
>>

>
> --
> Frank Harris in San Francisco with an A680



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Old 07-03-2005, 08:45 AM #5
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Re: Cell site question


"John S." wrote:
>
> They are sheilds to make the antenna more directional.


Why would you want a directional antenna?

Notan
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:01 PM #6
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Notan wrote:
> "John S." wrote:
>
>>They are sheilds to make the antenna more directional.

>
> Why would you want a directional antenna?


They want a given cell site to cover a particular area, to maximize call
capacity. With GSM systems, the issue is frequency re-use. With CDMA
systems, everyone is on the same frequency, so you want to minimize the
noise (that is, calls other than your own) in a particular location, but
not have holes with no coverage.
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Old 07-03-2005, 06:43 PM #7
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CharlesH wrote:
>
> Notan wrote:
> > "John S." wrote:
> >
> >>They are sheilds to make the antenna more directional.

> >
> > Why would you want a directional antenna?

>
> They want a given cell site to cover a particular area, to maximize call
> capacity. With GSM systems, the issue is frequency re-use. With CDMA
> systems, everyone is on the same frequency, so you want to minimize the
> noise (that is, calls other than your own) in a particular location, but
> not have holes with no coverage.


Wouldn't "not have holes with no coverage" suggest an omni-directional
antenna?

Notan
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:01 PM #8
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Notan wrote:
> CharlesH wrote:
>
>>Notan wrote:
>>
>>>"John S." wrote:
>>>
>>>>They are sheilds to make the antenna more directional.
>>>
>>>Why would you want a directional antenna?

>>
>>They want a given cell site to cover a particular area, to maximize call
>>capacity. With GSM systems, the issue is frequency re-use. With CDMA
>>systems, everyone is on the same frequency, so you want to minimize the
>>noise (that is, calls other than your own) in a particular location, but
>>not have holes with no coverage.

>
> Wouldn't "not have holes with no coverage" suggest an omni-directional
> antenna?


A lot of times they are trying to fill in specific gaps caused by hills,
valleys, large buildings, and so on. If the coverage area were just a
nice big perfectly flat area, it would be easy.
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:38 AM #9
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"Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
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> "John S." wrote:
>>
>> They are sheilds to make the antenna more directional.

>
> Why would you want a directional antenna?


Cellular is a "directional" type of service. In order to re-use the same
frequency in a nother cell the antennas are directional. That is why you
will typically see 6 antennas (2 per sector/3 sectors) on a cell site. At
thimes you will see 3 per sector and occasionally more.

More than 3 per sector typically means that they still have TDMA and AMPS
which they have moved to another antenna.

CDMA usually has 2 antennas per sector.


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Old 07-04-2005, 08:39 AM #10
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"Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
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> CharlesH wrote:


>> They want a given cell site to cover a particular area, to maximize call
>> capacity. With GSM systems, the issue is frequency re-use. With CDMA
>> systems, everyone is on the same frequency, so you want to minimize the
>> noise (that is, calls other than your own) in a particular location, but
>> not have holes with no coverage.

>
> Wouldn't "not have holes with no coverage" suggest an omni-directional
> antenna?


But then the Omni wouldn't allow re-use of that fequency at adjacent cells.
Cellular was designed with directional antennas in mind.


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