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  1. #16
    Bruce Markowitz
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    Re: How to measure GPRS connection speed?

    Whoa!
    I have tested EDGE and gotten over 110k ACTUAL
    Where do you get those figures from?

    On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:14:48 GMT, John Navas
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >[POSTED TO alt.cellular.gsm - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    >In <[email protected]> on Tue, 04 Oct
    >2005 23:07:11 GMT, John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>In <[email protected]> on Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:18:04 +1000, John
    >>Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>John Navas wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Extended Range GSM works over much greater distances.
    >>>
    >>>Unfortunately, GPRS and Extended Range are mutually exclusive.
    >>>ER cells can't handle dynamic timeslot allocation in the way
    >>>that GPRS requires.
    >>>
    >>>GPRS-capable cells have a maximum range of 35 km (limited by
    >>>Timing Advance).

    >>
    >>Cells can have a mix of standard and extended range channels.

    >
    >Oops. Hit the wrong key and sent the message before it was finished:
    >
    > An extended range site give a theoretical max upload and download on EDGE
    > of 59.2 kbps, down to 8 kbps in really poor conditions. If the radio signal
    > is OK this beats telephone dial-up!
    >
    >
    ><http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:9gC5PPvN2y8J:www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-19418.html+gprs+extended-range+gprs&hl=en&client=firefox-a>
    >
    >--
    >Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    >John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>





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  2. #17
    John Navas
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    Re: How to measure GPRS connection speed?

    Read the entire context. This is for an Extended Range cell.

    I typically get 150+ Kbps on a normal cell with EGPRS(EDGE) Class 10.


    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:49:21
    GMT, [email protected] (Bruce Markowitz) wrote:

    >Whoa!
    >I have tested EDGE and gotten over 110k ACTUAL
    >Where do you get those figures from?
    >
    >On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:14:48 GMT, John Navas
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>In <[email protected]> on Tue, 04 Oct
    >>2005 23:07:11 GMT, John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>In <[email protected]> on Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:18:04 +1000, John
    >>>Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>John Navas wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Extended Range GSM works over much greater distances.
    >>>>
    >>>>Unfortunately, GPRS and Extended Range are mutually exclusive.
    >>>>ER cells can't handle dynamic timeslot allocation in the way
    >>>>that GPRS requires.
    >>>>
    >>>>GPRS-capable cells have a maximum range of 35 km (limited by
    >>>>Timing Advance).
    >>>
    >>>Cells can have a mix of standard and extended range channels.

    >>
    >>Oops. Hit the wrong key and sent the message before it was finished:
    >>
    >> An extended range site give a theoretical max upload and download on EDGE
    >> of 59.2 kbps, down to 8 kbps in really poor conditions. If the radio signal
    >> is OK this beats telephone dial-up!
    >>
    >>
    >><http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:9gC5PPvN2y8J:www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/index.php/t-19418.html+gprs+extended-range+gprs&hl=en&client=firefox-a>


    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  3. #18
    Joakim Persson
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    Re: How to measure GPRS connection speed?

    On 6 Oct 2005 08:36:28 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >> UMTS (WCDMA) can work over that distance. A Yagi might be of value in that
    >> case.

    >
    >I didn't realize UMTS would work at this distance. If it will this may
    >be the better alternative for me to pursue.


    At the very least, it's worth a shot.

    >Do you know what date transmission rate I can exptect with UMTS at 18
    >km?


    Impossible to tell without trying. Available data transmission rate
    for UMTS depends a lot on signal/noise ratio and available capacity in
    the UMTS cell.

    >Do you think I will be able to connect with only the built in antenna
    >on a cell phone?


    Impossible to tell without trying.

    >Do I need a clear line of sight to a tower?


    It helps, especially for a directional antenna.

    >What effect will obstacles such as buildings, haze and fine sand have
    >on connection speed?


    It will degrade both the received signal power and the signal/noise
    error ratio. Haze, fog and rain will all severely degrade your radio
    signal, especially for the higher frequencies (GSM 1800 and UMTS, for
    example). Each object between your UE and the base station will absorb
    or reflect some of the signal, which means the signal power will be
    weaker once it reaches your UE.

    --
    Joakim Persson
    M.Sc student, CS/E @ LTH



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