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  1. #31
    RNess
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    You do understand that a GPS is a receiver....
    and are very sensitive.

    A phone is a 'two way' device... big difference!!


    "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Larry wrote:
    >> George <[email protected]> wrote in news:6_
    >> [email protected]:
    >>
    >>> Since the satelites have to be in low earth orbit to work with handheld devices it takes a number of satellites to
    >>> build a system. Iridium has *66* satellites + spares in its system. Also consider that they need to be periodically
    >>> replaced.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Satphones, just like GPS going the other way, don't work inside. That'll protect cellular if they provide that
    >> service. Amazingly, I haven't seen the greenies go ballistic on human irradiation by much-more-powerful satphones.
    >> 200mw isn't gonna excite even the closest satellite 200 miles away....ever.
    >>

    > My Garmin Nuvi GPS Works inside my home.
    >






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  2. #32
    Kevin Weaver
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    RNess wrote:
    > You do understand that a GPS is a receiver....
    > and are very sensitive.
    >
    > A phone is a 'two way' device... big difference!!
    >
    >
    > "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >> Larry wrote:
    >>> George <[email protected]> wrote in news:6_
    >>> [email protected]:
    >>>
    >>>> Since the satelites have to be in low earth orbit to work with handheld devices it takes a number of satellites to
    >>>> build a system. Iridium has *66* satellites + spares in its system. Also consider that they need to be periodically
    >>>> replaced.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Satphones, just like GPS going the other way, don't work inside. That'll protect cellular if they provide that
    >>> service. Amazingly, I haven't seen the greenies go ballistic on human irradiation by much-more-powerful satphones.
    >>> 200mw isn't gonna excite even the closest satellite 200 miles away....ever.
    >>>

    >> My Garmin Nuvi GPS Works inside my home.
    >>

    >
    >

    Larry said that GPS does not work inside. I just said that mine does.
    Nothing more, Nothing less.



  3. #33
    Larry
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Kevin Weaver <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > My Garmin Nuvi GPS Works inside my home.
    >
    >


    Your home is a transparent RF structure, probably wood? That would work if
    the bird were close enough overhead and the house wasn't in the thick
    woods. Pine needles, as most rural cellular customers know, act like
    perfect little microwave dummy loads, absorbing any RF that strays by them.
    Stand in an open field near a woods and read your signal meter. Walk into
    the deep woods and check it. Sap eats RF. Your roof isn't the steel
    shield covering WalMart or Best Buy, rendering the satphone, satellite
    radios and GPS useless under its shadow.

    Oh, sorry. There goes Larry with his RF-based fantasies again....(c;




  4. #34
    Larry
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Kevin Weaver <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Larry said that GPS does not work inside. I just said that mine does.
    > Nothing more, Nothing less.
    >
    >


    I can get a GPS fix inside some steel-roofed places like restaurants, where
    it shouldn't work. I think the GPS sees some reflections from the cars and
    other metal objects you can see through the windows out in the parking
    lots. That makes sense at 2400 Mhz as the wave is so short, just a few
    inches. The fix probably sucks after the reflecting. GPS is made to be
    direct.




  5. #35
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:

    >
    > Again, I don't know that all universities are completely covered with
    > wireless access. Besides, kids are in college to learn, not gab.


    And the universities that ARE blanketed by WiFi coverage often restrict
    them to people affiliated WITH the university. The college local to me
    has plenty of WiFi, but you can't get on it unless you have a university
    (staff, faculty or student) ID and password. You must log in before it
    takes you anywhere BUT that login page.

    Oh, and it's not free. Students at most colleges typically pay a
    "computer services fee" of some sort. Most of the time it's itemized on
    their term bills. That fee covers the semester's use of computer labs,
    campus wired internet services, off-campus dialup lines (for those
    colleges who still have such a beast) and WiFi.

    And, even if he does have such a username and password, does that Skype
    phone have a built in display screen and password sot hat one CAN log in
    when it's required? Probably not.

    Larry seems to think that WiFi hotspots are springing up all over the
    place and that internet service is now as abundant as water. Maybe in
    his slice of the boonies, there's a lot of stupid people with open,
    unsecured hotspots. That's not the case in more educated areas of the
    US. There is still no such thing as a free lunch, and many
    establishments DO charge or restrict their wifi in one way or another.

    And while Larry doesn't have any scruples about using any hotspot that's
    open to him, it's still unethical (and in some cases, it's being
    codified as illegal) to do so unless the service is specifically
    advertised as open and free for anyone to use. Hell, if I knew Larry
    lived near my neighborhood, I'd warn people to keep their doors and
    windows locked (in case Larry thinks it's okay to walk into unlocked
    houses and take the furniture), and to make sure he's not splicing into
    their cable, either (after all, it's just sitting there and paid for,
    unwatched when no one is home or when everyone is sleeping... right?).

    Don't get me wrong, I use Skype myself occasionally, and I think it's a
    an interesting idea. But it's NOT my primary means of being in touch,
    and probably never will be. I haven't given up my cellphone yet, and
    doubt I will for the forseeable future. Unlike Larry, I'm not willing
    to entrust my telephone service to the goodwill (or ignorance) of
    others. And the fact that Skype has to give away their service through
    the end of the year just to attract customers - AND that no competitors
    have gone out of business over it - is very telling.


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    Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.



  6. #36
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Steve Sobol wrote:


    > McDonalds uses WayPort. Starbucks uses T-Mobile Hotspot. Barnes & Noble uses SBC.


    And this is the important part... ALL of them charge for access. WiFi
    isn't always free.




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  7. #37
    Larry
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Don't get me wrong


    My, my, aren't we negative....



  8. #38
    Larry
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > WiFi
    > isn't always free.
    >


    No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;




  9. #39
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Larry wrote:
    > Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> WiFi
    >> isn't always free.
    >>

    >
    > No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;


    And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!



    --
    Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
    Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

    It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.



  10. #40
    Peter Pan
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Steve Sobol wrote:
    > Larry wrote:
    >> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> news:[email protected]:
    >>
    >>> WiFi
    >>> isn't always free.
    >>>

    >>
    >> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;

    >
    > And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!


    You mean all those posts about calling 911 from a bag phone for free were
    LIES!?!?!?!??! Oh no!!!!!!!





  11. #41
    DevilsPGD
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    In message <[email protected]> "Peter Pan"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Steve Sobol wrote:
    >> Larry wrote:
    >>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>> news:[email protected]:
    >>>
    >>>> WiFi
    >>>> isn't always free.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;

    >>
    >> And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!

    >
    >You mean all those posts about calling 911 from a bag phone for free were
    >LIES!?!?!?!??! Oh no!!!!!!!
    >


    Hence the "Often" and "Not always" qualifiers.

    Show of hands, how many here call 911 on a regular basis? How many call
    other numbers?

    --
    In Jolt We Trust



  12. #42
    Peter Pan
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    DevilsPGD wrote:
    > In message <[email protected]> "Peter Pan"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Steve Sobol wrote:
    >>> Larry wrote:
    >>>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>>> news:[email protected]:
    >>>>
    >>>>> WiFi
    >>>>> isn't always free.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;
    >>>
    >>> And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!

    >>
    >> You mean all those posts about calling 911 from a bag phone for free
    >> were LIES!?!?!?!??! Oh no!!!!!!!
    >>

    >
    > Hence the "Often" and "Not always" qualifiers.
    >
    > Show of hands, how many here call 911 on a regular basis? How many
    > call other numbers?


    You may notice that the statement was "No, but cellular is NEVER
    free....(c;"... NO qualifiers, just an absolute NEVER statement (the
    qualifier was on the WiFi statement, NOT on the cellular statement)
    And come to think of it, how bout a show of hands, how many use their
    internet phone to call 911? And how many have bag phones on their WiFi?





  13. #43

    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Just found this info about Netgear's new Skype DIRECT phone....
    >Skype internal, wifi transceiver, no computer necessary....


    Could a person do same thing with their Pocket PC?

    Use it as a portable Skype phone like unit above?



  14. #44
    Larry
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in news:e9pfib$1dg$1
    @jamiebaillie.com:

    > And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!
    >
    >


    Sure beats 700 minutes for $60 a month!

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    When you come up to the checkout, ask someone if they saw
    the INS agents carrying off 3 people from the store...
    See how many illegals you can get to abandon their carts...
    moving YOU up in line....(c;



  15. #45
    Larry
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    Re: Your next phone a Netgear?

    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > NO qualifiers


    Geez, we ARE draggin' the bottom of the ditch, now....



    --
    When you come up to the checkout, ask someone if they saw
    the INS agents carrying off 3 people from the store...
    See how many illegals you can get to abandon their carts...
    moving YOU up in line....(c;



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