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  1. #1
    The Cuddly Curmudgeon
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    I am NOT a big user of telephones, but see a need to have a cellular
    phone and am considering Tracfone as a provider.

    Question: how is the per-minute billing charged... i.e., if I make (or
    take) a call that lasts only 30 seconds, am I billed only for that 30
    seconds or is time billed by pre-set increments no matter the actual
    time used?

    TCC




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  2. #2
    Stanley Reynolds
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    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question


    "The Cuddly Curmudgeon" <krmujn@ameritech.net> wrote in message
    news:1123442102.083204.105820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > I am NOT a big user of telephones, but see a need to have a cellular
    > phone and am considering Tracfone as a provider.
    >
    > Question: how is the per-minute billing charged... i.e., if I make (or
    > take) a call that lasts only 30 seconds, am I billed only for that 30
    > seconds or is time billed by pre-set increments no matter the actual
    > time used?
    >
    > TCC
    >

    1 min unless roaming then 2 min
    http://www.tracfone.com/rates.jsp?ne...jsp&task=rates
    Almost all providers bill in 1 min increments.





  3. #3
    The Cuddly Curmudgeon
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    Stanley Reynolds wrote:

    > > Question: how is the per-minute billing charged... i.e., if I make (or
    > > take) a call that lasts only 30 seconds, am I billed only for that 30
    > > seconds or is time billed by pre-set increments no matter the actual
    > > time used?

    >
    > 1 min unless roaming then 2 min


    Cool.

    Thanks.




  4. #4
    JoshIII
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    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question


    "Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:7nref1l5sl8uahrlu6p0b53abc08vofm06@4ax.com...
    > You are billed in full minute increments and also billed "send-to-end"
    > meaning that if you start to process a call not only are you billed
    > when the end party answers (or you encounter an answering machine or
    > voicemail.) You are not billed if the end number does not answer but
    > you are billed the actual talk time plus ringing time and the time it
    > takes to "take down" your connection. This means that all calls will
    > bill for at least one minute since there's full minute increment
    > billing and depending on when the line is answered after it starts
    > ringing the billing of the call may in part be determined on the time
    > before actual talk time ensues.


    Not entirely correct with TracFone.

    With TracFone CDMA models you are charged one unit per minute (2 units per
    minute if roaming) after the first 14 seconds whether the other person
    answers or not. If you End the call before 14 seconds is up, you are
    charged nothing. When receiving a call, you are charged one unit (2 units
    if roaming) the second you answer the call. For each additional minute
    (after the first minute) you will be charged 1 unit per minute (2 units per
    minute if roaming).

    With TracFone GSM (single rate) models when placing calls you are not
    charged until the other person answers the phone, then you are charged one
    unit per minute whether you are in your local calling area or roaming. When
    receiving calls you are charged one unit per minute the second you answer
    the call.

    With TracFone TDMA models (I am not sure about TDMA TracFones), but I think
    TDMA timing rules are a cross between the GSM single rate plan and CDMA
    where 1 unit per minute if local & 2 units per minute when roaming. When
    placing calls you are not charged anything until the person answers the
    phone, then charged 1 unit per minute (2 units per minute if roaming) for
    each additional minute. When receiving calls you are charged 1 unit per
    minute if local and 2 units per minute if roaming the second you answer the
    TracFone. For TracFones, TDMA models local calling areas are usually larger
    than CDMA models local calling areas, but not always.

    JoshIII
    josh3i@hotmail.com
    Activating a new or refurbished TracFone soon?
    Be sure to get a referral (by email) from a
    TracFone user and you'll both receive 100 FREE
    minutes airtime! Check out the refurbished
    Nokia 2285/1221/1100 *give away* specials at:
    www.tracfone.com
    TracFone uses Alltel, Verizon, Cingular, AT&T,
    T-Mobile, and Suncom wireless networks, just to
    name a few. I've been a satisfied TracFone user 4 yrs.











  5. #5
    The Cuddly Curmudgeon
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    CDMA?

    GSM??

    TDMA???

    All that I want is a phone that works in the Chicago urban/suburban
    area and that only charges me for time spent talking/listening... i.e.,
    I don't wanna pay for a call IN that rings my line more than a few
    seconds.

    AND I have a question about voice mail: do I pay for the time a person
    spends leaving me a message, or for the time I spend listening to it?

    Thanks




  6. #6
    JoshIII
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    "The Cuddly Curmudgeon" <krmujn@ameritech.net> wrote in message
    news:1123892126.077552.264690@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
    > CDMA?
    > GSM??
    > TDMA???
    > All that I want is a phone that works in the Chicago urban/suburban
    > area and that only charges me for time spent talking/listening... i.e.,
    > I don't wanna pay for a call IN that rings my line more than a few
    > seconds.


    Different carriers use different technologies: Some carriers use more than
    one technology.
    CDMA (Verizon, Alltel, Sprint, Cellular One, Suncom, others)
    TDMA (Cingular, AT&T, others)
    GSM (Cingular, T-Mobile)

    Note: TracFone airtime cards are available at Walmart, Target, Kmart,
    grocery stores, just about everywhere. Not so with other prepaid plans.

    I would recommend choosing a TracFone model that supports either CDMA or
    GSM. TDMA is slowly but surely being phased out, and will be gone in a
    couple of years.

    For Zip Code 60622 (Chicago, IL), going to the www.tracfone.com website it
    shows you can activate TracFone models that use CDMA or TDMA or
    GSM.technologies.

    If coverage is most important to you, but roaming rate is twice the local
    rate, choose one of the following CDMA TracFone models (c343, 5180i, 120,
    2285)

    If you want coverage in Chicago (urban/suburban), and near interstate
    highways, but poor rural area coverage, choose one of the following
    single-rate (free roaming) GSM TracFone models (c155,v170,2600,1100).

    You never are charged minutes when others call you, until you answer the
    phone. That is when the airtime clock starts. If you don't answer, they
    are sent to your voice mailbox, where they can leave a message.

    >
    > AND I have a question about voice mail: do I pay for the time a person
    > spends leaving me a message, or for the time I spend listening to it?


    If you use your TracFone to listen to your voice mailbox messages, you
    airtime deducts for the time you are in the call to your mailbox. If you
    use a landline phone to listen to your voice mailbox messages, you are not
    charged any minutes on your TracFone. You are not charged minutes when
    others leave messages on your voice mailbox.

    Send me an email if you like.

    joshiii
    josh3i@hotmail.com
    upstate south carolina
    Activating a new or refurbished TracFone soon?
    Be sure to get a referral (by email) from a
    TracFone user *before* you activate and you'll
    both receive 100 FREE minutes airtime! Check
    out the refurbished Nokia 2285/1221/1100
    *give away* specials at: www.tracfone.com
    TracFone uses Alltel, Verizon, Cingular, AT&T,
    T-Mobile, and Suncom wireless networks, just to
    name a few. I've been a satisfied TracFone user 4 yrs.





  7. #7
    The Cuddly Curmudgeon
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    JoshIII wrote:

    > Different carriers use different technologies: Some carriers
    > use more than one technology.
    > CDMA (Verizon, Alltel, Sprint, Cellular One, Suncom, others)
    > TDMA (Cingular, AT&T, others)
    > GSM (Cingular, T-Mobile)


    Understood.

    > Note: TracFone airtime cards are available at Walmart, Target, Kmart,
    > grocery stores, just about everywhere. Not so with other prepaid plans.


    Understood.

    > I would recommend choosing a TracFone model that supports either CDMA or
    > GSM. TDMA is slowly but surely being phased out, and will be gone in a
    > couple of years.
    >
    > For Zip Code 60622 (Chicago, IL), going to the www.tracfone.com website it
    > shows you can activate TracFone models that use CDMA or TDMA or
    > GSM.technologies.


    FINE. How do I know which phone is which? I've been to the tracfone
    site a freakin' dozen times and see no reference (maybe I'm blind) to
    CDMA, GSM, etc.

    > If you want coverage in Chicago (urban/suburban), and near interstate
    > highways, but poor rural area coverage, choose one of the following
    > single-rate (free roaming) GSM TracFone models (c155,v170,2600,1100).
    >
    > You never are charged minutes when others call you, until you answer the
    > phone. That is when the airtime clock starts. If you don't answer, they
    > are sent to your voice mailbox, where they can leave a message.


    AHA!... the 2600 is available locally in stores. Not sure about the
    1100.

    [snip of some very helpful stuff about voicemail charges]

    > Send me an email if you like.


    No need (YET!). You've been very helpful.

    OOPS! I'll be contacting you about the 100 "free" airtime minutes, I'm
    sure.




  8. #8
    The Cuddly Curmudgeon
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    JoshIII wrote:

    > With TracFone GSM (single rate) models when placing calls you are not
    > charged until the other person answers the phone, then you are charged one
    > unit per minute whether you are in your local calling area or roaming.


    According to this site:

    http://www.cellguru.net/tracfone.htm

    an outgoing call on a GSM (single rate) plan is charged even if the
    line is busy or if there is no answer.

    If that's true, then Virgin Mobile is looking better here.




  9. #9
    JoshIII
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    > JoshIII wrote:
    >
    > > With TracFone GSM (single rate) models when placing calls you are not
    > > charged until the other person answers the phone, then you are charged

    one
    > > unit per minute whether you are in your local calling area or roaming.



    "The Cuddly Curmudgeon" <krmujn@ameritech.net> wrote in message
    news:1123987967.631414.13430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >
    > According to this site:
    >
    > http://www.cellguru.net/tracfone.htm
    >
    > an outgoing call on a GSM (single rate) plan is charged even if the
    > line is busy or if there is no answer.
    >
    > If that's true, then Virgin Mobile is looking better here.
    >


    I have a Nokia 1100 GSM TracFone (single rate) that was activated on the
    Cingular network. Cellguru is wrong in this particular instance.

    T-Mobile also supports TracFone GSM models, and I can't vouch for GSM
    TracFone's activated on the T-Mobile network.

    If you are worried about Cingular GSM coverage in rural areas, then stay
    away from Virgin Mobile (that only uses the Sprint network). No roaming
    allowed on other networks with Virgin Mobile. Cingular GSM network coverage
    isn't great yet, but its better than Sprint's.

    Good Luck!

    JoshIII
    josh3i@hotmail.com
    upstate south carolina
    Activating a new or refurbished TracFone soon?
    Be sure to get a referral (by email) from a
    TracFone user *before* you activate and you'll
    both receive 100 FREE minutes airtime! Check
    out the refurbished Nokia 2285/1221/1100
    *give away* specials at: www.tracfone.com
    TracFone uses Alltel, Verizon, Cingular, AT&T,
    T-Mobile, and Suncom wireless networks, just to
    name a few. I've been a satisfied TracFone user 4 yrs.











  10. #10
    The Cuddly Curmudgeon
    Guest

    Re: Tracfone per-minute billing question

    JoshIII wrote:

    > I have a Nokia 1100 GSM TracFone (single rate) that was activated on the
    > Cingular network. Cellguru is wrong in this particular instance.
    >
    > T-Mobile also supports TracFone GSM models, and I can't vouch for GSM
    > TracFone's activated on the T-Mobile network.


    Looks like Tracfone uses Cingular in my area (Chicago).

    I'm wondering about Cellguru's caution/warning about Tracfone's
    in-the-phone time-accounting system. What are the disadvantages...
    other than if the phone craps out and/or somehow loses that info?

    > If you are worried about Cingular GSM coverage in rural areas [snip]


    Nope. Stay close to home (am practically a codger!) - don't even own a
    car or drive any more. Probably won't even use the minimum minutes,
    which is one reason I'm thinking of going with Virgin. Only costs $15
    every three months to maintain activation on their min2min program, and
    I can set it to auto-refill whenever the period is about to expire or
    whenever my balance gets as low as $5. That should become even more
    important as Alzheimer's begins to set in <VBG>.

    I can see how Tracfone might be a good option for you, what with the
    100-minute bonuses for new sign-ups. I don't have the time or the
    inclination to pursue them. Question: do Tracfone's unused minutes
    rollover as long as you keep the account activated?




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