Propanol or disinfectant made insulation stiff?

I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's hands-free
kit. I used neat propanol and, separately, dilute benzalkonium
chloride.

I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!

Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?

JS




DETAILS: my hands free is a genuine Nokia part.
http://www.cellular-battery.com/nokia/hdc5/hdc5-3.jpg

I can't tell you what plastic is used for the lead but I think
someone could make a good guess.

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"JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's hands-free
> kit. I used neat propanol and, separately, dilute benzalkonium
> chloride.
>
> I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!
>
> Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?

What was the BAC diluted IN? If water, then it is not the
cause.
The propanol can remove surface oils, etc, which might
make the lead a little harder.

"JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's
> hands-free kit. I used neat propanol and, separately,
> dilute benzalkonium chloride.
> I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!
> Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?
> JS
> DETAILS: my hands free is a genuine Nokia part.
> http://www.cellular-battery.com/nokia/hdc5/hdc5-3.jpg
> I can't tell you what plastic is used for the lead but I think
> someone could make a good guess.
>
[hanson]
That's a common problem, but these items are not formulated
to last. They have to be degradable (Thank the green ****s for
that.) So, your problem may have occurred even without your
cleaning. -- Your n-C3H7OH (or IPA) may have leached out the
plasticizers if the matrix was PVC. However there are so many,
many soft/pliable plastics formulations [1] on the market it could
be almost anything: ABS, Urethanes, etc.
Check google for [1] or e-mail Nokia's customer service with your
issue. They might send you a new one for free. Good luck.
hanson

In article <uSZkf.2108$xg1.1344@trnddc03>, "hanson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's
>> hands-free kit. I used neat propanol and, separately,
>> dilute benzalkonium chloride.
>> I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!
>> Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?
>> JS
>> DETAILS: my hands free is a genuine Nokia part.
>> http://www.cellular-battery.com/nokia/hdc5/hdc5-3.jpg
>> I can't tell you what plastic is used for the lead but I think
>> someone could make a good guess.
>>
>[hanson]
>That's a common problem, but these items are not formulated
>to last. They have to be degradable (Thank the green ****s for
>that.) So, your problem may have occurred even without your
>cleaning. -- Your n-C3H7OH (or IPA) may have leached out the
>plasticizers if the matrix was PVC. However there are so many,
>many soft/pliable plastics formulations [1] on the market it could
>be almost anything: ABS, Urethanes, etc.
>Check google for [1] or e-mail Nokia's customer service with your
>issue. They might send you a new one for free. Good luck.
>hanson
>
>
>
>

What, no insane laughter? You're slipping.

"David Bostwick" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
"hanson" <[email protected]> wrote in <uSZkf.2108$xg1.1344@trnddc03>,
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.c...cc594704448b0b
>
>>"JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's
>>> hands-free kit. I used neat propanol and, separately,
>>> dilute benzalkonium chloride.
>>> I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!
>>> Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?
>>> JS
>>> DETAILS: my hands free is a genuine Nokia part.
>>> http://www.cellular-battery.com/nokia/hdc5/hdc5-3.jpg
>>> I can't tell you what plastic is used for the lead but I think
>>> someone could make a good guess.
>>>
>>[hanson]
>>That's a common problem, but these items are not formulated
>>to last. They have to be degradable (Thank the green ****s for
>>that.) So, your problem may have occurred even without your
>>cleaning. -- Your n-C3H7OH (or IPA) may have leached out the
>>plasticizers if the matrix was PVC. However there are so many,
>>many soft/pliable plastics formulations [1] on the market it could
>>be almost anything: ABS, Urethanes, etc.
>>Check google for [1] or e-mail Nokia's customer service with your
>>issue. They might send you a new one for free. Good luck.
>>hanson
>>
[David Bostwick]
> What, no insane laughter? You're slipping.
>
[hanson]
ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahaha.... Does that placate your yearnings?
But if you have issues or an attitude problem over or with what I have
said then address your concerns to the greenies, especially to the
class 3 enviros. Are you one of them? ... Here is a reorientation, for
your benefit, dude, because whenever I post the combination of
"AHAHAHA... ahahaha.." and "Green" it causes a lot of people
to fall into a severe state of a "green guilt by association". They
then get depressed over the self-discovery that they belong to
the lowly enviro class 3. ... Then they get mad and promptly and
predictably do turn against me.... as if it was me that caused them
to have turned into little green idiots.... AHAHAHAHA... Worse,
even more humiliated and irate do they get when they realize
that they've ****ed themselves, and that I am laughing at them.
>
== Environmentalism is nothing but green pornography,
== pimped by green orgs like NRDC, Sierra club, etc.,
== whored and hookered by green bureaucrats from EPA down,
== johned, pole- and lapdanced by the hordes of little green idiots
== and paid for by extorting the money from hardworking taxpayers.
==
== Pure politics is driving dozens of public health issues, notably
== global warming, tobacco and other green ****. Great lies in
== service for/of a "noble cause" do trump now truth & fact.
=
== Enviros use the same great lies of yore. Only the color changed.
== (A) Environmentalism is Communism in Green...
== (B) Environmentalism is Nazism in Green...
== (C) Environmentalism makes the Poor poorer and the Rich richer.
=
Modern, attributal definitions of enviro classifications:
========= enviro Class (1) --- the Green ****(s):
....are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize,
institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the
enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in
HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!
========= enviro Class (2) -- the Green turd(s):
.... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from
the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly.
========= enviro Class (3) -- the Little green idiot(s):
... are the unpaid, well-meaning ones who think they do
something for the "environment", when in fact they are only
the enablers and facilitators for (2) who are harvesting the
green $$$ that (1) has extorted.
>
Are you happy now, Bostwick?... or do I need to administer
to you with more of such therapy ... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...
ahahaha... ahahanson

> "JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's hands-free
>> kit. I used neat propanol and, separately, dilute benzalkonium
>> chloride.
>>
>> I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!
>> Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?


On Mon 05 Dec 2005 16:12:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What was the BAC diluted IN? If water, then it is not the
> cause.
> The propanol can remove surface oils, etc, which might
> make the lead a little harder.

The benzalkonium chloride was diluted in water. Probably 1 to 10 or
so. It is a mild detergent but maybe the propanol removed oils which
were not just on the surface.

On Mon 05 Dec 2005 16:26:02, hanson <[email protected]> wrote:

> "JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's
>> hands-free kit. I used neat propanol and, separately,
>> dilute benzalkonium chloride.
>> I notice that the plastic on the lead is now quite stiff!
>> Which of my cleaning compounds would have cause this?
>> JS
>> DETAILS: my hands free is a genuine Nokia part.
>> http://www.cellular-battery.com/nokia/hdc5/hdc5-3.jpg
>> I can't tell you what plastic is used for the lead but I think
>> someone could make a good guess.
>>
> [hanson]
> That's a common problem, but these items are not formulated
> to last. They have to be degradable (Thank the green ****s for
> that.) So, your problem may have occurred even without your
> cleaning. -- Your n-C3H7OH (or IPA) may have leached out the
> plasticizers if the matrix was PVC. However there are so many,
> many soft/pliable plastics formulations [1] on the market it
could
> be almost anything: ABS, Urethanes, etc.
> Check google for [1] or e-mail Nokia's customer service with
your
> issue. They might send you a new one for free. Good luck.
> hanson


Thanks for the info. I like the idea of going back to Nokia as
all i tried to do was clean the thing!

In article <Y92lf.8419$wF.7043@trnddc08>, "hanson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"David Bostwick" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:[email protected]...

[...]

>[David Bostwick]
>> What, no insane laughter? You're slipping.
>>
>[hanson]
>ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahaha.... Does that placate your yearnings?
>But if you have issues or an attitude problem over or with what I have

[...]

Sorry, folks. I forgot for a moment that hanson's fixation doesn't include an
allowance for satire.

"David Bostwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <Y92lf.8419$wF.7043@trnddc08>, "hanson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>"David Bostwick" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>message news:[email protected]...
>
>>[David Bostwick]
>>> What, no insane laughter? You're slipping. [1]
>>>
>>[hanson]
>>ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahaha.... Does that placate your yearnings?
>>But if you have issues or an attitude problem over or with that...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.c...a80ab73f4f5af6
> [...]
>
[David Bostwick]
> Sorry, folks. I forgot for a moment that hanson's fixation
> doesn't include an allowance for satire.
>
[hanson]
ahahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA... AHAHAHAHA....
Why are you apologizing to "folks" now ?... What did YOU do to
them?... ahaha... They are ROTFLTAO over you, David...
Remember [1], Dave... be careful what you wish for... ahahaha...
>> Are you happy now, Bostwick?... or do I need to administer
>> to you with more of such therapy ... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Thanks for the laughs, David.... ahahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahanson

JS wrote:
> I disinfected the lead and microphone on my cellphone's hands-free
> kit. I used neat propanol and, separately, dilute benzalkonium
> chloride.

There is no need to obsess about germs to that extreme. Neat organic
solvents are just not appropriate for cleaning household items. It is
most likely the propanol leached the plasticizers out of the thing. In
fact I can't think of any good reason to use solvent or super strong
disinfectants on that. Cleansing wipes you can buy at a grocery store
should have been all you need.
Richard