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    Larry
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    "ShakalaPoodle" <u34268@uwe> wrote in news:724bcae01e414@uwe:

    > and various other consideration.


    Don't forget to include an unlimited airtime cellular phone with free LD
    for every one of your family members into the contract. It costs them
    nothing, so don't feel a bit guilty. This adds $120/phone/month to your
    side of the bargain if you had to pay for it. Make sure it included the
    phones of your choice. Also, you might bargain for unlimited data
    service on some aircards for your laptop computers, too! This costs them
    nothing, also. All phone will have no airtime limits or other charges,
    of course.

    I have a friend who not only cleared his own land, but erected a 500'
    commercial radio tower and nice air conditioned concrete building on his
    little farm. Not only are 3 cellular/PCS companies buying tower space on
    his monster, but his county government and state police rent tower space
    and facilities from him. When the county government got involved, they
    applied for and got a Federal grant to install a 35KW UPS into the
    building's electrical system and a hot-start 75KW diesel generator at no
    cost to my friend! The Feds want the cellphone system to work in
    emergencies, too. Some tower upgrades to make the tower hurricane safe
    to 250 MPH wind loading was also added.

    He has 180 acres on a little sand hill they all like. Last time I talked
    to him, about 2 months ago, he was in negotiation with the tower company
    to erect another 500' tower on the other end of his long property because
    the first tower was near its loading capacity. He gave up truck farming.
    Antenna farming is MUCH more profitable. Screw cellular! PUT IT UP
    YOURSELF and rent space on it to anyone who wants to pay for it! It's a
    great business to be in....

    http://www.gritztowers.com/
    http://dmoz.org/Business/Telecommuni...,_Installation,
    _and_Maintenance/Towers/

    Screw just GIVING it to them for a pittance.

    Larry
    --
    Grade School Physics Factoid:
    A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
    skilled demolition.



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    Re: rent discount on cell tower lease

    It sounds as if you are dealing with a cell tower company. Most
    wireless carriers do not discount the rent for land clearing- its
    assumed to be part of the lease unless you have requested that they
    use a part of your land for the cell tower when there is already a
    cleared location that will work for them.

    Regarding getting unlimited cell time phones- that never happens
    anymore. The wireless carriers do not give air time- and the tower
    companies can't. They would prefer to simply increase the lease rate
    to accomodate you.

    The problem with searching for and using comparable lease rates is
    that it assumes that those people who negotiated the relied upon lease
    rates actually knew what they were doing when the negotiated their
    lease. What if they simply guessed or took the offer from the
    wireless carrier? What if they felt that they had done a great job
    negotiating by getting a $100/mo increase- when in reality the site
    was worth an additional $400/mo?

    The value of a cell tower lease is based upon the difficulty for the
    wireless carrier or tower company in finding another suitable
    location. Whether they can find another location is dependant upon
    whether the other parcels in their search area work for them or
    not.

    I would not sign a lease which placed any responsibility on you for
    the increased taxes due to their improvements.



    On May 17, 1:16 am, "ShakalaPoodle" <u34268@uwe> wrote:
    > We have been approached for acell towerlease. The price they have offered
    > is $1,200 for the first 5 yrs then $1,500 after. Their justification for the
    > discount over the first 5 yrs is because they said they would clear all of
    > the property (apx 6 or 7 acres wooded) and put it in pasture.
    >
    > I am suspecting $18,000 would be excessive for the cost of getting the land
    > cleared and have suggested that we get an estimate from an individual
    > contractor for the cost of clearing the land before negotiating.
    >
    > Is it standard to reduce the rent to such an extent on an initial period to
    > cover such expenses?
    >
    > Also so far we have not been able to find prices for leases on other cell
    > towers in the area. The contracts we have located all state to the extent
    > "for $1.00 and various other consideration.
    >
    > My other question is can it be built into the lease to take into
    > consideration any increases to property taxes inclucing any that are
    > retroactive at the expense of the company?
    >
    > Oh the property is located in the West part of Knox County Tennessee in a
    > high growth area where land is currently selling at $10,000 per acre and
    > subdivision homes in the $350,000 price range currently being built.






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