GPS In SIM Card?

I just saw this assertion:
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Latest thing in the UK is to have GPS on your SIM Card of your cell phone.
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I'm guessing this is available in the USA too.

Would it be something where I'd get a third-party SIM card and then convince my
carrier (tMob) to load my account info into it so it would work on their system?

Any special cell phone required?
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"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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>I just saw this assertion:
> -----------------------------------------
> Latest thing in the UK is to have GPS on your SIM Card of your cell phone.
> ----------------------------------------=
>
> I'm guessing this is available in the USA too.
>
> Would it be something where I'd get a third-party SIM card and then
> convince my
> carrier (tMob) to load my account info into it so it would work on their
> system?
>
> Any special cell phone required?
> --
> PeteCresswell


GPS on a sim card ? U mean Global Positioning Systems?


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Per "www.simcard.me.uk" <webmaster@(REMOVETHESPAM)tariff.me.uk>:
>GPS on a sim card ? U mean Global Positioning Systems?

Yes.
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At 07 Dec 2006 19:45:15 -0500 (PeteCresswell) wrote:
> I just saw this assertion:
> -----------------------------------------
> Latest thing in the UK is to have GPS on your SIM Card of your cell
> phone.
> ----------------------------------------=

I'm guessing that you or whoever made the assertion is misunderstanding it.

GPS receivers have become much smaller in recent years, but I doubt
they'd fit on a board the size of a SIM, nor would a phone not designed
for such a bea t be likely to read any data from said SIM. IIRC, a GPS
antenna itself is larger than a SIM.

Perhaps this is a confusion based on the current availability of
"location based" services now available from mobile phone operators?
Often incorrectly referred to as "GPS," mobile phone operators can
triangulate a phone's location based on it's distance from wireless towers,

usually for emergency ("911") use.

> I'm guessing this is available in the USA too.

Location-based services are available- emergency 911-location, some
carriers offer subscription services that display your family's phone's
positions on your phone, Verizon sells a trip navigation service (similar
to GPS navigation systems) etc.

> Would it be something where I'd get a third-party SIM card and then
> convince my carrier (tMob) to load my account info into it so it
> would work on their system?

Again, I doubt it has anything to do with the SIM per se, and, AFAIK, no
carrier allows the use of a "third-party" SIM of any type.

BTW, a Google search turned up nothing about a GPS built-into a SIM card.


> Any special cell phone required?

Many, if not all, modern phones are location-enabled, but they don't
generally let you use the data directly- the carriers use it for e911 or
subscription services. A few Windows-Mobile based phones have "real" GPS
receivers built-in, and many bluetooth phones can connect to bluetooth
GPS receivers (this is the method I use.)

And, if I recall a recent article in RCR News correctly, Nokia was
reportedly planning to make operator-location data available to users on
future phones (so programmers could design GPS-like software for them.)

"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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> Per "www.simcard.me.uk" <webmaster@(REMOVETHESPAM)tariff.me.uk>:
>>GPS on a sim card ? U mean Global Positioning Systems?
>
> Yes.
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> PeteCresswell


Theres no way there GPS on a sim card.

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There are many GPS enabled phones that use GPS and not triangulation (well
my carrier uses a combination of both if gps information is unavailable due
to being indoors, etc.) but as far as the SIM card, it is ONLY used to store
account information and a small portion of it is dedicated to phone memory
(contacts etc) nothing to do with GPS though.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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> At 07 Dec 2006 19:45:15 -0500 (PeteCresswell) wrote:
>> I just saw this assertion:
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Latest thing in the UK is to have GPS on your SIM Card of your cell
>> phone.
>> ----------------------------------------=
>
> I'm guessing that you or whoever made the assertion is misunderstanding
> it.
>
> GPS receivers have become much smaller in recent years, but I doubt
> they'd fit on a board the size of a SIM, nor would a phone not designed
> for such a bea t be likely to read any data from said SIM. IIRC, a GPS
> antenna itself is larger than a SIM.
>
> Perhaps this is a confusion based on the current availability of
> "location based" services now available from mobile phone operators?
> Often incorrectly referred to as "GPS," mobile phone operators can
> triangulate a phone's location based on it's distance from wireless
> towers,
>
> usually for emergency ("911") use.
>
>> I'm guessing this is available in the USA too.
>
> Location-based services are available- emergency 911-location, some
> carriers offer subscription services that display your family's phone's
> positions on your phone, Verizon sells a trip navigation service (similar
> to GPS navigation systems) etc.
>
>> Would it be something where I'd get a third-party SIM card and then
>> convince my carrier (tMob) to load my account info into it so it
>> would work on their system?
>
> Again, I doubt it has anything to do with the SIM per se, and, AFAIK, no
> carrier allows the use of a "third-party" SIM of any type.
>
> BTW, a Google search turned up nothing about a GPS built-into a SIM card.
>
>
>> Any special cell phone required?
>
> Many, if not all, modern phones are location-enabled, but they don't
> generally let you use the data directly- the carriers use it for e911 or
> subscription services. A few Windows-Mobile based phones have "real" GPS
> receivers built-in, and many bluetooth phones can connect to bluetooth
> GPS receivers (this is the method I use.)
>
> And, if I recall a recent article in RCR News correctly, Nokia was
> reportedly planning to make operator-location data available to users on
> future phones (so programmers could design GPS-like software for them.)
>