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Old 10-04-2006, 08:37 AM #1
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Asterisk support and consulting



Dear Sirs,

VoIP Experts has a team of highly qualified Asterisk's engineers who
have a diverse experience by working with it. We offer you
comprehensive support of Asterisk wich includes configuration,
troubleshooting, integrating and programming of Asterisk as well as its
designinig, writing of new modules, maintenance support and Asterisk
consulting.

We have thorough knowledge of Asterisk features including

voicemail
music on hold
fax over e-mail
call queuing
call waiting
dial by name
IVR
Text-to speech
trunking
and others.

Also we can customize Asterisk exactly to your needs.
We will be glad to discuss all the details about your certain project
on Asterisk and fulfill it in a timely and cost effective manner.

If you are seeking for a seriuos Asterisk support contact us at
sales@voip-experts.com




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Old 10-04-2006, 09:34 AM #2
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:37:11 +0000, VOIPExperts
<VOIPExperts.2f5osj@cellbanter.com> wrote:

>
>Dear Sirs,
>
>VoIP Experts has a team of highly qualified Asterisk's engineers who
>have a diverse experience by working with it. We offer you
>comprehensive support of Asterisk wich includes configuration,
>troubleshooting, integrating and programming of Asterisk as well as its
>designinig, writing of new modules, maintenance support and Asterisk
>consulting.


SPAM FODDER:

sales@voip-experts.com

What does this have to do with ALT.CELLULAR??
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Old 10-04-2006, 01:50 PM #3
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VOIPExperts <VOIPExperts.2f5osj@cellbanter.com> wrote in
news:VOIPExperts.2f5osj@cellbanter.com:

> If you are seeking for a seriuos Asterisk support contact us at
> sales@voip-experts.com
>
>


Skype us....let's talk!.....(c;



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Old 10-04-2006, 03:30 PM #4
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In article <Xns985297133D97Cnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
> VOIPExperts <VOIPExperts.2f5osj@cellbanter.com> wrote in
> news:VOIPExperts.2f5osj@cellbanter.com:
>
>> If you are seeking for a seriuos Asterisk support contact us at
>> sales@voip-experts.com
>>
>>

>
> Skype us....let's talk!.....(c;


Hm, usually you complain about spammers...


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Old 10-04-2006, 07:36 PM #5
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"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
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> Hm, usually you complain about spammers...
>
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl **
> Linux/*BSD/Windows Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
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>


For a professional geek you sure don't get it, do you.....

Duhh.....



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Old 10-04-2006, 10:05 PM #6
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Re: Asterisk support and consulting


In article <Xns9852D1A237D19noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:

> For a professional geek you sure don't get it, do you.....


Sure I do. I recently sold the boss on an Asterisk PBX system. I set up the
software; the IP phones and line card just arrived and I'll probably be
installing them this week. With a bunch of people in different places, VoIP
is quite attractive for us. And Asterisk kicks major ass.

We "re-purposed" an old server, put Trixbox on it... CentOS 4.5 Linux,
Asterisk, several Asterisk add-ons and the open source version of SugarCRM.

Trixbox rocks, Asterisk rocks, VoIP in general rocks.

> Duhh.....


Nah. Pretty simple. There's nothing on-topic about a VoIP/Asterisk post in
the cell newsgroups, any more than Skype is on topic. But I guess off-topic
crap is okay as long as it's about a topic you like to talk about, eh?


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Old 10-04-2006, 10:58 PM #7
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"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnei8tkh.66g.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> Nah. Pretty simple. There's nothing on-topic about a VoIP/Asterisk
> post in the cell newsgroups, any more than Skype is on topic. But I
> guess off-topic crap is okay as long as it's about a topic you like to
> talk about, eh?
>
>


Actually, I think VoIP, as wireless opportunities expand and Wimax
becomes a reality, IS quite on topic.....as an alternative to the CTIA's
****ty attitude and treatment of those of us paying the freight all these
years...

I'm waiting for the next generation of direct-to-wifi Skype phones to fix
the stupidity of what they tried to market without logon webpages,
rendering them useless in a lot of places.

VoIP is still out-of-place in a moving vehicle, but that will fix itself
as wifi begins to handoff in cellular fashion in the near future. At
home, at work or around most wifi hotspots, Skype is SUPERIOR to
cellular/PCS/Iden because you no longer have to stand up on a chair on
the front porch to get the damned thing to attach itself to a usable
signal that doesn't drop of doesn't dial in the first place. In those
conditions, at my home as an example, Skype connectivity through a
LinkSys CIT200 1900 Mhz base station on top of my computer works anywhere
within about 250', not dropping calls and with great clarity.....not to
mention for free until January, here in the States. I sat out on the
seawall overlooking the Ashley River this morning talking to a friend in
Bahrain for free to his computer.

I think alternatives to the old monopoly CTIA is quite relevant, indeed.



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Old 10-05-2006, 12:20 AM #8
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In article <Xns9852F41916B58noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:

> Actually, I think VoIP, as wireless opportunities expand and Wimax
> becomes a reality, IS quite on topic.....as an alternative to the CTIA's
> ****ty attitude and treatment of those of us paying the freight all these
> years...


Come on. You like to crow about Skype. Which is fine, but your posts bear
no relevance whatsoever to cellular, no matter how you spin it.

> VoIP is still out-of-place in a moving vehicle, but that will fix itself
> as wifi begins to handoff in cellular fashion in the near future.


> I think alternatives to the old monopoly CTIA is quite relevant, indeed.


Personally, Mr. Hey-Sobol-You're-A-Verizon-Company-Shill, I think you're
just spamming for Skype.


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Old 10-05-2006, 04:07 AM #9
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At 04 Oct 2006 23:58:50 -0400 Larry wrote:
> At
> home, at work or around most wifi hotspots, Skype is SUPERIOR to
> cellular/PCS/Iden because you no longer have to stand up on a chair on
> the front porch to get the damned thing to attach itself to a usable
> signal that doesn't drop of doesn't dial in the first place.


Sounds like you need to change cell carriers!

I generally get better sound quality from my GSM phone than with Skype.

> In those
> conditions, at my home as an example, Skype connectivity through a
> LinkSys CIT200 1900 Mhz base station on top of my computer works

anywhere
> within about 250', not dropping calls and with great clarity.....not to
> mention for free until January, here in the States.


It would have to be free to put up with the latency and dropouts. Let's
face it- the only reason Skype is popular is that there's no additional
equipment to buy to make it work.

> I sat out on the
> seawall overlooking the Ashley River this morning talking to a friend

in
> Bahrain for free to his computer.


Wow... how "mobile".

Honestly, other than as a proof-of-concept, I've never understood the big
deal about Skype. It's the odd-man out in the Voip world with it's
proprietary codecs and non-standard hardware. They are to Voip what AOL
was to ISPs! Plenty of low-cost Voip products (like Stanaphone, for
example) exist that not only work on a PC via softphone software, but on
_standard_ SIP hardware as well, so, if you want a high-latency, echoey,
low-cost telephone connection, you don't even have to turn on your PC!
I'll admit, however, it's not as cool to tell someone to "Stana me!"

> I think alternatives to the old monopoly CTIA is quite relevant, indeed.


Quasi-relevant WHEN they start actually making a difference. If, for
example, a cell carrier announced they were dropping international LD
rates to compete with Skype, THAT would be relevant...

Voip is still in it's infancy. I'm sure, as you say, when wireless
broadband is more ubiquitous, Voip will start to give cellular a run for
it's money, which will be a good thing because the added competition will
help keep cellular rates in check, much like competition from cellular
has brought down the cost of landline long-distance.

But are we all gong to be driving around with wireless Voip-only handsets
in the next five, or even ten years? Not a chance.



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Old 10-05-2006, 06:58 AM #10
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"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnei95ge.ddr.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> Personally, Mr. Hey-Sobol-You're-A-Verizon-Company-Shill, I think you're
> just spamming for Skype.
>
>


Absolutely. My $10 balance is down to $9.88 and I'm trying to get them to
give me free calls to other US phones....



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Old 10-05-2006, 07:01 AM #11
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:4524c386$0$19697
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> Sounds like you need to change cell carriers!
>
> I generally get better sound quality from my GSM phone than with Skype.
>
>


No, sounds like YOU need to change ISPs with better bandwidth. Skype's
sample rate is much higher than any cellphone's. It's why Skype is only
recommended for broadband customers.

Maybe you need better earphones or speakers, though....



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Old 10-05-2006, 10:31 AM #12
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At 05 Oct 2006 08:01:22 -0400 Larry wrote:

> > Sounds like you need to change cell carriers!
> >
> > I generally get better sound quality from my GSM phone than with Skype.


>
> No, sounds like YOU need to change ISPs with better bandwidth.


If I need more than 384k up/ 1.5m down DSL to use Skype, then I
apparently don't need Skype...

> Skype's
> sample rate is much higher than any cellphone's. It's why Skype is

only
> recommended for broadband customers.


I realize that, but sample rate only affects frequency response (tonal
quality), which arguably isn't that important for a phone call,
especially when calling non-Skype users on a traditional phone with a
bandwidth of about 3000Hz.
No, it's the echoing, latency, and random moments of silence that bug me
(as well as how much bandwidth it hogs when in use.) Sure, my GSM phone
uses a lower sample rate, but it manages to make an acceptable quality
call in 9.6k of bandwidth. Skype can't do that with 256k! In addition,
other softphone software solutions allow you to change codecs to conserve
bandwidth or increase quaility. (Some even use the GSM codec and will
work with dial-up!) For wanting to "connect the world" Skype has left out
a considerable chunk of that world- the 5 billion out of 6 without
broadband!

> Maybe you need better earphones or speakers, though....


I have a pretty decent USB phone I bought for trying Skype out during the
free trial.
Again, as a proof of concept it's a fascinating piece of work. As a
"geek toy" it's a hoot, but as a replacement for any type of "real"
telephony, either landline or cellular? Hardly...

Either way, I'm happy you enjoy Skype and it works well for you. I'll
let you get in last word if you want- we've already taken this too far OT
for alt.cellular...



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Old 10-05-2006, 01:45 PM #13
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In article <452518c8$0$19627$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, Todd Allcock wrote:

>> No, sounds like YOU need to change ISPs with better bandwidth.

>
> If I need more than 384k up/ 1.5m down DSL to use Skype, then I
> apparently don't need Skype...


384K is generally the minimum needed for *video*. *audio* should require
a lot less than 384K. In fact, a voice T-1 is divided into 24 individual
lines (well, can be used for *up to* 24 voice lines). Each line only carries
64K of bandwidth. So unless the ISP really sucks, bandwidth should not be
an issue.

Skype's OK. I prefer services and products that conform to VoIP standards
like SIP.


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Old 10-05-2006, 01:57 PM #14
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:452518c8$0
$19627$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> No, it's the echoing, latency, and random moments of silence that bug

me
> (as well as how much bandwidth it hogs when in use.)


Something is wrong with your internet connection. That's not experienced
here, unless one is connected to some third world users who has no
reasonable broadband service.

Are you on AOHell as your header suggests? I can understand on their
overloaded POPs why Skype doesn't function, properly. That would make
the service just suck and make me bitter, too. Again, I suggest you do
something for yourself about broadband service, not blame it on something
that's working great for 7,195,248 other Skype users online as I type
this. I can see why an AOHell customer would complain about Skype using
his tiny slice of bandwidth. Even with live video, either on the desktop
or through wifi out on the waterfront on the other end of my lawn, Skype
doesn't use up enough bandwidth on a 4Mbps cable broadband to be
measurable....even when Skype is using me to relay connection data for 6
other users through my system, which it does to everyone. My Skype is
connected to:
Skype.exe:3812 TCP melvin_schultz:2650 host-220-62-230-
24.midco.net:36296 ESTABLISHED
all day, today. The VoIP doesn't go through this guy's computer. It's
just relaying my contact information and any call data I'm sending out.
The connections are all direct, either my computer to my contact or my
computer to a Skype Out server. Sometimes it relays through me,
sometimes not like today. This would be objectionable on AOHell, I'm
sure, where every byte counts.

Calling on Skype Out to my Cellphone and listening to the delay on my own
voice, through Skype's delay as well as the CDMA lag in the digital
toyphone, I'd say it's 200ms, something like that. Probably a fourth of
that is the CDMA's fault. As it's full duplex and Skype has software
cancelling any echos picked up by the mic on the other end, I don't
remember hearing the "echo" you refer to. I'm also using the new Voxlib
for Skype remote control client (www.voxlib.com), which is free at the
moment. It's from Canada, not Skype. It lets me run Skype by remote
control from my cellphone, without having to carry the laptop with me or
rely on wifi hotspots to make Skype calls. It runs continuously. Calls
into my Skype, either from Skype In from the landlines or Skype-to-Skype
calls from friends across the planet for free, are forwarded by Voxlib to
my cellphone (Skype does this without Voxlib as part of Skype In). What
Skype IN doesn't do is allow me to go the other way, conferencing my
cellphone calling Skype In to other Skypers or Skype Out
landline/cellphones MUCH cheaper than calling them on the cellphone
across country borders. Calls to Japanese phones cost 2.1c/min....NOT
$3.50/min on cellular. You don't have to talk long to appreciate Skype
and Voxlib..(c; Calling Japan from the cell to a Skype'd computer, of
course, only costs me airtime unless it's free N/W on the cell. Voxlib
lets me know which of my contacts are online by simply reading it to me
on my cell. Voxlib is also way cool...(c;

I think YOUR problem with ANY VoIP will be AOHell....You need a real
broadband company....



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Old 10-05-2006, 05:26 PM #15
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"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
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> Skype's OK. I prefer services and products that conform to VoIP standards
> like SIP.
>


Which ones, specifically, and at what cost?



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