Ban ALL Talking on Transit!

If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!

Why discriminate against phones?

I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids
talking at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?

Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing
their leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.

What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really are!

After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good for them.


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[email protected] wrote:
> If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!
>
> Why discriminate against phones?

I know you're only kidding friend, BUT

I can just picture them trying to enforce such a silly law, nevermind
how the ACLU would be all over them.

Make no mistake freedown of speech is very important to me as I'm sure
it is to others






> I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids
> talking at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?
>
>
Oh they must have some fun dinners, he must be a fun guy

Some years back my wife's job forbid talking except of course when it
was about the work. You're going to tell women they can't talk good
luck on that one.

Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing
> their leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.

Wait the NY Post & NY Daily News are not leftist, they endorsed Bush



> What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really are!
>
> After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
> abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good for them.

Oh yeah let them raise rent as much as they want, bad enough with all
this new building in Brooklyn bringing up property values and TAXES

Yeah thats right you hit a nerve..................



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[email protected] wrote:
> If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!
>
> Why discriminate against phones?
>
> I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids
> talking at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?
>
> Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing
> their leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.
>
> What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really are!
>
> After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
> abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good for them.

The problem with cell phones in public period has not been that people
are talking on them, but that they frequently and inadvertently yell
into them without realizing it. I personally never found it to be too
big a deal on the bus or train, but I can see where it might be a
problem in some places. Boom boxes, which are much more annoying, are
still common even after being banned.

Bolwerk wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!
>>
>> Why discriminate against phones?
>>
>> I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids talking
>> at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?
>>
>> Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing their
>> leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.
>>
>> What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really are!
>>
>> After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
>> abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good for
>> them.
>
>
> The problem with cell phones in public period has not been that people
> are talking on them, but that they frequently and inadvertently yell
> into them without realizing it. I personally never found it to be too
> big a deal on the bus or train, but I can see where it might be a
> problem in some places. Boom boxes, which are much more annoying, are
> still common even after being banned.

Bless you for saying that, only another problem is these jerks who blast
their car stereos at all hours. Some of the conversations are very often
things one can do without hearing. i.e. one day in Rite-Aid:
"When you know I have to see my old man in jail" etc


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VINCE wrote:
> Bolwerk wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!
>>>
>>> Why discriminate against phones?
>>>
>>> I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids talking
>>> at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?
>>>
>>> Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing their
>>> leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.
>>>
>>> What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really are!
>>>
>>> After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
>>> abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good
>>> for them.
>>
>>
>> The problem with cell phones in public period has not been that people
>> are talking on them, but that they frequently and inadvertently yell
>> into them without realizing it. I personally never found it to be too
>> big a deal on the bus or train, but I can see where it might be a
>> problem in some places. Boom boxes, which are much more annoying, are
>> still common even after being banned.
>
> Bless you for saying that, only another problem is these jerks who blast
> their car stereos at all hours. Some of the conversations are very often
> things one can do without hearing. i.e. one day in Rite-Aid:
> "When you know I have to see my old man in jail" etc

I don't see why cell phone manufacturers don't catch on to this problem
more. It seems to me more sensitive microphones in the cell phones
might do the trick.

Cell phones are still new to society though, so perhaps we haven't
adjusted to using them by speaking at a normal volume.

(Also, I have to admit it can be annoying and unintuitive to hear a
one-way conversion. That's why we notice so much when we see people
walking down the street talking and don't see an earpiece. It used to be
that only crazy people would look that way, and now sane people do too.)

Bolwerk wrote:

> VINCE wrote:
>
>> Bolwerk wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!
>>>>
>>>> Why discriminate against phones?
>>>>
>>>> I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids
>>>> talking at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?
>>>>
>>>> Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing their
>>>> leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.
>>>>
>>>> What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really
>>>> are!
>>>>
>>>> After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
>>>> abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good
>>>> for them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem with cell phones in public period has not been that
>>> people are talking on them, but that they frequently and
>>> inadvertently yell into them without realizing it. I personally
>>> never found it to be too big a deal on the bus or train, but I can
>>> see where it might be a problem in some places. Boom boxes, which
>>> are much more annoying, are still common even after being banned.
>>
>>
>> Bless you for saying that, only another problem is these jerks who
>> blast their car stereos at all hours. Some of the conversations are
>> very often things one can do without hearing. i.e. one day in Rite-Aid:
>> "When you know I have to see my old man in jail" etc
>
>
> I don't see why cell phone manufacturers don't catch on to this problem
> more. It seems to me more sensitive microphones in the cell phones
> might do the trick.
>
> Cell phones are still new to society though, so perhaps we haven't
> adjusted to using them by speaking at a normal volume.

OH PLEASEEEEEEE they been around since the late 1980s true its only been
maybe the last ten years that they have taken SUCH hold of our lives.
Long enough anyway/




> (Also, I have to admit it can be annoying and unintuitive to hear a
> one-way conversion. That's why we notice so much when we see people
> walking down the street talking and don't see an earpiece. It used to be
> that only crazy people would look that way, and now sane people do too.)

I agree on that one...............
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VINCE wrote:
> Bolwerk wrote:
>
>> VINCE wrote:
>>
>>> Bolwerk wrote:
>> Cell phones are still new to society though, so perhaps we haven't
>> adjusted to using them by speaking at a normal volume.
>
> OH PLEASEEEEEEE they been around since the late 1980s true its only been
> maybe the last ten years that they have taken SUCH hold of our lives.
> Long enough anyway/

It's only been in the past five years that almost everybody, no matter
what, has one. Certainly almost anyone under 40.

A few years ago, they were still too expensive to be used frequently,
even if they were widespread. Now every middle schooler has one.

Bolwerk wrote:


> I don't see why cell phone manufacturers don't catch on to this problem
> more. It seems to me more sensitive microphones in the cell phones
> might do the trick.
>
> Cell phones are still new to society though, so perhaps we haven't
> adjusted to using them by speaking at a normal volume.

Part of the problem is lack of feedback of the user's own voice in the
speaker of the cell phone. On a land line phone the user hears his own
voice in the speaker. This causes people to speak louder on a cell phone
than on a land line phone.

> (Also, I have to admit it can be annoying and unintuitive to hear a
> one-way conversion. That's why we notice so much when we see people
> walking down the street talking and don't see an earpiece. It used to be
> that only crazy people would look that way, and now sane people do too.)

If you work in an open office you hear one side of your co-workers'
phone conversations all day long. This doesn't seem to bother people as
much as cell phone conversations.

John Mara

*+-I don't see why cell phone manufacturers don't catch on to this problem
*+-more. It seems to me more sensitive microphones in the cell phones
*+-might do the trick.

You may have something. That may be a regional thing. Folks in cars might
also have loud radios and need less sensitive phones. But phones do have
volume controls! But how many really know how to use them?

But there IS an intolerance issue.

I mean there was a girl on the bus who was barely audible and this
woman three seats away was giving her looks. At the point my bus
crossed the Flushing River, I called my club meeting to say I was on
my way and she gave me a strange look, too.

A while back I mentioned my professor in Calcutta
shutting out all the bus noise while he was a student.

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Per John Mara:
>If you work in an open office you hear one side of your co-workers'
>phone conversations all day long. This doesn't seem to bother people as
>much as cell phone conversations.

I find extended phone conversations in a loud voice tb a significant
productivity hit in an office environment. I once told a decision maker that
moving me from a quiet place to another place would diminish my productivity by
25-30 percent. Some people got really bent out of shape over that, but I'll
stand by it - and raise it to 33%, if anything.

Maybe my powers of concentration are below-average or I'm just nosey by nature,
but when somebody's yakking nearby every sentence runs through my mind - whether
I want it to or not. When I was working in an environment where 2/3 of the
people spoke Mandarin, Hindi, or Urdu the difference was appreciable:
conversations in a language I didn't understand just faded into the background
noise.
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Bolwerk wrote:

> VINCE wrote:
>
>> Bolwerk wrote:
>>
>>> VINCE wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bolwerk wrote:
>>>
>>> Cell phones are still new to society though, so perhaps we haven't
>>> adjusted to using them by speaking at a normal volume.
>>
>>
>> OH PLEASEEEEEEE they been around since the late 1980s true its only
>> been maybe the last ten years that they have taken SUCH hold of our
>> lives.
>> Long enough anyway/
>
>
> It's only been in the past five years that almost everybody, no matter
> what, has one. Certainly almost anyone under 40.
>
> A few years ago, they were still too expensive to be used frequently,
> even if they were widespread. Now every middle schooler has one.

I don't have one can't afford it, I would like to of course

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Bolwerk wrote:

> Boom boxes, which are much more annoying, are
> still common even after being banned.

Where?

Bolwerk wrote:
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > If they don't tolerate cell phones, then everyone should be quiet!
> >
> > Why discriminate against phones?
> >
> > I have an uncle who is a military academy grad and he forbids
> > talking at his meal table, too. Why not the bus?
> >
> > Come to think about it, I don't want to see them flailing
> > their leftist rags about, so ban newspapers, too.
> >
> > What this proves is how BACKWARDS and INTOLERANT New Yorkers really are!
> >
> > After all, they set up rent control only after the rest of the country
> > abolished it. When the rest of the country had it, it was not good for them.
>
> The problem with cell phones in public period has not been that people
> are talking on them, but that they frequently and inadvertently yell
> into them without realizing it. I personally never found it to be too
> big a deal on the bus or train, but I can see where it might be a
> problem in some places. Boom boxes, which are much more annoying, are
> still common even after being banned.

A Boom Box Ban?

Notan

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> Bolwerk wrote:
>
>> Boom boxes, which are much more annoying, are
>> still common even after being banned.
>
> Where?

On the subway.