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Old 04-28-2007, 02:10 PM #1
El Demon
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The best camera phone you can get???



Hi,

just joined this site. (i from the UK)

I am coming to the end of my current contract in june and am starting
to wonder which phone i should get next.

I am on 3g at the mo and have been for 3 years, so they offer me quite
good deals. so would ideally like to stay with them but i'm not that
bothered.

I am preferably looking for a REALLY good camera phone. Is there one
better than the 5mp nokia 95? i do like nokias but the menus are always
slow and buggy. Surely Sony and samsung are going to try and at least
match the 5mp camera arent they?

can anyone help?




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Old 04-28-2007, 08:05 PM #2
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El Demon <El.Demon.797740@mobile-forum.co.uk> wrote in news:El.Demon.797740
@mobile-forum.co.uk:

> I am preferably looking for a REALLY good camera phone. Is there one
> better than the 5mp nokia 95? i do like nokias but the menus are always
> slow and buggy. Surely Sony and samsung are going to try and at least
> match the 5mp camera arent they?
>
>


Camera phones suck in comparison to real cameras with real lenses. That
tiny pinhole lens will never have good resolution no matter how many pixel
games they play. The phone cameras are akin to the old Kodak
Brownies...handy basic cameras with no features for quick photos when your
real camera isn't available.

Of course, the other phone camera scam is when the cell carriers disable
features, such as being able to move the picture, YOURSELF, over to the
memory card so you can plug it into the computer, YOURSELF, and bypass the
carrier's Photo Money Machine with this emailing/downloading-over-our-
system nonsense. Real cameras don't have these hobbled problems. They
have to fight competitors for customers.

My advise...buy the best damned real camera you can afford. I quit with
still cameras when I got my JVC 30GB hard drive video camera. It's a
fantastic still or movie camera with amazing storage capacity that plugs
into anyone's USB port Windows simply treats as another portable hard
drive...no funny business.

Larry
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:08 PM #3
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In article <Xns9920D6DC85C46noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:

> My advise...buy the best damned real camera you can afford.


Yup. A low-end 2-megapixel camera can now be bought for well
under $100. A camera with much better resolution can be bought for
$100-$300.


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Old 04-29-2007, 09:15 AM #4
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Steven J. Sobol;354170 Wrote:
> In article Xns9920D6DC85C46noonehomecom@208.49.80.253, Larry wrote:
> -
> My advise...buy the best damned real camera you can afford. -
>
> Yup. A low-end 2-megapixel camera can now be bought for well
> under $100. A camera with much better resolution can be bought for
> $100-$300.
>
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl **
> Linux/*BSD/Windows
> Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
>
> It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living
> room.




The thing is i allways have my phone on me, and carrying a camera too
would be a pain. so even tho the camrea-phones aren't all that, i like
the fact i can take simple photos and not have to carry 2 devices.




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Old 04-29-2007, 12:30 PM #5
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"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnf37s2p.sf1.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> In article <Xns9920D6DC85C46noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
>
>> My advise...buy the best damned real camera you can afford.

>
> Yup. A low-end 2-megapixel camera can now be bought for well
> under $100. A camera with much better resolution can be bought for
> $100-$300.
>
>


I did much better than that...as a thrift shop dumpster diver...(c;

I got a Mustek MDC3500 for $10, box, manual, install CD and all!
http://www.amazon.com/Mustek-3500-Di.../dp/B00008KIWJ
Color LCD plus optical viewfinder. 4X zoom. Uses SD or MMC card

All of them have had problems with the battery compartment door catch
breaking off and mine was no exception. I built a little metal bracket
that's superglued to the door and runs up the side of the camera to the
lanyard holes to make a catch for it. Works great....especially for $10...
(c; I'm not afraid to leave a $10 camera in the car. Even has a fairly
good flash and macrophoto setting. I paid more for the 2GB SD card, the
biggest memory it supports, than I did for the cam...(c;

Larry
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:15 PM #6
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At 29 Apr 2007 15:15:15 +0100 El Demon wrote:

> The thing is i allways have my phone on me, and carrying a camera too
> would be a pain. so even tho the camrea-phones aren't all that, i like
> the fact i can take simple photos and not have to carry 2 devices.


I agree- however, I think the point everyone is making is that the MP
rating of the phone camera isn't the be-all end-all. Most phone cameras
have crummy plastic lenses and no optical zoom, so the pictures won't
look any clearer or better in a 5-MP file size than they will in a 2MP or
3MP.

If the phone you want has a 5MP camera, great, but I wouldn't choose
phone A over phone B just because it has more MPs. Take a picture in the
store with the phone you are interested in buying and see if it takes a
decent pic- don't worry about the MPs.

My old Nokia 3650 takes a better looking (less "grainy") picture at VGA
resolution (0.3MP) than my HTC Wizard's 1.3MP camera does. The Nokia,
apparently, has a better lens or sensor despite having fewer pixels.

I find either one, however, acceptable for my uses- taking a quick low-
res "Polaroid" pic when I don't have a real camera with me.


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Old 04-29-2007, 03:16 PM #7
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In article <El.Demon.7a9080@mobile-forum.co.uk>, El Demon wrote:
>
> The thing is i allways have my phone on me, and carrying a camera too
> would be a pain. so even tho the camrea-phones aren't all that, i like
> the fact i can take simple photos and not have to carry 2 devices.


I still say you're better off getting a camera with a small
form-factor. Camera phones are generally crap... Not to mention that
having the camera prevents you from taking your phone into certain
places.



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