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Old 01-08-2006, 05:01 PM #1
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Bus Cell Nazis


Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up. Once I noticed my folks
oldest siblings would somehow shut off their hearing when they were
reading; So I asked my very first college professor, who happened to
be from Calcutta: He told me his hearing would totally shut off on the
bus as he got absorbed by what he was reading. When I first got a
celfon in 1990 (a Mitsubishi "brick phone") I found myself getting
angrily stared at on the bus whenever I made a call. Eventually, that
was one reason that from 1993-99, I avoided carrying a celfon. A bus
or train is the best possible time to use a celfon - to take advantage
of downtime. Ok, in 1991 already, I saw first hand how in Japan celfon
call were taken in the space between cars on a train as a sign of
courtesy. But I have to take objection to the thin-skinedness
regarding people talking on the phone. I mean folks talk on the bus
all the time; why is a celfon different. It isn't. This is really
ridiculous.



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Old 01-08-2006, 05:29 PM #2
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
> tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
> folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up. Once I noticed my folks
> oldest siblings would somehow shut off their hearing when they were
> reading; So I asked my very first college professor, who happened to
> be from Calcutta: He told me his hearing would totally shut off on the
> bus as he got absorbed by what he was reading. When I first got a
> celfon in 1990 (a Mitsubishi "brick phone") I found myself getting
> angrily stared at on the bus whenever I made a call. Eventually, that
> was one reason that from 1993-99, I avoided carrying a celfon. A bus
> or train is the best possible time to use a celfon - to take advantage
> of downtime. Ok, in 1991 already, I saw first hand how in Japan celfon
> call were taken in the space between cars on a train as a sign of
> courtesy. But I have to take objection to the thin-skinedness
> regarding people talking on the phone. I mean folks talk on the bus
> all the time; why is a celfon different. It isn't. This is really
> ridiculous.
>
>
>
> - = -
> Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
> BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
> Pataki+JebBush in 2008!
>

I've never seen this happen (so far anyway), I don't have a cell at this
time and yes sometimes I do get a bit pissed with others.
In any case when I do get a cell again its just going to be too DAMN
bad for them. What really got me pissed last spring a woman on the
platform didn't wish to speak to the person calling and so she
let it ring and ring. So I told her "Hey lady either answer it or turn
the god damn thing off"
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Old 01-08-2006, 05:39 PM #3
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


Notan wrote:

> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>
>> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
>>tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
>>folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up. Once I noticed my folks
>>oldest siblings would somehow shut off their hearing when they were
>>reading; So I asked my very first college professor, who happened to
>>be from Calcutta: He told me his hearing would totally shut off on the
>>bus as he got absorbed by what he was reading. When I first got a
>>celfon in 1990 (a Mitsubishi "brick phone") I found myself getting
>>angrily stared at on the bus whenever I made a call. Eventually, that
>>was one reason that from 1993-99, I avoided carrying a celfon. A bus
>>or train is the best possible time to use a celfon - to take advantage
>>of downtime. Ok, in 1991 already, I saw first hand how in Japan celfon
>>call were taken in the space between cars on a train as a sign of
>>courtesy. But I have to take objection to the thin-skinedness
>>regarding people talking on the phone. I mean folks talk on the bus
>>all the time; why is a celfon different. It isn't. This is really
>>ridiculous.

>
>
> I doubt anyone objects to conversations at normal volume... It's when
> people start to yell, whether it's on the phone or not, that it becomes
> an irritant to others.
>
> Notan



I disagree for some its an "irritant" period. Sad to say.
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Old 01-08-2006, 05:46 PM #4
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:39:21 -0500, Vince wrote:

>I disagree for some its an "irritant" period. Sad to say.


If you object to having your privacy violated by government or
private-sector agents or "just anybody" intercepting (a technical
term meaning "listening in"), don't carry on conversations in
public.

Using a cell-phone on a train or bus or in a shopping mall is as
public as it gets.

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Phil Kane -- Beaverton, Oregon
PNW Milepost 754 -- Tillamook District



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Old 01-08-2006, 06:53 PM #5
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


Phil Kane wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:39:21 -0500, Vince wrote:
>
>
>>I disagree for some its an "irritant" period. Sad to say.

>
>
> If you object to having your privacy violated by government or
> private-sector agents or "just anybody" intercepting (a technical
> term meaning "listening in"), don't carry on conversations in
> public.
>
> Using a cell-phone on a train or bus or in a shopping mall is as
> public as it gets.
>
> --
> ===> Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Please <===
>
> Phil Kane -- Beaverton, Oregon
> PNW Milepost 754 -- Tillamook District
>
>
>

Pay attention I meant its an irritant for others.......
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:15 PM #6
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Bus Fart Nazis (Re: Bus Cell Nazis)


I totally agree. The same thing happens whenever I fart on a bus.

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>
> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
> tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
> folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up. Once I noticed my folks
> oldest siblings would somehow shut off their hearing when they were
> reading; So I asked my very first college professor, who happened to
> be from Calcutta: He told me his hearing would totally shut off on the
> bus as he got absorbed by what he was reading. When I first got a
> celfon in 1990 (a Mitsubishi "brick phone") I found myself getting
> angrily stared at on the bus whenever I made a call. Eventually, that
> was one reason that from 1993-99, I avoided carrying a celfon. A bus
> or train is the best possible time to use a celfon - to take advantage
> of downtime. Ok, in 1991 already, I saw first hand how in Japan celfon
> call were taken in the space between cars on a train as a sign of
> courtesy. But I have to take objection to the thin-skinedness
> regarding people talking on the phone. I mean folks talk on the bus
> all the time; why is a celfon different. It isn't. This is really
> ridiculous.
>
> - = -
> Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
> BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
> Pataki+JebBush in 2008!

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Old 01-09-2006, 01:01 AM #7
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Yeah, well there are some people who would jump at any opportunity
to have a hissy-fit. That's kinda how bureaucratic inconsistencies get
layered ad infinitum. It's time we had hissy-fits at the hissy-fits
instead of just cowering to them.


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Old 01-09-2006, 02:54 AM #8
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, at 23:01:20 [GMT +0000 (UTC)] (10:01:20 Monday, 9
January 2006 where I live) "vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com" wrote:

> I saw first hand how in Japan celfon call were taken in the space between
> cars on a train as a sign of courtesy.


Try the underground in Hong Kong.

If you are not talking on a hand phone, you are the odd one out!

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Old 01-09-2006, 09:47 AM #9
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


I can't remember where I read this, but apparently the reason some
people can't stand being around cell phone users is they can't help but
hear your half of the conversation but don't hear the other half. This
causes a discordant brain signal not unlike hearing a schizophrenic
play a piano.

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
> tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
> folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up. Once I noticed my folks
> oldest siblings would somehow shut off their hearing when they were
> reading; So I asked my very first college professor, who happened to
> be from Calcutta: He told me his hearing would totally shut off on the
> bus as he got absorbed by what he was reading. When I first got a
> celfon in 1990 (a Mitsubishi "brick phone") I found myself getting
> angrily stared at on the bus whenever I made a call. Eventually, that
> was one reason that from 1993-99, I avoided carrying a celfon. A bus
> or train is the best possible time to use a celfon - to take advantage
> of downtime. Ok, in 1991 already, I saw first hand how in Japan celfon
> call were taken in the space between cars on a train as a sign of
> courtesy. But I have to take objection to the thin-skinedness
> regarding people talking on the phone. I mean folks talk on the bus
> all the time; why is a celfon different. It isn't. This is really
> ridiculous.
>
>
>
> - = -
> Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
> BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
> Pataki+JebBush in 2008!


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Old 01-09-2006, 02:03 PM #10
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis



John Charles Wilson wrote:
> I can't remember where I read this, but apparently the reason some
> people can't stand being around cell phone users is they can't help but
> hear your half of the conversation but don't hear the other half. This
> causes a discordant brain signal not unlike hearing a schizophrenic
> play a piano.


This makes a lot of sense. I have had the impression that cell phone
users were speaking more clearly or slightly more loudly than the
equivalent face-to-face conversation but it may be the lack of
response, particualarly when intonation would imply a conversation as
opposed to someone doing a monologue.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

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Old 01-10-2006, 06:44 AM #11
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC),
> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>
> > Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
> >tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
> >folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up.

>
> **** 'em.
>
> I ride a buses and trains all the time, and I always have my MP3
> player's earphones in my ears - people talk on their cell phones all
> the time and I don't even hear them, much less care.


Listening devices that completely mask all ambient noise are very
dangerous.
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net
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Old 01-10-2006, 01:55 PM #12
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC),
>>vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
>>>tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
>>>folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up.

>>
>>**** 'em.
>>
>>I ride a buses and trains all the time, and I always have my MP3
>>player's earphones in my ears - people talk on their cell phones all
>>the time and I don't even hear them, much less care.

>
>
> Listening devices that completely mask all ambient noise are very
> dangerous.



Thats right theres been a number of stories on the news about such devices.
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:10 PM #13
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC),
>>vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
>>>tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
>>>folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up.

>>
>>**** 'em.
>>
>>I ride a buses and trains all the time, and I always have my MP3
>>player's earphones in my ears - people talk on their cell phones all
>>the time and I don't even hear them, much less care.

>
>
> Listening devices that completely mask all ambient noise are very
> dangerous.


Well, they would be, if they existed.

Best Regards,


DAve

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Old 01-10-2006, 02:29 PM #14
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


DaveW wrote:
>
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC),
> >>vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
> >>>tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
> >>>folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up.
> >>
> >>**** 'em.
> >>
> >>I ride a buses and trains all the time, and I always have my MP3
> >>player's earphones in my ears - people talk on their cell phones all
> >>the time and I don't even hear them, much less care.

> >
> >
> > Listening devices that completely mask all ambient noise are very
> > dangerous.

>
> Well, they would be, if they existed.


OP said as much.

And what about those new Bose sound-canceling headphones?
--
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:32 PM #15
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Re: Bus Cell Nazis


DaveW wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
>> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC),
>>> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Once I came across a grade-school classmate on the bus and we were
>>>> tlaking at high speed, making up for decades; Well, wuddnya know it,
>>>> folks on the bus kept telling us to shut up.
>>>
>>>
>>> **** 'em.
>>>
>>> I ride a buses and trains all the time, and I always have my MP3
>>> player's earphones in my ears - people talk on their cell phones all
>>> the time and I don't even hear them, much less care.

>>
>>
>>
>> Listening devices that completely mask all ambient noise are very
>> dangerous.

>
>
> Well, they would be, if they existed.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> DAve
>

Well I'll tell you I would love such a device that could screen-out
my next door neighbor's music and my other next door neighbor's dropping
heavy objects and her loud brat.
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