Kids cellphone bills driving you to poorhouse?
This may be your answer...
Skype Out after Jan 1, 2007 is 7 hours for $10...period.
2.1 US cents per minute (0.017 Euro) to most developed countries.
Free US/Canada until 2007 No monthly charges, taxes, fees, and....
No funny business.
Skype In so phones can call in is $38/YEAR! Comes with call forwarding,
free voicemail, great features. Offline or out of range of a wifi? Call
forward to your cellphone. Works great. $38/YEAR....no other charges, no
cellphone funny business. Forwarded calls from my Skype In number to the
Alltel V60i work great! Even Skype-to-Skype, computer to computer calls,
get forwarded!
Skype-to-Skype calls, from this new phone hooked to any wifi, are FREE...
Anywhere on the planet! The kids can talk forever!
Unlimited Nights and Weekends my ass.....(c;
Nice day in Guam. Just got off Skype with a Navy friend.....free.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> Just found this info about Netgear's new Skype DIRECT phone....
> Skype internal, wifi transceiver, no computer necessary....
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9p2uy
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c83cx
>
> Kids cellphone bills driving you to poorhouse?
> This may be your answer...
> Skype Out after Jan 1, 2007 is 7 hours for $10...period.
> 2.1 US cents per minute (0.017 Euro) to most developed countries.
> Free US/Canada until 2007 No monthly charges, taxes, fees, and....
> No funny business.
>
> Skype In so phones can call in is $38/YEAR! Comes with call forwarding,
> free voicemail, great features. Offline or out of range of a wifi? Call
> forward to your cellphone. Works great. $38/YEAR....no other charges, no
> cellphone funny business. Forwarded calls from my Skype In number to the
> Alltel V60i work great! Even Skype-to-Skype, computer to computer calls,
> get forwarded!
>
> Skype-to-Skype calls, from this new phone hooked to any wifi, are FREE...
> Anywhere on the planet! The kids can talk forever!
>
> Unlimited Nights and Weekends my ass.....(c;
> Nice day in Guam. Just got off Skype with a Navy friend.....free.
Only problem is you need an internet connection. Great at home or at a
hotspot, but not so hot otherwise.
"Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
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> Only problem is you need an internet connection. Great at home or at a
> hotspot, but not so hot otherwise.
>
>
I have Skype In forwarding to my cellphone any Skype calls, including
Skype-to-Skype across the planet for those periods in between wifi spots.
But, excluding the travel where the cellphone is (still) king, the Skype
Phone beats them all at home, work, a hotel, an airport just before a
flight, many cities that have free wifi now, many restaurants, even
McDonald's!
A kid at university has wifi for Skype about anywhere on the campus, too,
saving Dad thousands in cellphone bills.....Precharged like a prepaid
cellphone on outgoing calls to telephones, there are no surprises like when
those $800 cellphone bills come rolling in. After the free 2006 promo, 7
hours on Skype Out to a US/Canadian/European/Japanese and many other
landline phones is $10, flat. No monthly fees, no tax, no funny business.
If the kid calls his computer-savvy friends on Skype-to-Skype, dad's cost
is ZERO!
There's LOTS of applications Skype and the other VoIP carriers are going to
bust wide open. It will be interesting to see if the landline and
cellphone monopolies can put a stop to it. Skype is in Luxembourg for a
reason...(c;
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> news:yAKdnWrjyvYlnCbZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> Only problem is you need an internet connection. Great at home or at a
>> hotspot, but not so hot otherwise. >>
>>
>
> I have Skype In forwarding to my cellphone any Skype calls, including
> Skype-to-Skype across the planet for those periods in between wifi spots.
Larry, this sounds like a fun science experiment, but it's totally
impractical. Plus most Americans don't have a whole lot of friends overseas,
or on Skype.
> But, excluding the travel where the cellphone is (still) king, the Skype
> Phone beats them all at home, work, a hotel, an airport just before a
> flight, many cities that have free wifi now, many restaurants, even
> McDonald's!
Not all these places have hotspots. You have to pay to use McDonald's. $3
for 2 hours. That makes Verizon sound cheap.
> A kid at university has wifi for Skype about anywhere on the campus, too,
> saving Dad thousands in cellphone bills.....Precharged like a prepaid
> cellphone on outgoing calls to telephones, there are no surprises like
> when
> those $800 cellphone bills come rolling in. After the free 2006 promo, 7
> hours on Skype Out to a US/Canadian/European/Japanese and many other
> landline phones is $10, flat. No monthly fees, no tax, no funny business.
> If the kid calls his computer-savvy friends on Skype-to-Skype, dad's cost
> is ZERO!
Again, I don't know that all universities are completely covered with
wireless access. Besides, kids are in college to learn, not gab.
What is this infatuation with running one's mouth 24 hours a day?? Yikes.
> There's LOTS of applications Skype and the other VoIP carriers are going
> to
> bust wide open. It will be interesting to see if the landline and
> cellphone monopolies can put a stop to it. Skype is in Luxembourg for a
> reason...(c;
Here I agree with you. Eventually many of the services that wireless phone
companies block or hamstring will be available for the price of "minutes."
"Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
news:nUudnVyC_7AHGibZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> Here I agree with you. Eventually many of the services that wireless
> phone companies block or hamstring will be available for the price of
> "minutes."
>
>
I thought Skype was a toy, too, until I got my Swiss friend Werner on it
and we spread it to his friends back in Thun, CH. One of them called me on
Skype, today, while I was out working. Skype forwarded to my cellphone
from his internet connection. The call cost only minutes on the cellphone,
of course.
I didn't know McD wanted money to use their VoIP. Cancel that from my
post...(c; There are just TOO many wide open wifis to wardrive to actually
pay for it. I ate lunch at a marina deli, today, in the nice weather. The
marina had wifi and so did a bunch of nearby offices NetStumbler found
open....(c;
But, you know, arming a teen with a Skype Phone, especially the new direct-
to-wifi Skype phone from Netgear could sure reduce a lot of cellphone bills
across the planet....not a toy or "science project" at all!
> I thought Skype was a toy, too, until I got my Swiss friend Werner on it
> and we spread it to his friends back in Thun, CH. One of them called me on
> Skype, today, while I was out working. Skype forwarded to my cellphone
> from his internet connection. The call cost only minutes on the cellphone,
> of course.
Skype isn't a toy. VoIP in general is quite useful. Have you ever checked out http://www.asteriskpbx.com ? (I'm probably preaching to the choir here.)
> I didn't know McD wanted money to use their VoIP. Cancel that from my
> post...(c; There are just TOO many wide open wifis to wardrive to actually
> pay for it. I ate lunch at a marina deli, today, in the nice weather. The
> marina had wifi and so did a bunch of nearby offices NetStumbler found
> open....(c;
What is cool is that the bigger providers offer roaming now, so if you need
access somewhere where your hotspot company doesn't have it, you may still be
able to get it anyhow, without having to enter a credit card.
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
In article <e9hcte$2ku$1@jamiebaillie.com>,
Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
> What is cool is that the bigger providers offer roaming now, so if you need
> access somewhere where your hotspot company doesn't have it, you may still be
> able to get it anyhow, without having to enter a credit card.
I spend a lot of time in airports, so I'm giving Boingo a try for a
couple of months. $22 a month, and so far, it's worked in every airport
I've been in, save Cincinnati, which is a T-Mobile hotspot.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> news:nUudnVyC_7AHGibZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> Here I agree with you. Eventually many of the services that wireless
>> phone companies block or hamstring will be available for the price of
>> "minutes."
>>
>>
>
> I thought Skype was a toy, too, until I got my Swiss friend Werner on it
> and we spread it to his friends back in Thun, CH. One of them called me
> on
> Skype, today, while I was out working. Skype forwarded to my cellphone
> from his internet connection. The call cost only minutes on the
> cellphone,
> of course.
Skype is not a toy. I take a biweekly chess lesson from an Israeli player,
and we use skype to chat (while playing on an internet chess server). Skype
is wonderful, but it suffers from relative lack of coverage and the need to
be at a computer or within range of a wireless network. Yeah, you can talk
to someone in China for free if they're members of Skype, but you can't talk
to your next door neighbor unless you're both hooked up.
> I didn't know McD wanted money to use their VoIP. Cancel that from my
> post...(c; There are just TOO many wide open wifis to wardrive to
> actually
> pay for it. I ate lunch at a marina deli, today, in the nice weather.
> The
> marina had wifi and so did a bunch of nearby offices NetStumbler found
> open....(c;
>
> But, you know, arming a teen with a Skype Phone, especially the new
> direct-
> to-wifi Skype phone from Netgear could sure reduce a lot of cellphone
> bills
> across the planet....not a toy or "science project" at all!
I have 2 teenagers. One of them talks too goddamned much on her cell phone.
The "reduce cellphone bill" argument doesn't cut it with me. She has a
cellphone *exclusively* for my convenience, so I don't waste time waiting
for her when picking her up from her various activities. Of course she can
use it for fun, too. But if she goes over her minutes she gets a warning. If
she goes over again I run her phone over with my Camry.
Garner Miller wrote:
> In article <e9hcte$2ku$1@jamiebaillie.com>,
> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
>> What is cool is that the bigger providers offer roaming now, so if you need
>> access somewhere where your hotspot company doesn't have it, you may still be
>> able to get it anyhow, without having to enter a credit card.
>
> I spend a lot of time in airports, so I'm giving Boingo a try for a
> couple of months. $22 a month, and so far, it's worked in every airport
> I've been in, save Cincinnati, which is a T-Mobile hotspot.
As a T-Mobile cellular customer I get their Hotspot service -- well, I *can*
get it -- for $20/month instead of $30/month. I can roam on certain other
networks. One of them was the WiFi network at Minneapolis-St. Paul
International Airport, where I was stuck waiting for a plane for a few horus
last month. Roaming fees are generally either per day or per minute depending
on the agreement between your WiFiSP and the roaming provider. The cool thing
is that I can get those fees billed on my T-Mo bill instead of having to pay
with a credit card (although if I go somewhere on a regular basis and the
WiFiSP is someone other than T-Mo, it might make sense to give them money on
a regular basis too).
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
"Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
news:JPudndRtLdGe7iHZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> Skype is not a toy. I take a biweekly chess lesson from an Israeli
> player, and we use skype to chat (while playing on an internet chess
> server). Skype is wonderful, but it suffers from relative lack of
> coverage and the need to be at a computer or within range of a
> wireless network. Yeah, you can talk to someone in China for free if
> they're members of Skype, but you can't talk to your next door
> neighbor unless you're both hooked up.
>
You need to get Skype In, then your Israeli buddy can call your CELL for
free, or any other Skyper on the planet for that matter. You don't need
to be tied to the computer, which is the point of the new Netgear Skpye
Phone coming out. It doesn't need your computer at all. Forward Skype
In to your cell and the forwarding is automatic. You show up on your
contact list as "forwarding", a yellow instead of green icon, so they
know you're not on the computer and can make the decision to call or not.
Works great, here.
>
> I have 2 teenagers. One of them talks too goddamned much on her cell
> phone. The "reduce cellphone bill" argument doesn't cut it with me.
> She has a cellphone *exclusively* for my convenience, so I don't waste
> time waiting for her when picking her up from her various activities.
> Of course she can use it for fun, too. But if she goes over her
> minutes she gets a warning. If she goes over again I run her phone
> over with my Camry.
>
Hm...Alltel has a kiddie phone for her. It has 4 buttons on the front of
it YOU program for up to 4 numbers, ONLY. She can call any of the 4
numbers, but not the problem phone number that's making the trouble. Put
911 into one of them, your cell and home numbers....reducing the
cellphone calling to near zero. Let her call her friend on Skype-to-
Skype. They all have computers, right?...(c;
In message <JPudndRtLdGe7iHZUSdV9g@ptd.net> "Ange1o DePa1ma"
<angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
>Skype is not a toy. I take a biweekly chess lesson from an Israeli player,
>and we use skype to chat (while playing on an internet chess server). Skype
>is wonderful, but it suffers from relative lack of coverage and the need to
>be at a computer or within range of a wireless network. Yeah, you can talk
>to someone in China for free if they're members of Skype, but you can't talk
>to your next door neighbor unless you're both hooked up.
Skype-in and skype-out reduce the need for "both hooked up" -- This is
what changed Skype from a toy to being a real player in the VoIP market.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> news:JPudndRtLdGe7iHZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> Skype is not a toy. I take a biweekly chess lesson from an Israeli
>> player, and we use skype to chat (while playing on an internet chess
>> server). Skype is wonderful, but it suffers from relative lack of
>> coverage and the need to be at a computer or within range of a
>> wireless network. Yeah, you can talk to someone in China for free if
>> they're members of Skype, but you can't talk to your next door
>> neighbor unless you're both hooked up.
>>
> You need to get Skype In, then your Israeli buddy can call your CELL for
> free, or any other Skyper on the planet for that matter. You don't need
> to be tied to the computer, which is the point of the new Netgear Skpye
> Phone coming out. It doesn't need your computer at all. Forward Skype
> In to your cell and the forwarding is automatic. You show up on your
> contact list as "forwarding", a yellow instead of green icon, so they
> know you're not on the computer and can make the decision to call or not.
> Works great, here.
Wow! Can you provide a link that explains this? The phone, the plan, etc.
I'm definitely interested, although I probably wouldn't use it. I already
have Skype in and Skype out, just for emergencies when my Lingo service is
out. Plus my VOIP already gives me the countries I want for free. I really
don't make or receive too many non-business overseas calls. Plus I'd prefer
*not* to use my cell phone if at all possible -- I've lost enough brain
cells already.
>>
>> I have 2 teenagers. One of them talks too goddamned much on her cell
>> phone. The "reduce cellphone bill" argument doesn't cut it with me.
>> She has a cellphone *exclusively* for my convenience, so I don't waste
>> time waiting for her when picking her up from her various activities.
>> Of course she can use it for fun, too. But if she goes over her
>> minutes she gets a warning. If she goes over again I run her phone
>> over with my Camry.
>>
> Hm...Alltel has a kiddie phone for her. It has 4 buttons on the front of
> it YOU program for up to 4 numbers, ONLY. She can call any of the 4
> numbers, but not the problem phone number that's making the trouble. Put
> 911 into one of them, your cell and home numbers....reducing the
> cellphone calling to near zero. Let her call her friend on Skype-to-
> Skype. They all have computers, right?...(c;
Hey, I'm not Atilla the Hun I don't mind if she has fun with the phone,
she just can't go over about 400 minutes or so because we only have a 700
minute family plan. So far she understands that.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
> news:JPudndRtLdGe7iHZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> Skype is not a toy. I take a biweekly chess lesson from an Israeli
>> player, and we use skype to chat (while playing on an internet chess
>> server). Skype is wonderful, but it suffers from relative lack of
>> coverage and the need to be at a computer or within range of a
>> wireless network. Yeah, you can talk to someone in China for free if
>> they're members of Skype, but you can't talk to your next door
>> neighbor unless you're both hooked up.
>>
> You need to get Skype In, then your Israeli buddy can call your CELL for
> free, or any other Skyper on the planet for that matter. You don't need
> to be tied to the computer, which is the point of the new Netgear Skpye
> Phone coming out. It doesn't need your computer at all. Forward Skype
> In to your cell and the forwarding is automatic. You show up on your
> contact list as "forwarding", a yellow instead of green icon, so they
> know you're not on the computer and can make the decision to call or not.
> Works great, here.
>>
>> I have 2 teenagers. One of them talks too goddamned much on her cell
>> phone. The "reduce cellphone bill" argument doesn't cut it with me.
>> She has a cellphone *exclusively* for my convenience, so I don't waste
>> time waiting for her when picking her up from her various activities.
>> Of course she can use it for fun, too. But if she goes over her
>> minutes she gets a warning. If she goes over again I run her phone
>> over with my Camry.
>>
> Hm...Alltel has a kiddie phone for her. It has 4 buttons on the front of
> it YOU program for up to 4 numbers, ONLY. She can call any of the 4
> numbers, but not the problem phone number that's making the trouble. Put
> 911 into one of them, your cell and home numbers....reducing the
> cellphone calling to near zero. Let her call her friend on Skype-to-
> Skype. They all have computers, right?...(c;
Hold on just a second...are you telling me I can use this netgear phone to
forward calls from Skype, using Skype In, for *free* from Skype users and
for nominal $$ from non-Skypers? Can I use it to forward calls from my VOIP
as well? This is starting to get interesting. Can I buy 4 netgear phones,
get 4 Skype accounts, and replace my Verizon plan entirely???? This is
starting to get interesting.
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